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The Giant Beastcast: Episode 210

The crew's all here after their long weekend and they're ready to discuss everything: from Death Stranding, to scented candles, to googling KIDS! We've got it all!

The Giant Bomb East team gathers to talk about the week in video games, their lives, and basically anything that interests them. All from New York City!

May. 31 2019

Cast: Vinny, Alex, Dan, Abby

Posted by: Abby

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Die-Hardman.

If you're not on board after that, then what is wrong with you

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Beastie time. Die Hardman, yep. I'm on board.

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Jeff.
Tag the Jeff.
Jeff tag.

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Definitely gonna have to wait and see what the consensus is on Death Stranding.

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Win32 is the older Windows API that games and most programs used before Windows 10 introduced their Universal Windows Platform (UWP). UWP is much more restrictive in what developers can do, and it became mandatory for the MS Store. Most developers abandoned both so MS opening up their store to Win32 is an admission that UWP is a failure to try to resuscitate their store, which is also a failure. Better late than never but it's yet another "platform" for the Windows graveyard.

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@zoofame: yeah, now you'll be able to have more games on the Windows 10 store, and no longer have Win 10 exclusive versions like a couple Call of Duty games ago that could only play against Windows 10 players and not against Steam players.

Fun Fact, I don't buy into the Vinny conspiracy that MS and Valve are teaming up against the Epic store, but Tim Sweeny use to go on some pretty nice diatribes against UWP when it was announced. I care less about the Epic/Steam war, but this tweet is one of his recent ones.

https://twitter.com/timsweeneyepic/status/1025528753823342594?lang=en

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I came for the Death Stranding discussion. Was not disappointed.

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@bsmittel: Indeed, Sweeney made some pretty big waves calling out MS for trying to go the route of Apple and Google with their locked-down App store model. That also scared Valve into their big push to make Linux a viable option for PC games as an escape hatch. Luckily it's not the bad old days of the early 90s when MS probably could have pulled off something like that before getting sued. Of course the instant Sweeney got a taste of that Fortnite money he went and recreated console exclusives and fractured the otherwise unified PC market.

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Alex, tone it down please.

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Please tag Jeff his absence makes me feel bad

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It’s rather a bit Dan is doing or he thinks something political means current politics like from 2016. What no one told Dan is that actually everything in our society is politics. EVERYTHING. I think Dan interprets controversial as politics.

One more thing about Death Stranding and politics is that yes the game makes references to walls separating us and no doubt from what’s happening to America and the EU that will play a heavy part in the symbolism but an interview with Norman Reedus I want to say last year on a radio show actually gave the meaning behind the game. Kojima is more about focusing on the walls that social media has created, the whole game is an anti-technology message that we wall ourselves off and human connection is dying and that’s what will ultimately kill our planet. If you’ve ever seen the movie “Her” that is a good way to think about the meaning behind Death Stranding.

Also when Sam talks about returning the world with cables isn’t the answer to this as that’s what got the world of Death Stranding destroyed in the first place (paraphrasing obviously) then that just jumps more heavily into what Norman Reedus was saying. You can easily find this interview on YouTube.

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Dan....please.

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Dan is no Contra expert if he doesn't know Probotector is Euro Contra: Hard Corp.

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I do not understand the love for PT.

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Kojima talk ends at 1:52:44

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Dan is being absolutely roasted here and rightfully so

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@adamalc said:

I do not understand the love for PT.

Seconded. It's not nearly as scary as everyone builds it up to be. That "fetus" in the sink looks like one of the podrace announcers from Phantom Menace.

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Die-Hardman.

If you're not on board after that, then what is wrong with you

I don't know, you tell me.

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@zoofame said:

Win32 is the older Windows API that games and most programs used before Windows 10 introduced their Universal Windows Platform (UWP). UWP is much more restrictive in what developers can do, and it became mandatory for the MS Store. Most developers abandoned both so MS opening up their store to Win32 is an admission that UWP is a failure to try to resuscitate their store, which is also a failure. Better late than never but it's yet another "platform" for the Windows graveyard.

There is 2 good things about Win32 API: old games, less native plugin problem for game developers.

With game pass on Windows, I think MS store might have a shot in staying relevant.

(By the way, Microsoft, if you are listening, I have been waiting for a Viva Pinata digital re-release.)

