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The Giant Beastcast: Episode 243

Jeff is back from CES and oh boy does he have a lot to say about it! Listen to conversations about hockey, the latest in tech news, and prototype meat. Also, we discuss games like XCOM 2, Luigi's Mansion, and The White Door. Lastly, E3! Is it a thing anymore???? Find out now!!

The Giant Bomb East team gathers to talk about the week in video games, their lives, and basically anything that interests them. All from New York City!

Jan. 17 2020

Cast: Vinny, Alex, Jeff B., Abby

Posted by: Abby

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Bring the beastie cast.

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If Bakalar does not mention the Dabby, I am going to be upset.

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I'm all-in on prototype meat

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Hell yeah, bring on Weird TV Prototypes Chat 2020.

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1 minute 20 seconds in and we're already off to the races, hell yeah

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I have liked, commented, and subscribed to Bakalar.video

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I love the post CES podcasts.

Vegan foods have fat because people need fat to survive. You can't survive on just carbs and proteins. Nutritionally they are aiming at hitting the same as meat. The whole point is to take the place of what's already there. Envision a fatless burger.. You'd have to chug some oil on the side to make it a balanced meal if the burger itself didn't have fat in it. For meat to get its meaty flavor when you cook it, fat is also needed. You render the fat as you cook the burger and that sets off a whole bunch of reactions that are essential for a range of flavors to develop.

Secondly, the plant fats are much healthier than animal fats. Animal fats are generally the worst kinds of fat you can eat. Olive oil is pretty great. That's one of the main benefits of vegan food. There's also no cholesterol if that's a concern.

Fat is not bad for you, it's the type and amount that matters.

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was only a matter of time before we got to see Jeff lace up

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wait... Dan Luck is rubbing off onto Jeff B?!

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Jeff is back-alar bay bay! You know what that means.

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@sto_ln said:

wait... Dan Luck is rubbing off onto Jeff B?!

More like Dan is a luck vampire. With him gone, the luck will spread around again.

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Alex, I have some bad news: you’re a joke thief to yourself. You’ve made an Ice Cube 4K/8K joke like a year or two ago. No shade tho, I only remember this because that joke ranks as one of the like top 3 funniest off the cuff things I’ve heard you say.

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Vinny - Will the new Xbox support freesync?

The xbox one x already does!

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The Golden Knights were going to make Jeff their new Head Coach but he had to decline it to make it back to the Beastcast

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I've had Beyond and Impossible burger stuff. Neither tastes like real beef to me. Hell, none of the fake stuff ever does. I actually prefer veggie burgers to just lean into being veggie, let their freak veggie flag fly.

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Lol Jeff's optimism on them using betting data to do anything other than prey on the addicted is cute.

Also now I guess I hate Jeff. Tip the damn dealer.

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Regarding Pinball machines being illegal based on what I've read pinball machines did have flippers back then that you controlled. There are a number of reasons why they were considered gamble but one aspect that the courts hinged their case on was that it was not possible to play it with skill and that what was happening in the machine was random. This was proven untrue in court when they had someone demonstrate that a skilled player can reproduce the same actions and shots over and over again single-handedly making them legal again. But for some reason many machines still have a disclaimer on machines saying they are not used for gambling. Which I imagine is applied by the manufacturer to indemnify themselves.

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Oh hell yes, one of my emails finally read on the podcast!

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@merxworx01: I think part of the issue is that even though there is skill involved in pinball, they appeared to be a “game of chance” like roulette. I think a lot of early pinball games were offered in gambling parlours sorts of establishments, and got lumped in with all other machines in those establishments. It sounds like maybe at some point you could somehow “cash out” from a pinball machine if you accumulated enough extra lives/balls, but this isn’t something that has been offered in any of our lifetimes. Haven’t researched this heavily, but that’s the vibe I got at some point.

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The Golden Knights were going to make Jeff their new Head Coach but he had to decline it to make it back to the Beastcast

He's holding out for the GM job in New Jersey. Far more manageable commute.

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@bisonhero: I believe that is also part of the issue along with depending on the venue children were not barred from using them which gave politicians ammo and a narrative that kids were being exploited.

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This weeks podcast is peak Bakalar.

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Great podcast today! But with understanding on how difficult game developing is and with the delay of cyberpunk the crew was very understanding, but just last week with Alex’s comments about Tarkov. Seems kinda it’s only if it lines up with your beliefs.

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Jeff is so right about the “That Made Us” series. It’s a cool concept but I don’t think I’ll ever watch more than one episode as the style is grating and idiotic.

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Bloodborne on PC would be a dream come true, I have over 600hrs on it and will happily start over for a solid 60fps version.

