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The Giant Beastcast: Episode 187

Friend of the site and good dogs everywhere, Casey Malone, joins the full crew to talk the state of Red Dead online, Hades on the Epic Games Store (aka EGG), and Dusk. If you didn't know who Backpack Kid was going into this, you sure as hell will be even more confused once we're done.

The Giant Bomb East team gathers to talk about the week in video games, their lives, and basically anything that interests them. All from New York City!

Dec. 21 2018

Cast: Vinny, Alex, Dan, Abby

Posted by: Abby

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I wish you guys videoed these I can't listen to something and do something else.

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187 in this bitch!!

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I wonder if they will cover the Riot COO story on the Beastcast and then talk about how Dan used to fart on people for fun at GameInformer.

EDIT: Maybe it was Dan farting on peoples food now that I think of it? Although I'm not sure which is worse.

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Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas, y'all!

EDIT: I've been using Astros for years now - they're good but nothing too outstanding in terms of sound quality, but the main thing for me is how comfortable they are. I also like that the cable is separate from the headset, as that tends to be the thing that's broken on my previous headsets and being able to replace a single cable is vastly cheaper. They're probably overpriced because of the brand, but I've been very happy with them so they were worth it for me.

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I'm only partway through the podcast. Are they going to do a Keyforge quick look? Or have they already hit their 'Unplugged' content quota by recording a Fiasco podcast for next week.

Sidenote: I'm crap at both card games and artsy stuff, but thought why not.

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Cause it's 187 on a motherfuckin cop.

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@4:29
Vinny: "Did you make a Simpsons reference yet?"
Casey: "Not yet."
Alex: "We're saving that for the end."

Three minutes earlier, @1:04
Alex: "It's the new model of Jeff. Got a new hat."

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Not to defend Below too much because there are a lot of issues with it, but Dans comment about how "nothing about controlling the character or combat feels good" is maybe a bit much. The hunger mechanics suck, the corpse runbacks can be a pain, but it controls absolutely fine. It's fast and snappy, you get a dodge, you have a shield. Sometimes (well always really) when Dan doesn't like something it opens this floodgate of negativity for him where suddenly everything is bad about the game. Below doesn't control any worse than oldschool Zelda games or any other modern game really. The trappings around it make it hard to digest that is true though.

Not sure why I felt the need to write that up since as I mentioned above, Below is far from a "great" game, but not everything about it is "no fun".

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@humanity: agreed. Idk how I feel about the game yet but the controls are great.

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Goose Rider

Best Beastcast already.

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Dusk is dope.

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Shouts to Casey for namedropping the Replacements and Superchunk. Have had both on repeat for the last month.

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Happy Christmas Beastcast!

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@humanity: I farted on Jeff Marchiafava's desk at the office. I farted on Tim Turi's leftover BBQ meat at a lake once.

Tim Turi sat on my head and farted during a livestream of Ride to Hell Retribution as well.

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Casey's guesting on the pod! Hell yeah!!!

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@danryckert: truly the frat house of videogame coverage.

Farting on someone’s food though..cmon Dan..

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I like how Dan doubles down on his Wal-Mart love. lol

Good episode, Casey was a great guest.

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#ReplaceDanWithCasey2019

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@humanity: To make it SLIGHTLY less terrible, I did it directly in front of him so I knew he wouldn't wind up eating it.

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Huh, I didn't watch the BELOW quick look yet, as I was wary of spoilers, but if Dan is still dying to spikes and things (aka the early way of teaching the player maybe you should be CAREFUL), I think I'll be okay :p

Disappointing to hear the pile-on against the game, I'm really really liking it. It's deliberate and slow, and it's more about experiencing the world and mood than combat or anything for me. That said, it could end poorly, those are just my hopes. "Nothing fun about controlling the character" really undersells the little touches in the game that make it feel like you're in a dark, dangerous place.

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Jason Schreier brought up a good point regarding this Raimi Spider-Man "controversy"

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It feels like this is happening more and more. Someone finds one person complaining somewhere in near obscurity and then blasts it out everywhere and a million articles and videos get made about how there's this huge controversy happening.

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It's so weird to me that between the comments on the Bombcast and the comments on the Beastcast there at least seems to be some sort of vague implication of hypocrisy between them being disgusted at the behavior of a COO and Dan's own behavior.

Like, are these just bad goofs or do a lot of us really not know that there is a HUGE difference between the behavior of Dan Ryckert and Scott Gelb?

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@petefic: Yeah, I was just about to post wondering if the Marvel guy came on just to address the supposed suit controversy. It's not as if these niche Twitter flare-ups merit that sort of damage control.

