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Giant Bombcast 581: Six on the Face

MK11 continues to dominate the office, but we also mix in Forager, the latest spate of video game labor issues, Mario styli, cartridge fetishism, controller evolution, Steven Tyler's knife, and... that trailer.

The Giant Bombcast is the world's most beloved video game podcast, and now it's available in video form.

Apr. 30 2019

Posted by: Brad

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Edited By hassun

No audio version available?

Edit: My bad.

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No video version available?

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@hassun: You mean video? Audio is ready first, wait a bt for video.

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No fax version available?

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No Braille version available?

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i need to watchhh

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I'm surprised this^ wasn't the image they used.

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@tropesage

MOM! Get out! It's not what it looks like! GEEEETTT OUUUUTTTTTTT

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Ben's mic is a bit hot.

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Edited By hassun

@indrid said:

@hassun: You mean video? Audio is ready first, wait a bt for video.

Oh my bad, the greyed out camera/headphones symbol threw me off.

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Man, I really can't wait for the inevitable Mario Maker 2 Giant Bomb streams!

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When does the wax cylinder version go up?

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Edited By TheShrubber

Having everyone in the same room is different than everyone speaking at the same time.

PS: And now I'm freaking depressed post that labor talk lmfao

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Ben.. just.. chill.

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My favorite part right off the bat is how they're shouting at each other trying to watch the trailer. Brad asks to raise the volume because they couldn't hear over each other talking. ONLY for them to shout even louder because they couldn't hear themselves lol. It's like a sketch.

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The Nick Fury of the Sonic cinematic universe is Alex Kidd.

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@murtaug: is this another "loud" episode that I shouldn't listen to with headphones and keep a finger on the volume knob?

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Edited By chalkcharmer

Dear Giantbomb,

I love your site and I love my fellow subscribers...

Can you please come up with a normalized audio setting where all of your content is at the same levels compared to the rest of my computer? Right now, your content varies between on-level, muted, or blown out.

I've been a long time fan, and this is a long time problem. Can we please work to fix this?

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Any Valve Index talk on this bad boy?

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I'll see that Sonic movie as a joke.

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Go to 1:02:14 to skip MK11 discussion.

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Paramount pictures continues to be irrelevant

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Does anybody know if they had an Aftershow today?

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Also, reviewer Shaun Musgrave gave brief reviews of a bunch of those Boss Fight Books here and here.

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The Aftershow: Big Red Phone

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If only Jeff would accept the brands into his heart.

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No exasperated friend relaying a story second-hand version available?

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I can’t believe they did a cover of Wierd Al’s “Amish Paradise” for the Sonic movie trailer.

*Edit: like a minute after I typed the above they made that reference/joke on the podcast.

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For that one email looking for video game tell all books, there's one about Diablo: Stay Awhile and Listen.

I don't know whats up with the two different editions of the book though.

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I love episodes where Ben gets to go on and on about "crunch"

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Is the Bombcast supposed to default to non-premium audio? Every week I toggle to premium video but it doesn't stick.

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It was nice to hear some of the good stuff around MKII. It's certainly important to know about the useless timesinks, but i think that part of the conversation has been super dominant so far. It's nice to hear that the actual game is good. I hope the PC version won't get dismissed this time though. Them already falling behind updates compared to the console version worries me though.

Sonic looks like a nightmare, but i bet between the families, the fans & the 'ironic' viewers, it will do quite well.

I don't know why they even talk through that Sweeney proposal seriously as if it could be a reality and made in good faith. It was a eyecatching comeback that has no actual impact because it will never happen. Valve is not suddenly going to get rid of all their features to be able to run a similarly lean store with the same pro's & cons as their competitor offers. That would be pointless. It's like Microsoft saying that they would port all xbox exclusives to PS4 as long as Sony would enable crossplay so that friendgroups are not locked into buying the same console. That would be a PR win for Microsoft given that Sony can't actually defend themselves without coming away as the bad guy, but at the same time Microsoft knows the answer upfront already because it makes business sense. Epic Game Store is also not a store that has to host & serve tens of thouzands of games right now. That makes it come across to me as a mom & pop store wondering why the big chainstore has all these managers walking around & uses all those elaborate spreadsheets to keep the place running when they can just talk to eachother instead. How scalable is their approach if they were to become topdog in the PCmarket? Have they pledged to retain this 12% if they get as large & fortnite slows down? I would also have my doubts on how much of a good faith argument it is that Sweeney then does the 'I'm actually on your side, don't you see this!' move after selling this pipedream. But hey, i get it. A ton of annoying people are engaging him online in the name of being pro-consumer, so he says that despite buying out exclusive games he is also pro-consumer to get some breathing room.

