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The Giant Beastcast: Episode 225

40 minutes of Death Stranding and I'm still not exactly sure what is going on, Nintendo wants us to join these totally normal humans in their exercise game, and we've got our tech guy here to tell you all about Apple. It's an action packed show full of action that you won't want to miss!

The Giant Bomb East team gathers to talk about the week in video games, their lives, and basically anything that interests them. All from New York City!

Sep. 13 2019

Cast: Vinny, Dan, Jeff B., Abby

Posted by: Vinny

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Great episode as always, that Dan quote at the one hour mark was hilarious 😂

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I'm a dog and I love the beastcast, but I hate dingleberries.

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Great image.

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I'm with Vinny, I also find Greedfall boring and the controls are bad.

Also watched that new video of that Resident evil game and boy does it look mediocre, I bet it is going to get a lot of 5/10 scores.

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I hope Alex plays Greedfall

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I'm glad we're getting the bathroom discussion out first.

Also I'm 100% with Abby; sit and pee, flush every time, wash your damn hands, basic bathroom etiquette. Abolish urinals honestly.

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As someone who was a janitor for years, women's washrooms are infinitely more disgusting than men's. Not saying the men's was sunshine and roses, but the women's was always way worse. I agree, sit and piss; this goes for both men and women. Fun fact: women love to squat on the toilet seat with their feet which then leads to them peeing all over the seat, floor, and basically everything. In the places I have worked this has always been the case.

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@staticfrog: Ran a bar for two years. Often cleaned the toilets. Guys toilets always roughly the same level of disgusting : piss on the floors, puke here and there, unclean bowls. Womens toilets : Usually fine, but when they were bad, they were ten times as bad. Dunno why but poop everywhere. On the seat, on the walls, on the floor. Not using the sanitary bins and bags. I would even leave spare sanitary products in a little case beside the toilet for emergencies, and I wont even get into the crazy shit that was done with them. So weird.

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Fuck Grampa Joe

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Death Stranding didn't sell itself super well in my opinion during the gameplay trailer. If the actual gameplay loop here is putting on some equipment and packages and then going hiking through an empty wasteland until you get where you're going, invading some bases along the way, then that's not exciting to me. That's some boring open world stuff with a layer of more bother on top. The sludge monster livened things up a little, but thinking about this being the Horizon Zero Dawn engine - fighting that huge tiger did not seem anywhere near as engaging as when Aloy fought it. And it was a pretty weird thing to get for being caught in stealth as well.

Kojima seems to put a big focus on the co-op aspects, but we've all played Dark Souls before. It's not some new type of strand game or whatever just because it's got white phantoms.

So I dunno. What's keeping me interested is the fact that it's Kojima. At his best I really enjoy his games' narrative, MGS3 being the peak for me. But that's a long time ago, and I'm seeing more MGS5 than MGS3 here. And Phantom Pain had one of the worst narratives.

Still, least it feels super wet. All the rainjackets and boots are taking me back to school excursions where we all had to wade through mud in the rain to get our weekly day outside. The Icelandic wasteland, while barren, looks very distinct in terms of videogame environments. It's got a unique mood, you know. That counts for something.

My complaint is not that some dudes wear skull masks lol. Interesting and fun design is one of the pluses of his games, not one of the minuses. MGS' having all this juxtaposition between serious military historical stuff with espers in gas masks and vampires and electric men is one of the things that make it fun as opposed to something like say Uncharted just having grounded-ass dudes that quip a lot. And it does treat it with just the right amount of seriousness. Compare how up its ass Horizon is about all the outrageous robotic dinosaurs and dogs to how much fun Metal Gear has with them. It's just like in my Japanese animes.

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All the various console game-sharing options are great, and another of the (current) perks of going all-digital.

My friend group and I are all paired up across them to split the costs of games, Live & PS Plus, etc since everything is shared.

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I'm never sure if dan is a smart dumb person, or a dumb smart person....?

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The dunking on Jeff from the 52 minute mark was glorious.

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Just another sunny Friday.

Always flush, wash your damn hands.

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It takes only 8 minutes into this podcast until Jeff Bakalar says the word "pee hole"

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Oh shit, who's the Letterkenny fan?! Maybe that was Jeff? "To be faaaaaair."

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i REALLY gotta stop listening to this podcast while having breakfast on fridays... still my favorite cast though!

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If Dan thinks the boss at the end of Act 2 in Gears 5 is the most bullshiat boss ever, and annoyed at having to watch the cut scene I'm guessing he'll have a ball with some of the ones at the end of Control.

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So as much of a Kojima fan as Dan is, I wonder what he thought of the Kojima part of Control?

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Never takes long to devolve into bathroom talk when Alex is gone.

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I would love to see a playdate where Abby just tries a bunch of VR fitness games. Soundboxing, Beat Saber, etc. I still think VR is the most fun way to gamify fitness. I have over 100 hours in Soundboxing, I love it.

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@subcan: You and your buds were listening to The Beastcast the other daaaaaay....

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For anyone that is interested in Wilmot's Warehouse and is a humble bundle monthly subscriber, the game is available in the Trove for free!

