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Giant Bombcast 666: Christmas Tree Shaped Eggs

We're here with the last LIVE episode of the Giant Bombcast in 2020! We're here to talk about Monster Sanctuary, World of Warcraft, the continuing situation around Cyberpunk 2077, and early-access pizza!

The Giant Bombcast is the world's most beloved video game podcast, and now it's available in video form.

Dec. 22 2020

Cast: Jeff, Matt, Jason, Jan

Posted by: Jan

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Fuck twitch, Hail Satan!

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@rorie Junction points are often your friend Rorie, it takes a minute to setup really and can convince your PC that you have a larger C drive. I'Ve been using them with Visual Studio for years. It might help with Flight Simulator.

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Jeff...Call Mr. Hands!

Also...HAIL SATAAAAAAAAN!!!!

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Finally, I knew they would make it just for me to comment

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Edited By yandren

My heart breaks every time they talk about WoW because it's so much worse a game than deserves those numbers but momentum carries them through. I played it for over 10 years since Vanilla, and I loved it, but they really drove it into the ground and I left - Legion was the true ending of that game. The story, design, and mechanics are so pathetic now and the people that care about it at all have left the dev team, but it still gets those half-hearted "yeah, it's good I guess..." that tricks people into buying it.
It's the same game being cut up and served for the past few years, for an expansion fee and a sub fee no less. BfA should've killed it but people looking for comfort keep it afloat and keep bringing people into the mediocre fold.

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I love Rorie and I'm glad he is here, but I wish Brad was along side Rorie in this bombcast. Is Brad doing ok?

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Edited By OdinReborn

@yandren: It sounds more like you just have an incredible case of nostalgia glasses and don't actually understand why WoW is in a better shape now than, say, 10 years ago. WoW Classic is always there waiting for you if you want that vanilla-like experience. BFA was a misstep, but the game as a whole has only been getting better. Shadowlands improved on a lot of what BFA failed on. Millions of people don't play WoW because they're suckers or are being duped.

It certainly doesn't mean WoW is perfect, because it's not, but I'm afraid 'Appeal to Old/Tradition' doesn't apply.

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@odinreborn: read what I said. I've been playing it for more than 10 years, I played Vanilla -> Legion. I don't have any illusions about what they've done to the game - I consider Legion to have been the best expac they put out. I got into game dev professionally because of how much Blizzard and Warcraft was a part of my life.

But the lead creatives left during Legion, and it shows - halfway through they really ran aground, and it hasn't recovered. What they've done to the game in terms of lore, which was a strength of the game at least enough to keep some people feeling like it was a worthwhile use of time, is forever there and ruinous - a giant ridiculous Mary Sue and inconsistent storytelling. Warcraft's never been a good story, but it had a consistency and process that was hard broken when the creative vision holders of the team left.

Even during Legion they've just been rehashing the pinnacle of class designs, and then taking them away each expac. The game really stopped getting new interesting things in MoP - they've added new systems, but the core combat for most classes stopped changing around then.

None of this is to even touch on what a horror show Blizzard is now in general. Anyone still supporting them out of what they used to be or because it's a comforting thing to not think about should DEFINITELY spend that money somewhere else.

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@yandren: I'm not going to have a back-and-forth on this here, but I guess my main question to ask is how you can determine WoW's current state if you haven't played since Legion? Sure, you can look from the outside-in, but you're just making conjectures at that point. I've personally have played since Day 1, so I understand the gradual changes that have been made to the game as well.

Not liking a game is fine, there's plenty of reasons to drop any game, new or old. But, I don't agree that WoW was a better product by virtue of that product being older or certain employees were at the helm. The systems in place in older expansions were not the pinnacle of WoW design, even if you personally liked them. Likewise, the current design decisions in Shadowlands are not "peak WoW".

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I worked at Pizza Hut when the stuffed crust pizza was first introduced, and we absolutely stuck string cheese on the crust and rolled it over. Aside from string cheese in Japan, it's the tastiest string cheese I've eaten. That was in 1995, I don't know if it's still the same cheese, but I still enjoy their stuffed crust, even when the cheese cools and hardens a bit.

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OMG I can't believe donairs got a shout out on the Bombcast, unprompted! Woo! KoD 4 life!

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PSO1's OST is legit, I know that much.

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Y'all this is a podcast please describe what you're doing if you're relying on video cause that Jeff cyberpunk reveal thing I am still not even sure what he did

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A Doom game came out during the same year that the Bombcast reaches 666! Coincidance?! Not likely!

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Look at the episode # and look at the year we've had. How did they know?

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Jeff raises a good point regarding updates when it comes to single player, story focused games. With a game like Cyberpunk 2077 lacking polish on launch, it can really hamper your first experience. Even if you go back and play it later, your first go with the game is ruined to some extent depending on how many of these bugs you hit - and I've hit a lot. Some intense, serious moments in the story have been rendered a joke.

I don't think Cyberpunk 2077 is a masterpiece by any means, but if the game had come out reasonably polished it would be an alright one of those Deus Ex-style games with some half baked open world stuff. In its current state the game seems pretty polarising, with many people in the wake of the incredible hype train either saying it's worse than Big Rigs or wilfully ignoring many of the issues with the game. I imagine the first impressions of people playing the game a year or two down the line, removed from the context of marketing and expectations, will be a fair bit different.