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I don't think I can forgive Jeff for his XCom opinion.

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"I've had veggie ground beef that tastes like the real thing"

Lol, no you haven't. You can say it with as much surety as you like, it won't make it true.

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@dang3rdoom: The Tarkov devs chose to not build their pipeline to accommodate women character models, it wasn't important to them to do that work. Then they used their ambivalence as justification for never wanting to do that work. In general it is not actually that difficult to have a workflow that includes women characters if you plan appropriately; animations can be reused, clothing mesh just needs some slight refitting, ect. They used the mystique of game dev being hard as a blanket excuse.

The Beastcast response to the CDPR delays are under the assumption that the extra time for work will produce a better product (hopefully to meet the high expectations the hype for Cyberpunk 2077 has). And the hope that by alleviating the time pressure it will also create better work conditions. Sadly these extension delays actually cause the period of crunch you were already in to meet Deadline 1 to stretch out for the additional months to Deadline 2.

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It was a great year of games for me.

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Alex rules

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@archnite: I’ve noticed a lot of people talking about crunch in CDPR and how this shifted deadline will grind their workers to dust. Are there any articles out there detailing the working conditions in that studio? I’m curious to read up on it and find out more.

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I'm only here to comment that just as Jeff brought up the spikey things you pull up over the bottom of your shoes to help you walk on ice, I was pulling mine off from my shoes as I was standing outside. Pretty spooky!

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1:13:00 if they don't provide backwards/forwards compatibility people will feel burned buying half-step consoles causing doubt when Xbox / Playstation start releasing yearly (or bi-yearly) consoles with incremental improvements

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@archnite: So did they meet the initial deadline, or was there an instance of feature creep when the additional time was needed to account features not originally planned for?

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@humanity said:

@archnite: I’ve noticed a lot of people talking about crunch in CDPR and how this shifted deadline will grind their workers to dust. Are there any articles out there detailing the working conditions in that studio? I’m curious to read up on it and find out more.

Here is an article from Polygon about the delay and crunch time: https://www.polygon.com/2020/1/18/21071895/cyberpunk-2077-delay-crunch-cd-projekt-red.

CDPR might not be "grinding their workers to dust", however it appears the delay will not lessen crunch.

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I never liked Ska, and never saw its appeal. I am I in the minority?

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Lol at imagining Abby’s train of thought when all the old men are talking about “cool” bar ideas

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I never liked Ska, and never saw its appeal. I am I in the minority?

the genre is dead because of its unpopularity. you are in the vast majority.

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@development said:

Lol at imagining Abby’s train of thought when all the old men are talking about “cool” bar ideas

it was specifically about nostalgia, and Abby said Spice Girls and Dolly Parton.

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Does the ska bar serve reel big fishbowls?

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I love Bakalar and I'm happy he got to do a dumb, fun thing in Vegas this year. Poor Vinny kept serving up opportunities for Jeff to talk about CES stuff but all he could manage was an "okay..." or a "yeah that exists I guess". For a guy who works at CNET he sure doesn't seem to know anything about tech. Listening to this back-to-back with Brad and Will's Tech Pod is giving me whiplash.

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@kcin said:
@wardcleaver said:

I never liked Ska, and never saw its appeal. I am I in the minority?

the genre is dead because of its unpopularity. you are in the vast majority.

Sometimes, from listening to the Beastcast, I get the impression that Ska was very popular at one point. I understand it is not popular now.

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Does the ska bar serve reel big fishbowls?

Yes, and at Abby's Spice Girls bar, it is obligatory for the bartender to ask, "Tell me what you want, what you really, really want."

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Jeff "I don't tip even if I win $1,400 at Black Jack" Bakalar

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My brother tried the impossible Whopper and didn't like it at all. He loves Burger King, so it's not a case of not liking that kind of thing at all. I trust his judgment and have no desire to try that stuff myself.

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Jeff's optimism about sports gambling is hilarious. It seems like maybe sports gambling isn't as far along in the US compared to Australia and England? Because in both those places for years people have been talking about how dangerous sports gambling actually is, and how irritating the amount of advertising for it is. and also that the companies just use peoples data to keep them betting (for eg: giving a heavy better a personal assistant type person at the betting company that acts all matey, gets you free seats to games, credit on the account, basically anything to keep them betting). Sports gambling is worse than regular gambling, because at least that's tucked away where kids don't internalise it as being a normal part of liking a sport.

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it's not that odd that there's not all that much 4k television to be seen on cable. Less than 50% of the US households are able to view 4k content on their TV. These things take time. Hell, if i want to watch a livestream on the website of the public channel here, the max quality is like 530p.