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Beast in the East: Yakuza 0 - Part 16

Kiryu is a very popular boy who makes friends through karaoke, the radio, and phone chat groups.

The Giant Bomb East crew takes on the Yakuza series.

May. 22 2017

Cast: Vinny, Alex, Dan

Posted by: Abby

In This Episode:

Yakuza 0

Episode Notes:

Just a heads-up, there is a part in this episode featuring scantily clad "school teachers" and "cops" fighting in a pretty suggestive way. It is not safe for your work or theirs!

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I'm pretty sure the audio for GBeast stuff has been reversed for a while now. Game audio specifically, running by the disco in this video I noticed the music was coming from the wrong side and also when goons notice you their voices were from the wrong side as well.

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@tigerdx: I feel it would be a little overzealous to accuse Yakuza of being insensitive just because it portrays some of it's foreign characters as not being fully fluent in their second language. It's just a fact of life that when learning a second language, you aren't going to speak it perfectly for a while, and the game never seems to poke fun of the way those characters talk or treat them maliciously. It also provides examples of foreigners that speak Japanese perfectly fine (Lee and Tachibana to name a couple).

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As sort of mundane as completing the business quests chains are, they are kind of important because it unlocks each characters final fighting style on completion. The upgrade tree of each 4th style is just a massive pile of raw stat boosts (HP,DMG, and Heat).

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Less story about your balls, your family member balls, or any balls ever.

I mean I like you guys, but jesus.

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I think Dan's balls stories + Alex/Vinny's reactions are hilarious.

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@alex The business stuff really isn't necessary. I finished the story quite handily and only scratched the surface of it, much less than you guys have already done. I've since done both strands and Kiryu's stuff is a grind until you really start unlocking the big payouts. There are some nice little story beats on the way but nothing more than 'nice'.

Majima's, on the other hand, is great to watch.

I'm only now starting to do the slot racing stuff - Heartily recommended for someone calm and hard to frustrate. You're a nice guy, Alex, and I know you'll do what's right by Dan. *cough*

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@murdoc_ said:

Less story about your balls, your family member balls, or any balls ever.

I mean I like you guys, but jesus.

Yeah, had to take some pain meds just to listen to that.

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It was exactly turquoise. Teal depending on who you ask, but not really.

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"being a monarch..." "makes your clothes disappear" was a drew-level pun

Bravo Vinny!

the panda popuiation would have no more problems at all if Panda from Tekken finally gives in to Kuma's the 2nd advances

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Dan Balls.

Alex stop.

Dan Balls balls balls balls

I really just want to mute the video. Drawn to Death annoying

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Only for Dan is "getting high" the most terrifying prospect of taking Vicodin.

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@tigerdx said:

I can't help but compare the fake-bad Japanese (and sometimes bad-bad English), that some of the foreign characters speak, to "Fly lice," Shadow Warrior, and other similar offensively bad representations of Asian cultures. Is it okay because it's flipped? That doesn't seem to even out, but perhaps I'm missing something.

Also, I guess this series isn't exactly courting in sensitivity, so maybe it's all just par for the course.

Do you speak Japanese? From the little I've been able to make out, the subtitles seem to exaggerate the brokenness of the speech (though honestly I don't know if that makes it better or worse). I imagine the clues that would stand out to a Japanese speaker (accent, slowness of speech, stilted word choice, not being 100% correct etc.) don't really translate well to text.

Either way, I'm not really getting anything offensive from it - it's just a quick way of establishing they don't have a great grasp of the local tongue (and thus may have their own somewhat insular sub-culture, especially as Chinese-Japanese relations have historically been less than friendly). This is especially true as they aren't shown to be treated poorly as a result, and there are plenty of other Chinese characters that do speak fluent Japanese (Oda, Tachibana, Lee).

It's just one of those things that a second (or subsequent) language is going to lag behind your mother tongue for quite some time (TBH, if my Japanese was even half as good as the poorly-spoken Chinese characters here I'd be psyched!)

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Just checking - I thought the guys had said that there was going to be a new episode today, is that not the case?

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@dunchad said:

I love Abby. Having her shout out tips from the chat during PUBG stream and now googling facts for the crew while they're trying to figure out a catfight mechanics is so great. For those of us that get frustrated watching the crew fumble around when we know the answers, she is a blessing.

I agree it's great having her doing that legwork and interjecting, but can ya blame them? There were SIX PAGES of involved instructions in that catfight minigame when the ENTIRE thing is predicated upon luck.

The devs were probably just too nervous people wouldn't engage with it if they said: Bet on your woman, pick your move, mash when you tie. So you get these bloated, worthless instructions that give you the illusion of control.

Just checking - I thought the guys had said that there was going to be a new episode today, is that not the case?