Let him promise to stay true to that 12% in perpetuity. Show that it's about developers getting paid, instead of that being the best way to get the foot in the door. They had already identified that the customers would not look favorably on their agressive strategy, so they had to get their opening at the other side of the market, the game providers. How to do that? With Money! Which resource is not a concern right now? Money! Will that 12% (+influencer cut) still be important to Epic when they are the nr 1 place to be for PCgames or do they dial that number up again when the size of the audience & the influencer marketing is the main appeal to release on the store? Will critically acclaimed games like Assault Android Cactus get accepted in the future or will they keep spotlighting the big hitters instead? If Fortnite slows down, how will that impact the store?

Put an upward cap of 10% on the mandatory influencer cut so that indie games don't have to price eachother out of the variety streamer & youtube market for a chance of exposure. Or hey... maybe drop that idea all together? After all, in a perfect game market the best games should get highlighted, not the ones that give the best financial incentives (& make EGS games more financially beneficial to stream compared to games that are not on the EGS. + the games that don't have the best cuts for influencers.) Epic have identified that streamers drive their audience to buy certain games, so they have created a system that incentivizes the streamers to play the most profitable games that are available on their store. It makes sense, but it's pretty clear that this aspect is not part of this open utopia that Sweeney talks about and therefore rather not talks about at all. The Fortnite money gets used to keep this part of the deal not be a dealbreaker for the first 24 months, by paying influencers out of their own hand. After that period, your small indiegames (well, the ones that are allowed to be on the EGS to not crowd out the AAA-games) are going to have to share their revenue around and figure out how much money they have to give away to influencers to get a shot at being featured on their streams & videos. Not a great prospect for indiegames.

I'm loving this postman on postman interaction through the GB mail. For some reason, Australia always gets involved in that :D

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I watched all of the big video game people do a reaction on the sonic trailer and ... everyone laughed and liked jim carrey despite acting like they hated it.

The movie looks awesome. I can't wait to see more Jim Carrey.

If you haven't seen the show Kidding, I highly recommend it. Easily one of Carrey best roles.

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Damn it! I thought the thumbnail was for a live action Cid from Final Fantasy. Sadly, only Sonic...

This movie will not be good. But hopefully it's bad enough to be enjoyable.

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Xbox 10 is just binary for Xbox 2, so that checks out. But they should spell it out as Xbox One Zero to maintain consistency and have an even more confusing chronology of console names.

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It’s like The Grinch mixed with Sonic mixed with Hell

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The Towers of Time really suck. Feel no draw to play them at all. And I played the crisis planets(or whatever they were called) in Injustice 2 for hours and hours trying to earn gear for my favorite characters.

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760 mph IS the speed of sound, my nerds

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Ragging on Less Than Jake? Ben's ska card has been revoked

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Will there ever be a popular podcast without some dude complaining about the sound quality?

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The speed of a bullet is around 1700 mph. Sonic can't even dodge a bullet what a chump.

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Crunch time is not something a company should be proud of, or hype as something good for the costumer...

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I'm really annoyed that the PC version of MK is behind PS4 with patches, but I don't want to complain to NR because who knows how hard these devs have to work on these updates? The triple A game industry feels broken.

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Man, I feel the complete opposite on a bunch of the MK stuff now. I thought the updates to the towers made them totally fine/fun to play, and I'm getting plenty of currency (even hearts, you get a bunch of consumables to increase rewards, it's not that bad). I also don't like the other color skins and find them pointless. There's an almost sentai-style dedication to color with the MK characters and changing it looks wrong and bad to me.

Overall I feel like the game is in a totally fine place now and the complaints sound like people just don't want to engage with it's systems and want them to change it instead of... trying. The currencies are not complicated.

Edit: I DO agree variants seem pointless, though at least they give you all the abilities unlike Injustice 2's bullshit. Like, if you can't use them for comp, why bother? I'm not planning on playing comp so I made ones for a couple of characters I like (like removing those choose-the-distance moves on Skarlet), but I can't imagine why most people would engage with that. I also super don't like the augment stuff at all.