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Giant Bombcast 12-14-2010

We match three with PopCap's own Jeff Green, who joins us for this week's discussions of adult-themed Bejeweled, our Doritos Game of the Year, Andy Serkis' one-man show, inventing ancient artifacts for Uncharted 3, and much more!

The Giant Bombcast is the world's most beloved video game podcast, and now it's available in video form.

Dec. 14 2010

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@whitesox: Opinions exist, I accept this. I also understand that they dedicate a lot of their time to reading and researching the industry, doing the math, and forming their opinions, this I don't doubt. It's the blatent pandering I could live without - it's disappointing behaviour from a group I would otherwise respect.
 
@Godot: I didn't mention 4/5 for any other reason but to point out that Jeff reviewed it positively. You certainly wouldn't have guessed that by listening to the segment. It's also important to remember that only 1 of the 4 people taking part in that discussion (Green is exempt) has actually played the effing game. You would think that Brad being so impressed with Minerva, that he might put aside some time to play the main game, especially with GotY deliberations... A professional heck no to that idea.
 
Again. Maybe they should have just called it Infinite instead of being honest with it being a sequel.
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@whitesox: Hey, I'm all for guest appearances.  That's great.  Love to see some people who are more involved in the industry and can offer a different perspective.  But I'm not about to pretend I have some attachment to the Giantbomb's own friends to the point of going "F-YEAH!"   The same thing with Johnny V (I'm not going to bother trying to spell his last name.)  Like... yeah, he's kinda funny when he shows up, but it's not like I'm about to fist-pump when he shows up.   
 
I mean if we're talking about actual creative talent like the art directors, designers, etc., sure I may be more excited, but that's about it.  
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@zoner: He was fluctuating between a robot voice, a Hanar voice, and the RedLetterMedia guy, yeah.
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YAY! More Jeff Green! Man I miss that guy.
 
I'm glad to hear that they are going to drop that annoying Nintendo segment at the end next year. I always want to fast forward past it because they are never fun to listen to, but I always feel like I might miss something if I do.

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@Shaanyboi: 
To be honest, I agree with the sentiment that the community as a whole overreacts to a bunch of stuff.  I believe it works itself up in to a frenzy, and it rolls from there.
 
Do a few people overreact? Sure.  Is everyone in the comments going insane over Jeff Green (I'm a fan of the guy, don't get me wrong.  Glad he made it onto the bombcast.) are dancing in their living rooms?  I have a hard time believing that.
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@sofacitysweetheart:  They've all played the game, just not to completion.
 
Look; you've probably got to the last level in the multiplayer, bought all the DLC packs. You seem like an independent person with strong opinions. I don't get why you need validation from Jeff, Ryan, Brad and Vinny, that THEY need to like it, and if they say otherwise, they're lying, or biased, or pandering to their userbase. Why else would they decry such a brilliant game? It can't be as simple as them not thinking it's not so hot anymore half a year on.
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Under the convoluted rules of the Giant Bomb Senate, a four vote majority is required to break a filibuster.

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I just don't know if a developer or publisher owned podcast can work when there is stiff competition from unbiased parties like Giant Bomb.

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@DeadDorf:  Irrational Interviews says hi.
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Black Dragon!

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@whitesox: Well yeah, I think that them jumping up and down in-front of their computers is an exaggeration (I'd hope...).  But I mean even remember that Mailbag video where Johnny V shows up, and every other comment was "F*** YEAH JOHNNY V!"  Like... what?   
 
It's creepy.  It really just comes off as creepy that these people have this kinda weird enthusiasm for these kinda random people....  It's like they're acting that they're friends with these people too and... they're not.  lol
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@Shaanyboi: 
Disagree.  Firstly, the community is working itself in into a frenzy.  The analogy of people dancing and jumping out of enthusiasm might have been a stretch, but the main point was that not everyone is as enthusiastic as they let on.
 
Secondly, I wouldn't call it creepy.  It's just like when you go to a sporting event, concert, political rally, etc.  Thousands of people filing into an enclosed space just to see a few people. 
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@Shaanyboi: Isn't it weird that you ... find the need... to critique random people... on a website? We're not your... friends or anything... and... it's very creepy.   
 
