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The Giant Beastcast: Episode 287

There's Crash, Fuser, Astro's Playroom, The Sims, Miles Morales, Black Ops, and more! So many games to get to, not a whole ton of news, and of course, your emails!

The Giant Bomb East team gathers to talk about the week in video games, their lives, and basically anything that interests them. All from New York City!

Nov. 19 2020

Cast: Vinny, Alex, JERF, Abby

Posted by: Vinny

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Hey-yo it’s Friday

Finally EAST got their new consoles.

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Aw, I have a beagle/rat terrier mix. She's a loon.

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Those game of the years lists are ridiculous, but Hades would hold it's own in any year. That game is incredible.

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Yeah, Darren Korb and Greg Kasavin were totally robbed on the Game Award's Best Performance. Cunninghum only nominated for Hades is a robbrey regardless. Two were from the Last of Us Part II, guess mo-cap has a leg up there, huh.

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Abby dissing Last of Us 2’s story hurt my heart. So good.

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Why are Ben and Alex convinced Yakuza is a 80-100 hour game? A main story + most sidequests playthrough would be around 50, it's still long but not quite Persona 5 length

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@scylo: It took me 75 hours to do everything in Yakuza 0, so I guess I'm somewhere in the middle.

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@scylo: If you don't waste your time walking around the city, go eat ramen, go bowling, then sing karaoke with a hostess, between each mission, are you really playing a Yakuza game though?

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Did anyone on the crew get a demo of Cyberpunk? Hope to hear their impressions if so!

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absolutely cackling at bakalars "hey... i could beat demon's souls if i wanted to" moment. lmaooo

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Dogs bringing you wounded/dead animals is very much a thing. We had a dog that would wound birds and bring them inside to play with. This was also the only dog my grandmother let into her house because she would catch a mouse or two every time we went there. Never trained it to do this, she was just a hunter from get go.

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Dogs bringing you wounded/dead animals is very much a thing. We had a dog that would wound birds and bring them inside to play with. This was also the only dog my grandmother let into her house because she would catch a mouse or two every time we went there. Never trained it to do this, she was just a hunter from get go.

Yeah same. Had an english pointer would bring me birds and basically drop them at my feet or in my lap occasionally. zero training.

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DOOM Eternal was fantastic @alex. Really rubbed me the wrong way at first, but eventually it won me over. Though I agree with the Hades nod.

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Abby can't tell a major difference between Modern Warfare and Cold War?
What?

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Mass Alex IS a revelation!

And Mass Alex: Revelations was the prequel novel.

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I'll meet the cast halfway on the PS5 design. I don't believe it's ugly, just different from the conventional look of past Playstation consoles. You have building around the world that look like the PS5, maybe that's what Sony was going for. But I do believe the original design was an all digital console with no disc drive, and it was added on last minute, because of fans complaining.

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@scylo: https://howlongtobeat.com/game?id=71931

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I found Doom Eternal SO much better than Doom 2016. It has such awesome and complex (but not complicated) gameplay. I guess a large factor there is gonna be trying to play it on a gamepad, which I think is a terrible way to play any sort of FPS, but of course it's been the norm for a while, so anything that requires more complexity than ADS and chuck a grenade (Doom was just move-n-shoot for the most part, so its simplicity still sorta worked on a gamepad) is gonna feel "bad" because gamepads simply aren't up to the task.

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So I watched this live and sat on this for a few days but decided I would say something: let's not get in the habit of comparing old, soon to be out-of-date hardware to the menopause, please?

I can't remember where it was to point it out but it's one of the most brazenly sexist remarks I've heard in some time (mainly because I've not been around people or, more specifically, many men recently).

Knowing Alex's political stances, I am sure he didn't intend for that comparison to be offensive but, nevertheless, don't compare a person's biological functions (particularly predominantly cis women's biology) to ageing hardware.

Menopausal women/people still have plenty left in the tank and their quality of life, their value and their lifespan need not be tied to their sexual reproductive capabilities nor their hormonal levels.

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Vinny complaining about the game awards having the same games in every category made me laugh a bit, it is very Oscars, but it does remind me of Giant Bomb's own awards. Not meaning to be a dick, I suspect it's a symptom of needing people to have all played the same games for them to get the votes

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@ahifi: I get what you mean, i thought Abby was going to say something about that but didn't because they're friends, i let it go because you say things when a camera is on you that you wouldn't usually say and i don't get offended by... anything really, similarly i have friends who say racist jokes all the time but that doesn't reflect their actual feelings, there's no malice behind it.

I'm on Jeff's side when it comes to Souls games, i loved Dark Souls 1 and 2 and replayed them both to feel some kind of dominance over them, which was good at the time but i'm so past that now, i need these games to have some kind of easy mode if i'm going to play them, and i've never subscribed to the idea that they HAVE to be hard, everything should be accessible to everyone in some form or another, i want your grandma to play Dark Souls.

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I totally understand Doom being on the list. Doom Eternal is freaking phenomenal.

