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Alt+F1: 29 - 10/31/2014 - Ye Olde F1 Shoppe

With four cars down, this year's Carth Onasi GP is going to be a weird one. Meanwhile, we discuss new team rumors, VR safety cars, canopies, and just how many dongs it would take to save Marussia.

Alt+F1 is a weekly Formula 1 podcast from your friends at Giant Bomb. We run down the twists and turns of Earth's fastest and most expensive urinating contest. Join us for race recaps, news from the wide world of racing and the latest on Pastor Maldonado.

Oct. 31 2014

Posted by: Drew

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F1!

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This couldn't have posted at a better time.

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Hop in that Maserati and VROOM VROOM I'm racin'.

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Race cars are SPOOOOOOOKY!

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Just saw that movie

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Edited By burgavo

Awesome guys, didn't think we would get a pre austin podcast. Thanx

Also I think it would be fun if danny and drew could somehow rope andy in for next season.

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Young Frankendwyer and Drewbert Dead and Lovin' It.

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Danny drunk? Sounds a bit weird.

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Audi won't be racing in F1 This is a pretty clear statement. They're completely committed to WEC.

Also the Virtual safety car thing is similar to the Code60 used in WEC, I think it's a great system and so much better than deploying safety cars, it's 2014 we have better ways of doing things now so we shouldn't have to rely on safety procedures that have been used since the beginning.

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Nice to have you back, gents! I'm really looking forward to being fully awake and alert while an F1 race is going on for a change.

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It's called penny candy

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I do believe Audi in F1 is a longshot at this point.. I don't believe they'd participate unless they were committed as a full factory team and that seems very unlikely.

Although with 4-5 teams in dire circumstances the time might be right for a bold, unexpected move from a deep pocketbook.. F1 is a massive sport and the chance to ascend the ranks while there's chaos at the back of the pack might be aluring..

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It's a Halloween miracle.

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I have little to no interest in F1, but listening to Drew and Danny talking shop is compelling in-and-of itself. They have a great rapport.

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Administration in the UK is what we'd call bankruptcy in the U.S., so yes, both teams are basically bust and there are government dudes trying to sort things out and claim anything possible to pay off debt holders and stakeholders in the team. Which is a problem if they're trying to sell your spare wings and all your tools which you need to be an F1 team and still showing up to races. Both teams will not make the USGP and the Brazilian GP, but there's an outside chance Marussia can make the finale at Abu Dhabi.

This week's Radio Le Mans Mid Week Motorsports podcast has a fantastic breakdown at the beginning of the episode about what's going on with Caterham and Marussia. The thing is there's a lot of rolling debt obligations for both teams, and without franchising in F1 (as in, the teams hold the right to a place on the F1 grid, which would hold inherent value) there's little hope for either to recover. Unlike the quotes from Gene Haas that are told during the show, really the case with Caterham is owner Tony Fernandes either discovering he doesn't have enough money or interest to keep F1 going, and considering he also owns a team currently in the English Premier League (Queens Park Rangers) it's possible this toy lost the sheen and he's tired of playing with it. Now the Caterham ownership situation is a mess. Marussia is a similar case -- billionaire owner tired of pumping money into an F1 team -- but without trying to find a new owner at the same time.

Formula 1 really needs to change how the teams are organized and paid, because this has gotten to be major stratification that will collapse the sport as we know it. I'm sure if it did go bust then Red Bull, Ferrari, McLaren, Williams and Brawn/Mercedes would still find some way to go racing in open-wheel cars, but the setup as it currently exists would be gone.

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Welcome back Drew!

I thought it was time to mention that me and a few other GB duders have a tradition of making food mistakes to eat during the early morning races. We call them "F-Yums", and I encourage others to do the same and share their results.

Edit: watch out for g-g-g-ghost cars!

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I shall save this podcast for the plane ride back to Chicago; too busy having fun in Austin. I really hope Lewis takes pole and keeps his points lead this weekend.

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Love Danny working in what I consider to be a great American "Swing and a miss."

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Posh Danny is best Danny

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Anyone know how to subscribe to the premium RSS feed on Android? I'm a premium member and my device won't seem to let me.

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Did Kimi race in Nascar? I thought it was rally?

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@laserjesus: I don't know, it's great no denying that, but I also like Danny's Ricciardo impression quite a bit.

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@andrewf87462: He raced a couple of races in Nascar. Took the heat-shield out on one race and burnt his butt. True story.

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@drewbert@dannyodwyer Fiat splitting off Ferrari is pretty big news, I hope you guys will talk about it on the next episode.

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This is my second year at COTA!

I live near Austin and started going to F1 just before y'all started Alt-F1. It's been great to learn about the sport along side the other duders!

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As much as I enjoyed the Langcast (which helped me beat Olmec!), it's still good to have Drew back on this!

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Did Kimi race in Nascar? I thought it was rally?

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He did, and it was hilarious

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Audi in F1 would exacerbate the cost problem, because when Audi goes in to a top-tier motorsport they spend obscene amounts of money even by top-tier motorsport standards. They've all but killed off LMP1 by spending the rest of the field into an early grave, unless F1 puts some serious thought to spending caps I would image history would repeat itself.

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I thought my name was silly. My prayers go out to Anal and the Cockram family.

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Svenske?

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CARS!

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DANNY THE ROCKET THAT BLEW UP WAS PRIVATELY OWNED AND OPERATED

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What would happen if Boeing teamed up with F1?

Well ask the Lotus F1 team that has teamed up with Boeing the last 7 years.

Edit: According to the Lotus F1 site Boeing has contributed with "Computational fluid dynamics and advanced materials".

Trivia: Other great aerospace teamups with F1 includes the ongoing success with Airbus and caterham.

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@obcdexter said:

Danny drunk? Sounds a bit weird.

@grondoth said:

DANNY THE ROCKET THAT BLEW UP WAS PRIVATELY OWNED AND OPERATED

Just listened to this and I've got to agree, Danny sounded a bit off for whatever reason. Like, why did he hate the person he met named, "Shayne" just because their parents spelled it different from the only spelling I really knew, the Shane from the old Jack Palance movie. Don't get too hung up on cultural differences because, when you get obsessed with the "enemy" you become the "enemy!"