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@yandren: Oh man I won't spoil any of Below for you so I'll just say that game goes places. Also I was just laughing at Dan saying run around and die again a stupid way paraphrasing there, but at some point maybe it's not the game. I only died a handful of times and am now considering a single life run now that I know how the game works

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Merry Christmas every one

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Also merry Christmas and happy holidays to all. Be safe out there.

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Calling the Epic Game Store "Eggs" is good and what it should be called from now on.

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Hello folks!

Abby mentioned someone doing the L dance from Fortnite during the World Cup. Well, she’s totally right! For those curious, the player is Antoine Griezmann, star winger/striker for Atletico Madrid. He also starts on the French national team, and featured a lot during their World Cup run

You’re all welcome for this super helpful and absolutely essentially fun fact!

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I just cant take it anymore, i have tried so hard to keep still...But Hades(tm) is not about escaping hell! Hades is not remotely the same as the devil! Everyone who dies is going to the domain of hades, no expections. Within this underworld there is a place for the heroic/ good and the evil and the average. But its all under Hades management. The great warriors dont al go to mount Olympus when they die.

Try to keep a bigger perspective than just the Christian myths you grew up with. Not every relogion has a perfect 1 to 1 comparison with Christianity.

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Not covering the Riot COO story is irresponsible. This kind of shit is something gamers need to be made aware of.

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@eazeapeazea: The story was already discussed on the Bombcast. "Irresponsible" is a strange way to put it. This is a show where they make jokes about putting corks in their butts to keep the farts in, I'm fine if they don't cover every single news story. Who needs to be made aware that isn't already?

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@bicycle_repairman: Yeah, hearing Jeff say "the devil" and "hell" in relation to a game with Greek gods was weird.

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@indigozeal: I don't think he works for Marvel. He works for Demiurge.

@petefic: That's how a lot of sites have made articles for years now. A few people on Twitter say a thing, and then it's all, "Fans are saying this," the people see that their outrage got picked up in a news cycle (well, "news"), more people flock to their side as more articles get written, and so on. The snake eats its own tail. It's a symptom--or a feature, if you want to by cyncial--of social media. Some of those who write online for a living are getting better about realizing this.

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Jeff got real dangerous to an Arthur Morgan impression. Still funny to me.

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Slay the Spire is one of the best games this year. As someone who was only bought two early access games ever, this is totally worth it.

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What a season, what a season. Thanks for another great year of the Giant Beastcast, folks.

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eazeapeazea

Not covering the Riot COO story is irresponsible. This kind of shit is something gamers need to be made aware of.

musclerider

@eazeapeazea: The story was already discussed on the Bombcast. "Irresponsible" is a strange way to put it. This is a show where they make jokes about putting corks in their butts to keep the farts in, I'm fine if they don't cover every single news story. Who needs to be made aware that isn't already?

I'm not aware of what the story is, these comments are the first I've read about something going on with Riot. I mostly just listen to the Beastcast right now, haven't really had the podcast time for other shows.

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Slay the Spire is one of the best games this year. As someone who was only bought two early access games ever, this is totally worth it.

Seconded. Just checked and I have 345 hours in Slay the Spire. Trying to get those ascension levels is absolutely brutally hard but in a fun way. My only gripe is that for every ascension modifier, the deck that beats it per class is the exact same deck every time. Every deck basically has a "god deck" that if you get the right relics and RNG you can use. It will beat the game under any circumstance. That is basically what you are trying to get every time you play when you are trying to get the higher ascension levels, so it has become pretty repetitive. But holy shit is this game worth the money.

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There were like 8 people complaining about that spider man thing. People need to stop listening to and amplifying fanboys.

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Video Beastcast in 2019! Make it happen guys!

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@curryspiced: A lot has been going on at Riot. Back in August, Kotaku published this article about a culture of sexism at Riot. Riot responded and said they would get better. Later, Riot fired a couple of employees for violating their social media policies. The most recent issues to come to light involve the company's COO, which this article talks about. Employees said that the COO, Scott Gelb, frequently engaged in acts like ball-tapping, farting on people, and humping people.

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I can’t believe Abby is still salty about her speakers. I understood her the same way Jeff did. She wasn’t clear and it was an honest to god misunderstanding. Maybe let it go.

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@curryspiced: The COO at Riot was suspended for sophmoric acts like nut tapping and humping against employees at the office. I guess some people are just getting up in arms because it's a lot like Dan often talking about how he thought it was harmless fun to fart on people.

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@splodge: It doesn't come out of early access until next year though. It's similar to Dead Cells in that it is more polished in early access than a large amount of regular releases.