Check one of their Twitters (or the Giant Bomb East) one, they're usually really good about updating delays/cancellations.

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Amazing!

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@stordoff It's a little late, but hello! It's me, your local politically educated trans girl, ready to make one post and then disappear again! I'm here to say that yes, Man-In-A-Dress gags are still scorchingly transmisogynistic, especially considering that this one is a good ol' classic Muscle Tranny one. The "masculine" aspects of the character model(jawline, shoulder width, limb width and muscle density, etc) are above and beyond any of the others in the game for the sole purpose of juxtaposing the dress and the long hair, classic symbols of traditional femininity. They clash on purpose, to make the character seem like a freak for acting like a girl when they are presented to the audience as physically not being a girl. Some nice homophobia on display with the character, as well, mostly through equating femininity to attraction towards men and being another queer coded villain... something that can be found in several other places in this game. (Please count the number of IM NOT GAY BRO comments that this game makes )

Not really too terribly surprising to find it here given Japan's long history as a traditionally patriarchal society with extremely conservative political leanings and a near-complete lack of understanding or acceptance for anyone falling under the LGBT+ initialism. And yet, despite a lot of the weird shit in this game that makes me go "urggghhhghhhh" and the way it legitimately does not seem to see women as actual human beings with agency that can exist outside of the sexual fantasies of men.. I can't stop playing it and enjoying it. It's good as hell.

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@artelinarose: the story is set in the 80's, a period piece wouldn't need to abide by today's standards.

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@danryckert I'm glad you told the story about when you were 18, my brother had the same thing done much later in life and after he had a child. Apparently the thing that happens with the veins in your balls can decrease the chances you have of being able to have children later in life.

More people should know about it, since it is actually fairly common.

more info here: http://youngmenshealthsite.org/guides/varicoceles/

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Pretty funny how Dan sounds like an angry dog whenever he gets shot down during training arrrrrrr.. :D

It kinda baffles me how they don't investigate the master moves after they find out that not every master move can be unlocked at the same time. Having 2 choices and 30 million to spend on one, i would at least put my cursor on the master slots to see if there's a big red number on it or something. Dan browsed over it once by accident but apparently none of them saw a big red 3. Luckily they unlocked the right one by chance.

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@sharkman: That kind of defense doesn't work to excuse the trope. This game wasn't made in the 80s, it's simply set then.

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@sabeau said:

@sharkman: That kind of defense doesn't work to excuse the trope. This game wasn't made in the 80s, it's simply set then.

then it is ok to ignore what they were fighting for? By showing people that 80s were no different than today's standards makes the current generation ignorant of how people were treated in the past.

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@sharkman: Who is fighting for what? In the appropriate context, yes, understanding of the injustices and prejudices of the past informs a better path into the future. A clear application of "Man in a Dress" trope for comedic use, written for this game, certainly by a team of mostly men in a culture that is noted for its lack of acceptance of LGBT people, is not the appropriate context for the a look at the past of what it means to be transgender. Especially considering it is a commonly recycled trope in Japanese media, which is already chock full of "wacky" sexism. If you think that this shallow, antagonistic caricature loaded with routine cultural intolerance is a kind of appropriate representation, or this game, a pretty cartoonish portrayal of the time and place, an appropriately historical place for addressing that... really? Games have a great potential for addressing complicated issues in a meaningful way, but the people making the games have to live up to that. This doesn't make the cut.

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@sabeau said:

@sharkman: Who is fighting for what? In the appropriate context, yes, understanding of the injustices and prejudices of the past informs a better path into the future. A clear application of "Man in a Dress" trope for comedic use, written for this game, certainly by a team of mostly men in a culture that is noted for its lack of acceptance of LGBT people, is not the appropriate context for the a look at the past of what it means to be transgender. Especially considering it is a commonly recycled trope in Japanese media, which is already chock full of "wacky" sexism. If you think that this shallow, antagonistic caricature loaded with routine cultural intolerance is a kind of appropriate representation, or this game, a pretty cartoonish portrayal of the time and place, an appropriately historical place for addressing that... really? Games have a great potential for addressing complicated issues in a meaningful way, but the people making the games have to live up to that. This doesn't make the cut.

you reply to my comment from months ago, and tell me they shouldn't have done that. they should have changed how history treated people; or better yet how people in that country are currently being treated(?). The world isn't as accepting as PC america, cultures aren't as accepting; and most don't learn by people telling them what they can't do.

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@sharkman: It has nothing to do with treatment, its about portrayal.

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@sharkman: It has nothing to do with treatment, its about portrayal.

that's what i meant, if you can't look at the past mistakes how can they remember how they portrayed them unfairly. Call Yakuza 0 a cultural time capsule, and leave it at that; besides did you see the Japanese reaction to the "Me Too" movement? seems like they have a lot of work to do besides that.