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@gizmo88: Never heard of it. I'm sure it's fine, but when competing for people's game-related listening time...
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what? No...

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@Milkman said:
" WHAT? NO! "
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Longcast!

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Even the fake reverse-talk at the end cracked me up. I'm such a sucker for voice modulation

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haha, how crazy is it that there was a Just Sing dsi game both times Jeff Green was on

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@KuribosShoe: Black Ops received as much "writing off" as most other military shooters have on the site, and I don't recall Jeff crediting it so much for its originality as much as he thought the game was exciting, and the muliplayer maps were pretty good. From the sound of his review, he kinda hated everything else. Not sure what that has to do with anything :/
 
@Godot said:

" @sofacitysweetheart:  They've all played the game, just not to completion.  Look; you've probably got to the last level in the multiplayer, bought all the DLC packs. You seem like an independent person with strong opinions. I don't get why you need validation from Jeff, Ryan, Brad and Vinny, that THEY need to like it, and if they say otherwise, they're lying, or biased, or pandering to their userbase. Why else would they decry such a brilliant game? It can't be as simple as them not thinking it's not so hot anymore half a year on. "

Tell me, how were you able to infer that I'm forcing people to like a game? I'd be all in favour of these opinions if they were even half qualified to pass them. I'm not even trying to decree quality of the game like so many mini-Jeffs here responding to me (such as yourself). I just feel like kind of a fool for expecting more of the GB crew than to sit around mindlessly gratifying their audience's opinion. It's disappointing - that's all.
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I think it's weird that whenever anyone talks about Game of the Year, whether its here or on any other site, that noone mentions Super Street Fighter IV on their list. I know it's just sort of an update to 2009's Street IV, but still: It's fighting game perfection.

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.taerg ytterp saw tahT
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i fucking hated  Bayonetta baught it on sale, waste of moeny too button masshy and automated and shit story.

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@DarkbeatDK: It's on my personal list, I'd wager it'll be on Jeff's too.  Not enough universal appeal though, sadly.
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CLICKS TO CHRIST!! 

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@sofacitysweetheart said:
" @KuribosShoe: Black Ops received as much "writing off" as most other military shooters have on the site, and I don't recall Jeff crediting it so much for its originality as much as he thought the game was exciting, and the muliplayer maps were pretty good. From the sound of his review, he kinda hated everything else. Not sure what that has to do with anything :/
 
@Godot said:

" @sofacitysweetheart:  They've all played the game, just not to completion.  Look; you've probably got to the last level in the multiplayer, bought all the DLC packs. You seem like an independent person with strong opinions. I don't get why you need validation from Jeff, Ryan, Brad and Vinny, that THEY need to like it, and if they say otherwise, they're lying, or biased, or pandering to their userbase. Why else would they decry such a brilliant game? It can't be as simple as them not thinking it's not so hot anymore half a year on. "

Tell me, how were you able to infer that I'm forcing people to like a game? I'd be all in favour of these opinions if they were even half qualified to pass them. I'm not even trying to decree quality of the game like so many mini-Jeffs here responding to me (such as yourself). I just feel like kind of a fool for expecting more of the GB crew than to sit around mindlessly gratifying their audience's opinion. It's disappointing - that's all. "
Who do you believe is half-qualified (or better yet fully qualified) to pass these opinions?
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@ApolloBob said:
" @sofacitysweetheart said:
" @KuribosShoe: Black Ops received as much "writing off" as most other military shooters have on the site, and I don't recall Jeff crediting it so much for its originality as much as he thought the game was exciting, and the muliplayer maps were pretty good. From the sound of his review, he kinda hated everything else. Not sure what that has to do with anything :/
 
@Godot said:

" @sofacitysweetheart:  They've all played the game, just not to completion.  Look; you've probably got to the last level in the multiplayer, bought all the DLC packs. You seem like an independent person with strong opinions. I don't get why you need validation from Jeff, Ryan, Brad and Vinny, that THEY need to like it, and if they say otherwise, they're lying, or biased, or pandering to their userbase. Why else would they decry such a brilliant game? It can't be as simple as them not thinking it's not so hot anymore half a year on. "