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Edited By hughj

Steam reviews of CB2077 show to be "Very Positive" when filtered by purchasers, and the breakdown looks to hold at roughly 75%/25% for each day since launch. 258k+ reviews so far, so a pretty large sample regardless of how many millions were sold through Steam.

It sucks for the console people trying to play it on the base systems, but I can't say that this was surprising. New engine/tech, new genre, covid, 4 different platforms, slow consoles, and really nothing much in the way of positive vibes/rumors about the progress of the game in the last year.

If one were to wind the clock back to X years ago and have CDPR design this game strictly as a base XBO/PS4 title by paring everything back and scaling it down, I have to wonder how many people would actually prefer that game to what we got. I don't think that game would have earned the early buzz that it did from E3 demos and subsequent gameplay trailers, just as it would lack the aspects that earn it praise now.

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I’ve been enjoying Cyberpunk on my Series S, but last night I had to reload saves and replay stuff 3 times due to bugs, and then eventually it just locked up and crashed my series s. So yeah that new patch really hasn’t gotten close yet. It’s fun enough when it doesn’t break though

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I loved that beast of a GameCube controller. I would break it out and still use it for random games if my brother hadn't spilled 7up on it and basically ruined the keys.

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Jeff please you need two copies one sealed one to open.

Also, where’s Alex on this diabolical episode

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Vanilla (classic) mounts were 100 (90*) gold for normal and 1000 (900*) gold for epic. Rorie's memory of vanilla (classic) WoW must be gone. But yes, gold has really inflated during the lifespan of the game. Which I am sure is what Jeff was going to mention.

*with faction discount

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Edited By shevar

I'm by no means a legal expert so take this with a grain of salt, but seeing that CD Projekt Red first stated that the game ran "surprisingly well" on PS4/Xbox One and than seeing the mess that game actually is on those consoles, there might be some actual ground here to get a class action lawsuit in.

The statements were made on record, so to me that statement is "misleading" at best.

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HAIL SANTA!

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PRESS Y TO HAIL SATAN

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@hughj said:

new genre

What genre is that?

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CD Projekt's 13 million number is up to December, 20th. They can count one less as I requested a Steam refund of Cyberpunk 2077 on the 21st. The first several minutes just felt so offputtingly "Bethesda" to me that I just don't want to spend time and hard drive space on it anymore.

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I’ve been waiting 12 years for this day.

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Edited By AV_Gamer

This has got to be one of the biggest blowups in video game history. Bigger than E.T on Atari and millions of copies of it getting destroyed. Bigger than Superman 64 and how it is often called the worst game ever made. I could go on, but y'all get the point. It's one thing for people to be disappointed in Cyberpunk 2077, but it to make international news and there being threats of lawsuits, now that's crazy. Of course, this would happen in 2020. Sadly, it seems like CDPR abusive practices have comeback to bite them in the arse big time. Not even EA has dealt with this kind of backlash and they deserve it more than any developer.

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Edited By UndeadKink

There sure are a lot of spam comments today...

Anyhoo, I've gotten more UI bugs in Cyberpunk since the 1.05 patch on PC. Mostly map icons duplicating themselves and rotating along with the compass. Weird. This is in addition to the other glitches/bugs (t-posing, missing clothing, floating weapons, etc), mind you.

Also, I'm pretty sure free Stadia is still (up to) 60fps, just limited to 1080p.

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Wait, Jeff FF7 Remake playthrough??

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The bass in Jeff's audio is way too high.

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Hail Santa!

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Would you like a Pewdie-PIE with your meal today, sir?

Also, according to a few vids I watched that Spam Oreo burger was topped with mayo. Which I couldn't tell if they hated it most of the time cause they hate mayo in general or because it was a bad combo. One person said it would be better without mayo. Another ended up getting some other spicy sauce on it and enjoyed it much more...Why do I know so much about this?....

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Rories college story really brought me back to sharing a room with my brother as a teenager. But a bit different. He would always hog our TV and never let me play any games. He wasn't even watching it or using it, just wanted background noise while he fucked around on his computer. Thankfully I was able to move into our room in the house that was used as an office eventually.

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Jeff's mic is warm in this episode, it's soothing to the ears.

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So they added Palace of the Dead/Heaven on High from FFXIV to WoW? I mean if it's good that's great for WoW players! I like PotD, it's fun side content and a great way to try out new classes. I love MMOs and I want everybody's personal favorite to be really good (RIP The Secret World... I miss how cool you used to be).

I really feel for WoW players who've been burned in the past by this game they've invested so much time in suddenly dropping the ball. My FC in FFXIV is more than half made up of former WoW players who were just so upset by it and like I'm crossing fingers FFXIV keeps ramping up the quality. I think it helps that FFXIV is kind of it's own thing, they can keep expanding their universe without worrying about existing Lore from an RTS series to pull off of and what they did with Shadowbringers really opens the door for quite a lot of content. Also helps that they kinda have an endgame in mind, I believe the lead designer has mentioned there WILL be a definite end for FFXIV somewhere down the road. It's like One Piece, it's gonna be a long trail to the end but they are building towards one.