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The Giant Beastcast: Episode 234

This week we borrow Mike for his impressions on Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order, we've got some thoughts on Kingdom Hearts 3, and we also discuss the benefits of a personal office versus a personal bathroom. Oh and that new Sonic looks ok, right?

The Giant Bomb East team gathers to talk about the week in video games, their lives, and basically anything that interests them. All from New York City!

Nov. 15 2019

Cast: Vinny, Alex, Dan, Mike, Jeff B., Abby

Posted by: Vinny

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Exterminate all man-animals, AT WILL!

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Love me a Friday. Excited for those hot KH3 takes!

EDIT: to follow up on Vinny's statement, there's almost no FF stuff in KH3 (which I know bothered some fans). I suspect that with how large their roster of original characters had gotten they felt like they didn't need to cram the FF peeps in there on top of that.

Also please at some point if you have Austin in the studio ask him if he's game to answer all of Dan's KH questions.

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Another Film & 40's. How can this be?

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That new Star Wars game is really good but yeah it needs some patching on both pc and consoles.

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Vinny should give Waypoint's Lore Reasons a listen for that expert Kingdom Hearts story explainer :)
or this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiHufVEc7g

Also quick one on KH voice actors, Woods does play Hades in KH3; also most likely the reason Phil was not voiced was because the Japanese voice actor passed during development, not necessarily because they couldn't find a DeVito sound-alike.

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Are we supposed to just pretend that Mahardy hasn't secretly joined the GB staff? Because we're on to you sir.

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Great show as always! We don't need that apostrophe on "impressions" in the description.

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Alex, James Woods absolutely does play Hades in that game. Which is...yuck, but yeah.

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So wait, Mahardy kinda got sidetracked during the Star Wars conversation when the bosses came up, only mentioning there were minibosses that gave you a full skillpoint and that they deviate from Souls on that. Did they get down the Souls level design and progression but skimped out on putting in all those bosses?

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@elby: this bugs me so much

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Dan not grasping Kingdom hearts and saying its convoluted and long cut scenes but call metal gear greatest story ever told breaks my brain.

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To stay sane, skip the kingdom hearts talk.

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why dont you guys do video?

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Fowre shidders teh teuww!!

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I tried to give Kingdom Hearts 3 a shot but the combat was so awful I just couldn't stomach it anymore. I dreaded every combat encounter at a point. The novelty of the magical train stuff fades quick.

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I know nothing about adding an x to a name and being a nobody.

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REALLY glad Mike brought up RDR2, I have been so stunned again by the PC version, most notably the stuff Dan hated with the control/game sluggishness, inherently sped up by pc horsepower with framerates, and yeah, the controls with a mouse almost change the game into such a faster-paced run and gun experience, even compared to the auto-aim all the way up controller route. I dunno, I swap back and forth and even at times move with controlstick and aim with the mouse, I have found though that overall, the framerate up on PC by itself makes everything down to moving arthur is much snappier from input to action. I really think Dan should try it out.

Also it has as of this comment some amazing PC mods where you can, like GTA, change into anything in the game (don't try this and go online, or at all, the RGSC launcher detects and threatens a ban, but going to the saloon as a moose is pretty awesome.)

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Dan is so spot on about Jeff. Dude comes off "elite" as fuck this week a lot.

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This episode had the Outer Wilds appreciation my body _craved_.

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I understood that in Russian names the second syllable is stressed, which would make Dan right? (Mo-LO-tov as opposed to MO-lo-tov)

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All you need to explain the disney shit in Kingdom Hearts is to say: it's a multiverse where each Disney movie has it's own world, and there are some other unique worlds too. Boom. Done.

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It always feels like I played a different game when people complain about Control's combat. Only one encounter gave me trouble in that game and when I started making better use of my abilities I completely smoked the boss. Nothing else remotely came close to giving me trouble. The only criticism I can get behind is that enemy variety is pretty lacking and it doesn't force you to change up your rhythm or the kind of weapon you're using.

Still, it's the best combat Remedy has done to date.

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@jetbawls: Yeah, I can't really tell if she's using a different microphone, if the sound mixing is bad, bad EQ on her audio channel, or if it's just her voice, but she often sounds way louder than everyone else and with much more high frequencies that seems to often peak the audio. It's definitely uncomfortable to listen sometimes, specially when you're using good earphones.

But to be fair, the whole audio in GB content has been busted for a while. East overall sounds too loud with no dynamic and constantly peaking, West usually sounds too echoey and lower quality (but only in the studio, West audio on the podcast room sounds good).

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Should I play Jedi with a controller or mouse and keyboard?

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Is GB not covering Pokemon?

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I hope at GOTY time, the team can come up with different names for Outer Wilds and Outer Worlds when discussing them.

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@zoofame said:

Exterminate all man-animals, AT WILL!