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The only places I haven't seen DOOM Eternal get rave reviews are gaming sites. The giantbombs and gamespots of the world. when it comes to people on forums and in discord servers and shit like that people consider it leagues ahead of 2016.

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I’m officially in the bargaining phase right of dealing with Abby’s departure — maybe she can still do the Beastcast? This is actually worse than when Dan left.

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Doom eternal is goty for me , and is at an 88 on metacritic. Why is Alex so baffled lol? I get that there are some bad takes about the game , but come on guys u gave a Tetris game goty recently it's pretty ironic. But whatever complaining about something subjective is dumb I know , I just had to vent that here .

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I wonder if Alex is just burnt out on Assassins Creed and Yakuza games. I personally didn’t get that into either AC:O and I’m really loving Valhalla. I think the setting is more interesting and there’s actually a decent story there. I also haven’t played that much of the Yakuza games besides Judgment and I am really enjoying Like a Dragon.

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Doom Eternal both scored and sold better than its predecessor, with an 88 on metacritic for the PC version versus an 85. While I know it definitely rubbed some people the wrong way, especially those expecting something more similar to the (frankly, pretty breakable, balance-wise) 2016 game, I absolutely loved D:E and think its one of the best shooters of all time. Mechanically I think its close to flawless.

Alex thinking Eternal is poorly regarded does kind of show how insular the team can be at times, and I don't mean that as an insult or even think its a bad thing in this case, just a funny quirk of the internet.

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Nobody willing to talk about how much of a disaster these new console launches has been? Sad..

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For anyone looking to get a 120hz VRR TV, all the current VRR TVs flicker when the refresh rate varies. It may be a hardware problem that can’t be fixed with firmware, but that’s not certain. It may be worth waiting to see if next years models fix that. It blindsided me with the LG CX because it wasn’t mentioned in any reviews.

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@ahifi said:

So I watched this live and sat on this for a few days but decided I would say something: let's not get in the habit of comparing old, soon to be out-of-date hardware to the menopause, please?

I can't remember where it was to point it out but it's one of the most brazenly sexist remarks I've heard in some time (mainly because I've not been around people or, more specifically, many men recently).

Knowing Alex's political stances, I am sure he didn't intend for that comparison to be offensive but, nevertheless, don't compare a person's biological functions (particularly predominantly cis women's biology) to ageing hardware.

Menopausal women/people still have plenty left in the tank and their quality of life, their value and their lifespan need not be tied to their sexual reproductive capabilities nor their hormonal levels.

I see you with this, and I'm with you on it. The comment surely didn't intend any malice, but of course it should be noted to aspire to do better.

Much love to all.

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@csl316: This is a really good comment; thank you for making it.

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DOOM Eternal is absolutely deserving of being on the GoTY list. It’s brilliant. Don’t understand why GB have such a strong disliking of it. I think it improved on the fantastic DOOM 2016 in just about every way.

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I'm glad they're extending GOTY since Cyberpunk will totally come out on December 10th and not be delayed til next year.

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@cikame said:

i have friends who say racist jokes all the time but that doesn't reflect their actual feelings, there's no malice behind it.

Yikes.

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@pearsonpark: I feel like when Dan left at least there was the four others. But with only two full on GB staffers it will feel emptier for sure

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I think the DOOM Eternal makes a lot of sense. Feels like GB was more sour on that game than the average games outlet.

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So crazy that Abby nailed it with what she said of the Souls games. After that first 15 hour hump of learning and building your character they get so much easier and fun.

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I think the ps5 looks pretty neat, I really like it. Looks like one of those mid 2000s futuristic designs.

Edit: for Bakalar, I'd say reroll as either a Knight or Temple Knight. They're tankier and might fit you better than starting w/ a more dex based character so you won't have to rely on fast rolling and parying to avoid attacks. Their starter shields also block 100% physical damage. Shed some of the armour to fast roll if ya want, under %50% is a fast roll, over 50% is a fat roll. Apart from that just go slow and keep your shield up and you won't get blindsided by much. Learn enemies attacks as you meet them too instead of rushing in to kill them asap.

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outside of these early 'tech demos', i still don't see much long-term significance or use of the dualsense. it's the same usual bs we see with controllers.

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I really like Alex, but sometimes he can be so pretentious. Doom: Eternal is considered to be an excellent game, Alex. Just because no one you "know" is in to it, doesn't make it bad.

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Jeff talking about Demon's Souls was somehow... aggravating? Not because I disagree with anything he said. It's more that it felt like he had no idea what he wanted to say, and ended up rambling without really making a point. It was very weird.

I'm listening to this late, and the Game Awards already aired by now, but why the hell was FF7R in Best Narrative? Not only is that narrative 23 years old, but it's not even the full narrative from the original! Ridiculous.

The awards being the same game in every category are just how awards go. If it's in the running for "best" game, then why wouldn't it also be in the running for best other things? Wouldn't an overall best game also be a top contender for best gameplay, sound, graphics, etc? Of course, you'll get some divergence if you make specific categories like indie game and such, but that's about it. It's why all award shows are dumb.