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ybbaaabby  Staff

@anderswarming: I've answered this before, but Jeff isn't in our back end because he isn't technically our employee. I'd add him if I could!

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I think Dan might need to play MGS1 a few more times because it still seems like he doesn't understand it.

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Sounds like we need to have a Metal Gear Abby series

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Is there anything more Dan than arguing that war isn't political?

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Megadeth's mascot is Vic Rattlehead

Oh Well, wherever, wherever you are

Iron Maiden's gonna get you, no matter how far

See the blood flow watching it shed up above my head

Iron Maiden wants you for dead

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I don't remember the last time I felt the need to actually comment on something here on the site but I just cannot with Dan this week.

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@danryckert is absolutely correct! Death Stranding looks great and the MG series has some of the best story in video games. Metal Gear is more philosophical than political.

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I don't even....

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@ybbaaabby: Yeah, I figured as much. Sorry you had to take time to answer that. Maybe a tiny revolving chair icon, some sort of participation trophy (tiny tissue). Something appropriate of his contribution.

I realise it might be a bit much seeing as how often Jeff makes an appearance but with a little luck, within a few days, he’s part of the wiki and can be added - at your discretion - under "In This Episode", like when Austin drops by. Or maybe just as a treat here and there.

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Rare time when the free version is better than the premium because you get Vinny's excellent Harley Quinn impression.

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P.T is not as silly or corny as Metal Gear...unless you count that talking paper bag that is also a dead baby.

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@danryckert is absolutely correct! Death Stranding looks great and the MG series has some of the best story in video games. Metal Gear is more philosophical than political.

There's a reason why we say "everything is political"

The reality is, wordviews and beliefs permeate and affect views and decisions far more than people want to admit. And the only time we invoke the idea of "not being political" is towards worldviews and beliefs that are controversial and assume to be false. Trying so hard to avoid politics is itself political as a result lol. No disrespect for Dan, we're in a country that actively tries to cover it's ears about any worldview that isn't already the norm

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They had me at Die-Hardman.

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jesus christ dan, just because you've memorized characters and events from mgs games and how they relate to one-another doesn't mean you understand the meaning of any of it.

I wish someone had asked him to define politics because it's pretty clear he has no idea what it means.

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I hope Alex is alright. I don't know if it's just me, but it seems like he is getting increasingly irritable across various content on the site.

(putting aside moments of peak Dan-isms)

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@halim51: If anything I'd say Alex has mellowed with time.

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I can't believe I was in Dan's corner about metal gear only to be WAY not in his corner as soon as he said mgs didn't have politics in the games

This is the most ridiculous thing he's said since are pirates criminals

And then to say PT wasn't kojima

WHAT

Love you dan but god

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@pants: Really? Interesting. I thought I started noticing it during the GOTY podcasts (accepting they're stuck in a hot room for hours on end and anyone would get a little irritable), and thought I was just seeing it throughout other videos and pods.

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I refuse to believe a man who thought an egg's shell was the egg whites understands FUCKING ANYTHING about the Metal Gear series.

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xbox game pass already works on the PC (for the cross buy titles)

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Ah yes, a game about war, environmentalism, the break down of society with undertones/allusions to childbirth, the validity of identity, and displacement of people (whether it is literally people bending gravity & time or people living in the mountains for some reason)...not political at all.

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I had a hard time finding this one as well, so here it is - the game Alex talked about right after Kids at 25:45 is Vectronom: https://vectronom.arte.tv/

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@toxicantidote: "Send him to the murder slingshot" is probably my favorite GB quote

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Would an "In This Episode: Jeff Bakalar" tag be a possible solution, maybe? Or do those tags have to link to a wiki entry? Are there any grounds for making a Bakalar wiki entry?

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"MGS 2 doesnt have politics" except the part were the government wants full control of the digital media flow.

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It's my birthday* and Vinny didn't wish me a Happy Birthday :(

Nice stinger though

*It's not really my birthday.

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I get so frustrated with the "Kojima can do no wrong" "Kojima is the best storyteller ever" He has great ideas but the man needs an editor to tell a "great" story. It is why I was so looking forward to PT, Kojima ideas with an actual storyteller/editor in Del Toro. Kojima is also a huge misogynist and has yet to show he has changed his views.

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It's my birthday* and Vinny didn't wish me a Happy Birthday :(

Nice stinger though

*It's not really my birthday.

Happy Bir.... ohhhh