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I hope Norman Reedus Twitch streams the game on launch

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@bsmittel said:

If Dan thinks the boss at the end of Act 2 in Gears 5 is the most bullshiat boss ever, and annoyed at having to watch the cut scene I'm guessing he'll have a ball with some of the ones at the end of Control.

Ugh, Tomassi can go fart himself right in the dillhole. Really like that game but the end-game bosses almost stopped me from finishing it.

Ooh, and also, secondary complaint: the game really backloads the weirdness. A lot of the first half of that game is just running around and doing gun shooting. It's not until the Containment sector that it starts to get really bonkers. Wish they had more evenly distributed that stuff.

Edit: I'm getting the same stuttering as Jeff. GTX 1080, 16gb RAM, Ryzen 2700x. Annoying as hell.

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There's a place on Reddit where all the Grandpa Joe haters get together. https://www.reddit.com/r/grandpajoehate/

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I could live without the 22 minutes of Sims talk.

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::pops out earbud for a moment:: I would LOVE to see some pinball vids! ::crawls back into work hole::

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Dan really didn't seem sold on Death Stranding being good. Abby cut right to the fucking heart of things lol.

Edit: Hard disagree on Dan saying Kojima stuff works more often than it doesn't. He is a pretty bad storyteller who can direct very good cutscenes. He is accidentally profound but mostly his stuff is gibberish.

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can’t remember the last time someone from GB so ineptly tried to describe a game as Vinny attempts to do with Greedfall.

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Was going to come here and ask why I wasn't getting the premium beastcast but now all I can think of is average peehole height to toilet distances.

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Dan's apprehensive ignorance of all things Android is simply astounding.

EDIT: I am impressed that he remembered the existence of Retro Game Master and its relation to GCCX tho!

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People absolutely do stream pinball on Twitch, the stream layout issue is not an unsolvable problem.

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Bianca’s wrong about Kait’s hair it’s like not an uncommon lesbian haircut. Albeit a bit much

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@bsmittel said:

If Dan thinks the boss at the end of Act 2 in Gears 5 is the most bullshiat boss ever, and annoyed at having to watch the cut scene I'm guessing he'll have a ball with some of the ones at the end of Control.

Dan has already beaten Control and hasn't made any mention of the bosses as far as I remember, so guessing he didn't have much trouble with them.

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Bianca’s wrong about Kait’s hair it’s like not an uncommon lesbian haircut. Albeit a bit much

I'm pretty sure there is no such thing as a lesbian haircut. Unless there is a homosexual, straight, bi, trans categories of hair styles as well.

I'm not very educated when it comes to hair.

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I love how Abby always gets really skeptical about Kojima and Metal Gear, sometimes it's ok to have fun.
As soon as it was revealed that Death Stranding is some kind of hiking simulator i was sold, i'm always interested in fresh new gaming experiences, be it Truck Simulator or a new Rayman i want to see it, and the weirder the better it only makes it more memorable.

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Watching 50 minutes of Death Stranding gameplay in a language you don't speak while relying on YouTube's auto-translated subtitles sounds like a good way to simulate dropping acid.

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Does Abby like Fool on the Hill cause Björk covered?

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Yeah we're gonna need a pinball stream immediately

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Hot take maybe? Kojima is maybe the most over hyped game dev out there.

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Maybe it was because I could actually understand Kojima's Japanese commentary during the gameplay, but Death Stranding didn't seem all that complicated as a concept, and I don't really get all the confusion over it. I'll certainly eat my words if I'm wrong, but it essentially seems like Kojima saw the game Journey and wanted to make that with his own story and other weird ass experimental game mechanics.

The focus was entirely on the asynchronous cooperation with other players, even making "likes" into currency and seemingly every aspect of the game being shareable with other players (sign posts, travel paths, traversal tools, large scale construction, etc). He claimed that what he showed was the "boring" parts of the game, with a lot more exciting scenes not being shown; but I think he did this because ultimately, it's just dressing on the core concept of his "strand" thing, which is just a silly way of saying "connections you feel with people". It seems to be an entirely emotion-focused game, with them spending so much time talking about the pacing (both hectic action and relaxing pauses) and the cinematography involved in the part where they finally reach the next city (he was also complaining about impatient gamers just speeding down the hill on the motorcycle; he clearly wants people to take their time with this).

Do I think it's good? I have no idea tbh, because these types of games surely will affect people in vastly different ways. Also, I get the feeling that this will live or die entirely depending on how much the players are willing to take part in this almost social experiment-like role playing. I don't think Kojima's a particularly good story teller, but he sure likes to try interesting experimental narratives.

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@meierthered:

There was a time when side mullets, undercuts, halfshaves and buzz cuts were classified as “lesbian haircuts” they’re were not only big in our community but basically exclusives although in the last decade that’s somewhat changed. Kaits undercut x semi side flip and rat tail would be everywhere in the gay community circa 2011.

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It is insane to me how they have essentially the same conversations about Kojima and Metal Gear every single time they talk about Kojima and/or Metal Gear.

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@dezvous: the ones I'm thinking of are considered optional, so I wonder if he saw the credits or he "beat" it ;)

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Team sit to pee reporting in.

If you're not at a urinal, why splash all over the fuckin place? At home, never having to clean the outside of the toilet is nice.

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I love Kingdom Hearts. Please make fun of it.