While you were still learning to

SPELL

YOUR

NAME...

I was conquering GALAXIES!

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@jetbawls said:

Why can’t Abby talk normally? She constantly raises her shrill voice over the others. Honestly suffering physical pain here, have to skip whenever she interrupts.

Jan/Jason is a blessing; do not know why Abby is allowed to rant for long lengths on every podcast, especially when being hired as an audio producer.

If you think that the Giant Bomb podcasts have some blanket rule that audio/video producers are second-class employees whom should only speak when spoken to, which seems to be what you’re implying, I think you’re imagining that rule. Abby is being “allowed” to speak on the podcast at length because that is literally the reason she has been given a microphone. If GB deemed her input to not be necessary, I’m sure they’re more than capable of turning off the microphone she uses while at the mixing board. Evidently, they have not done this.

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@bradley: The game recommends you use a controller so it seems like that would be the better choice.

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Anyone got a time stamp on the KH stuff? I would very much like to skip it when I around to listening. Another round of "Kingdom Hearts is so confusing!" from people that have never tried is honestly just dull at this point.

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Can't believe so many Beast crew members have such objectively wrong subjective opinions on Rogue One, which is the best Star Wars film from the new batch. To say Solo is better than Rogue One is just.. I don't know what to say to that one. Dan I understand, he has terrible taste in everything as we all know, but Abby? Et tu Brutus?!

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So glad to hear everyone raving about Outer Wilds after getting back into it. Was worried it was going to be Vinny all by his lonesome praising that game come GOTY time with everyone saying they wished they had played more of it.

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It's nice that they say the name of a game before talking about it, and sometimes after, but while talking for long stretches they always say "that game," while talking about Outer Wilds I thought they were still talking about Control, or Void Bastards, it doesn't seem unreasonable to pop the name in while discussing it, instead of always saying "that game." This is a problem with EVERY podcast I listen to that talks about many games or movies, not just the Beastcast, I guess while you're in the conversation it feels natural not to say the title, but listening can be tricky.

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@epidehl: Kingdom Hearts talk starts around the 26 minute mark and goes until around the 43 minute mark. It's, uh, about what you'd expect.

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My two cents, as a Kingdom Hearts fan I enjoy it today because of nostalgia (I think that's the reason for most people in their early 20s), and the convoluted story is really entertaining just based on how mindlessly intricate it is. I've always looked past all the Disney shit not my thing. I've ran into people who try to defend it as not being hard to understand, but i can be objective that shit is poorly written but that's honestly why its good in a strange way...like Metal Gear.

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Once again, the Giant Beastcast takes on the great bathroom issues of the day, and it is glorious.

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@jetbawls: She is definitely the least knowledgeable game wise

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@trelution: I think it's much worse because he admits in this podcast specifically that he seems to know literally nothing about the game, even going so far as to admit he didnt know it wasnt turn based. It's seriously him being his old "I'm actually my father" self and judging it because be thinks it looks stupid. I would think he'd be more open to it these days but he seems just as dismissive as ever.

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@humanity said:

Can't believe so many Beast crew members have such objectively wrong subjective opinions on Rogue One, which is the best Star Wars film from the new batch. To say Solo is better than Rogue One is just.. I don't know what to say to that one. Dan I understand, he has terrible taste in everything as we all know, but Abby? Et tu Brutus?!

Rogue One is easily the best of the new films. Abby has never come across as a Star Wars fan anyways, so it's not unexpected for her to be so dismissive about it.

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Sooo so glad the beast crew are digging into outer wilds. Warms my heart.

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The intro discussion reminds me how much it drives me crazy when Ben and Jason skip the "intro" to each Asura's Wrath chapter lol

It's formatted as a playable anime! Let the intro set the mood!

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@neocalypso: Kingdom Hearts is 10x more convoluted than metal gear ever could or will be though.

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I feel like I live in a bizarro world regarding Luigi’s Mansion Dark Moon.

The general consensus is that is not good? Most critics and people I know really liked the game.

Too long? I haven’t played 3 yet, but I finished DM in under 20 hours.

Hard to know what to do? The game is missions structured and puts you in the general area you need to be and tells you what you need to accomplish. IIRC you can’t even wander that far of the path you are suppose to be on.

Did I play alternate universe DM and am now in this (the darkest of) timelines?

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@shiro2809: Yeah, I'm a Kingdom Hearts fan myself and I can certainly attest to this. Metal Gear is a four game series( I dont count 5) that was on three popular consoles at the time. Those were nice and easy to get into and could stand on their own for the most part.

Kingdom Hearts however has 13 games. Most of those games are canonical and matter to the overall story. Trying to keep up and play all those on the multitude systems they were released on, as they came out, was a fucking nightmare. I could not even do myself. Now most of them, not all, are on the PS4 and it's relatively easy to get at this point.

It's just not fair to new people trying to jump in now.