Tell me, how were you able to infer that I'm forcing people to like a game? I'd be all in favour of these opinions if they were even half qualified to pass them. I'm not even trying to decree quality of the game like so many mini-Jeffs here responding to me (such as yourself). I just feel like kind of a fool for expecting more of the GB crew than to sit around mindlessly gratifying their audience's opinion. It's disappointing - that's all. "
Who do you believe is half-qualified (or better yet fully qualified) to pass these opinions? "
Sigh :/. People who have played the game? I dunno. Crazy. I know.
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Jeff Gerstmann's WiiWare/DSiWare sounds like Phillip Seymour-Hoffman for some reason. o.o;

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Jeff Green's voice makes me think I'm listening to Al Franken at times. 
 
Not that I'm complaining about that.

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Is Jeff Bridges in this podcast?

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@sofacitysweetheart said:
" It's a shame you guys are so biased in your dislike you BioShock 2. I guess if they called it BioShock Infinite, it would have been taked about more highly... "
It was a decent game. I never had a negative opinion of it going in and, for the large part, enjoyed it. That being said, I don't see it as game of the year overall. For you personally it may well be, good on you for getting that much out of it.
 
Your opinion about BioShock 2, or my opinion, or theirs, are simply opinions. I'm no more biased against it than you are for it. Same applies to them.
 
An aside, I can relate for another reason - Demons' Souls. That game was amazing, but widely dismissed or reviewed as too difficult or clunky or even broken. In the end, it was my number 2, right behind Batman:AA which was more polished and had a much better story. But that is my opinion, not theirs. I don't think anyone even put that in their top 10 last year (maybe Vinny or Drew...I can't recall). At least more of them have played Bioshock 2, so that will be mentioned for something.
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How can you not remember the nuke at the end of [PROTOTYPE]?  *sigh*

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@Jolt92 said:

" Man fucking Jeff Green should be permanent. "

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PODCAST OF THE YEAR!!!

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got all deadly premonition at the end!

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Was Jeff supposed to be an elcor at the end there?

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I'm sure that somebody has mentioned this, but in regards to Jeff considering Devil May Cry a button masher (as opposed to Bayonetta), I'd just like to point out that the combos in those games are all rhythm-based, so if you're mashing buttons then you're doing the same combo over and over again.
 
Maybe he meant something else and I'm just confused.

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@GioVANNI said:
"Was Jeff supposed to be an elcor at the end there? "
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@DoctorWelch said:
" So wait, is this the normal on and then game of the year is happening periodically over the next week or something, or how is that working out. Oh yeah, and you guys need to do one of those lists of things what you want for Christmas other than video games, I actually really enjoyed them. "
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@RVonE said:
" @GioVANNI said:
"Was Jeff supposed to be an elcor at the end there? "
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My favorite podcast since...the last Jeff Green one.

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@Shaanyboi said:
" Boy...  There sure are a lot of people who seem to give a shit about Jeff Green as if he's a fucking celebrity...  No offense to the guy. 
 
Gotta love the GiantBomb community...  "SWEET!  New bombcast featuring (insert name of friend of the Giantbomb staff who none of you actually know)?!?!?!   F-YEAH!!!" "
Jeff Greens a legend, probably the best guest they could get outside of J Allard, or Nolan North.
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that was one of the best bombcasts

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That was an amazing podcast. GOTY deliberations will top it though!

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What on earth is so special about Van Cleef?

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Please do not change WiiWare and DsiWare!!!!!! Please! Is this retaliation for our rejection of QOTW? Don't be like that baby, you know it ain't like that.

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Keep the Nintendo download section please! Alternatively, you could just post that list that you receive on the site for us to read.

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Hearing the voice actor for the Elcor in Mass Effect 1 and 2 read the Nintendo stuff was great.

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Jeff Green, Awesome Nintendo downloadable segment, and I got my question read. 
BEST PODCAST EVER!