People always talk about Psi Ops but I always preferred Second Sight which came out at the same time. It had more sneaking and I was always a sucker for stealth games.
I kinda felt the guys had a good definition of what you considered a B game with their short summary at the start of the series. After this though I have no idea what they consider a B game. Of course it does not actually matter in the end as long as the game is fun to watch. Especially since I have figured out the real secret reason of what constitutes a B game an older game the guys want to play at the moment.
This game was part of a huge multimedia push by LucasArts and was even considered pretty high up in the canon for a time. It was a really big release. I'm pretty sure Lucas himself even had a hand in it. I don't think the reviews were even that bad, overall. Weird to see it considered a B-game
The Force Unleashed II you could probably make an argument for, though.
Enjoyed this, but I would not consider the Force Unleashed to be a B game under any circumstance. Your definition of b game is like people judging wines.
There's something about this game. It's one of those games that I know if I were given a copy I would play it through and totally enjoy my time with it. But if I spent more than like $4 I know it would impact my enjoyment.
There's just something about it that repels me from paying for it, I'm looking at a copy for $7.50 USD on ebay and I just can't bring myself to pull the trigger haha.
I mean, C&C as a series has sold ~30 million games. For some random comparisons, Metal Gear ~50 million, Guitar Hero ~40 million, Mario Party ~40 million, Splinter Cell 30 million, Metroid 18 million, Forza 16 million, Hitman 15 million.
People have heard of [...] the Sonics
At 90 million sales, it's not exactly a huge gulf in total sales. Big, but comparable.
Command & Conquer's long history resulted in Guinness World Records awarding the series [...] "Biggest Selling RTS Series" [Wikipedia]
Sales is not just a dumb argument; it's a wrong argument.
Uhm, excuse me, my dudes. I have to come out of the shadows and say that as someone that that recently replayed Kotor I and II, Kotor II is undeniably the better. They both play like arse, but II is more interesting and the story more dynamic. I"m not even sure why there is a dark path in the first game, it has no effect on your party until the last hour. At least in Kotor II it actually feels like your party members are alive and react to things. Plus it's about Sith Lords. Darth Nihlus. C'mon.
Guys, a B-movie is a low-budget movie. It isn't defined by quality. You seem to get this, saying there are great B-games, but you simultaneously keep wondering if a lame big budget game is a B-game. It can't be one. Stop!!!!!!!!!!
@sankis: I agree with you on this. The Force Unleashed had too much behind it to be a B game. I could be wrong, but I don't remember nearly as much hype or marketing around the sequel.
The debate over what makes a game a B-game is the dumbest thing to happen on this website, and I say that while knowing full well a pie was once flushed down a toilet here.
This game was pretty alright. Def not a B game (this thing had a massive marketing push, and given that I doubt they skimped on dev costs), but it seems that ground was covered plenty in the chat, so I'll just add that I was always bummed that some of the mechanics and concepts in this game never got fully fleshed out. The second game was just kinda more of the first, but without the novelty.
I get where they're coming from for calling this a B game, but this falls a little too close to a mediocre/poor A game to me. So many other extremely B ass B games to cover before this.
Star Wars Bounty Hunter is the most B game I can think of for Star Wars games, and it's actually pretty good.
Dan seems to have completely backed away from his statement in the first episode about how whether or not a game is a B game has nothing to do with quality.
Count on film major @danryckert to correctly state that there are 14 Land Before Time "films". I was somewhat surprised it wasn't higher, but there was a long gap from 2007 to 2016 (thanks Obama).
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@odinsmana I agree, this series got off to a promising start with a reasonably clear idea of what the term "B game" meant, but the intro here puts an end to that. They're contradicting themselves in the space of minutes, in particular regarding B-gameness and quality. That's ok though...I'll just pretend the B is for Beast and enjoy the content which is still good.
B-movies are literally defined by their budget, so I can't say I understand their intuition-based approach to defining B-games. With that said, it's also an overall harder undertaking since movies are open about their budgets while games are not.
In any case, I'm pretty fine with them playing it fast and loose with the definition but for the love of god, I hope them incessantly listing games and trying to justify whether they're B-games or not isn't a recurring theme of the series.
But to immediately go against what I just said, this is an A-game through and through, even if it's kind of bad.
They totally lost me with the premise of this series when going on calling stuff like Command and Conquer and this "B" games. Now "B game" is apparently any game they feel like playing that's not GTA or something. I feel like we watch gbomb play enough mediocre or better old games without this redundant series.
This just felt like another playdate or whatever else, they always play old games like this, only difference was a hour of discussion of just naming a bunch of games and calling them B games which got old fast tbh... I got to the point where I just did not care what their constantly changing definition of a B game was anymore. Not feeling this series, rare miss from GBeast imo.
We need a new Contradiction or Kerbal type series plx.
God, I hope they do Breakdown at some point--I got a big goofy grin on my face when Alex mentioned it. It's one of my favorite probably terrible games.
I will always maintain that this game was great. And I played it even before the patch smoothed out the targeting. Also my favorite Star Wars storytelling in a videogame.
D: Like, Monster Hunter. Total B-game here. A-game over there. No-one cares about it here. A: That's not true- D: I know. *both grin* A: Now you're just being a heel.
@vinny, you're not wrong! Matt Sloan, voice of Chad Vader (of the Youtube series "Chad Vader: Day Shift Manager"), did indeed play the voice of Darth Vader in The Force Unleashed and its sequel.
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