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The Giant Beastcast: Episode 294

We came back from our break excited to have a normal podcast talking about some games, pinball, and old movies. We get there.

The Giant Bomb East team gathers to talk about the week in video games, their lives, and basically anything that interests them. All from New York City!

Jan. 7 2021

Cast: Vinny, Alex, Jeff B.

Posted by: Vinny

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I AM THE ONE WHO IS FIRST

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I CLAIM THE POSITION OF SECOND.

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Being third ain't so bad

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I AM THE FOURTH HORSEM-- er... cool! New Beastcast!

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Love you guys <3

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I was going to have a pleasant listen to a video game podcast and then it hit me within eight minutes that I'm going to start over and wait for my wife to listen this video game podcast because damn. Thank you all so much for using your voice. 2021 sucks. Give me, I don't know, goddamn 2019 back.

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Anyone who's mad at this, GTFO. You won't be missed at all.

Love this place!

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Someone please calculate the total load of 7 pinball machines for Bakalar

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I mean, they'd be nuts to try and ignore what happened yesterday. It was major international news and is now a permanent part of America's long and twisted history. You can't just sweep that under the rug and keep on with the vidja games. So props for handling this impossible situation as well as they could. Much love from this longtime GB fan <3

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Appreciate you guys touching on the Capitol Hill incident yesterday, I know usually you all stay out of political stuff cause games are meant to be an escape but damn, some events simply can't be ignored.

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I am pretty psyched Alex is watching Serial Experiments Lain. It has been a favorite show of mine since I was a teenager. Always nice to see new people discover it.

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Holy Shit Alex is watching Serial Experiments: Lain!

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Thank you so much Vinny. It has to be said.

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How come you guys didn't speak out about anti-Kavanaugh protestors storming the senate offices and chasing down senators in hallways and elevators two years ago?

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Glad y'all touched on the Capital Hill stuff, was nice to know it wasn't just me who was furious. Seeing all the images and video from that really fucked me up mentally. As Alex said, it was shocking but not surprising - of course if you feed people lies and whip them into a frenzy for years, those chickens will eventually come home to roost.

On the games front, I was super stoked to hear @vinny played There is no Game! I finished it a couple days ago, and weirdly enough, one of my first thoughts was "this totally seems like it would be up Vinny's alley". I already made my GOTY list on the site, but I actually might sneak that game on there, I adored it. It pumps more clever ideas into 5 hours than most 50 hour games do, and it is legitimately VERY funny. One of my coworkers also played it with their kids, and their family enjoyed it a lot too! I hadn't thought about the analogy of kid's books that strike a similar tone, but you're totally right.

Also...yes, strangely enough, there is a narrative justification for the state of undress of the pilots in 13 Sentinels. Honestly, most of the stuff in that game happens for a reason, but that's all I'll say.

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Lots of love from the Netherlands. Keep fighting the good fight, folks.

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If there was anything good about yesterday, it defined things for people, here and abroad, about what has been happening, word and deed, for the past 4 years. Pictures, and by extension video, says as much as words. And there has been a lot of that.

It also occurred to me that many of those individuals were maybe 'gamers". Lol.

Also hope it goes well for all of you concerning your transitioning to Red Ventures.

Edit, as for Dick Tracy, I remember the original. It was always interesting artwork, bullets leaving holes in people, and had a real right wing bent. So did little Orphan Annie. I was recently following the new Dick Tracy comic on Microsoft news, and it was also pretty fantastical. Orphan Annie has found a home there, friends with some 16 year old girl with antennae named Honeymoon (no clue) But I stopped reading when the comic strip started depicting drug dealers as Vietnam Vets were once depicted; long hair, military coats with peace signs, and burned out visages.

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I mentioned this on twitter but I’ll do it again here.
I love GB and I’ve been a paid subscriber since day one. I will probadly get called names by my comment but Vinny’s rant is soooo hypocritical. You literally have one person of color in your crew. You also have only had one girl in all Giant Bomb’s existence and she was pretty much pushed out by your audience. Do better and maybe I’ll respect your sanctimonious rant.

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No quite the contrary, I love inside baseball!

This sounds like a shit show!

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@spiffers: If there's any morality in these damned forums this person should be banned and not allowed back. I'm beyond sick of what's allowed to quietly fester here in the name of civility.

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@vizruy: And how is any of that Vinny's fault? He doesn't run GB you know. He doesn't make hiring decisions (though I'm sure his opinions are taken into consideration) nor does he make firing decisions I'm sure. And a sanctimonious rant? How does going after insurrectionists make him sanctimonious?

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Don't know why Vinyl compared this government insurrection to a third-world country when America were involved in those too

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@vizruy: They're last four hires were Austin Walker, Ben Pack, Abby Russell, and Jan Ochea.

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This episode was a Giant Bomb...

Fight for freedom and truth!

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The tone of the intro is 100% where I'm at. Just... what the fucking fuck, we're tired of all this shit.

Alex, as a corporate accountant, I appreciate you taking the step to look out for them with your expense reports.

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@drdarkstryfe

I’ve worked as a minority in corporate America since 1997. With positions at international banks in Wall Street and PWC. So, I have a ton of experience on this: The fact that there’s so much turnover when it comes to their minority hires is red-flag and should at least be looked at.

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@vizruy: You're only looking at front facing employees.

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Very passionate start, and yeah.. I'm completely shocked.

Thank you discussing the Double G, and not whole-sale blaming the whole event on GG.

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rorie  Staff

Alright, I'm just going to go ahead and say that we'll be treating any more talk about GB's hiring practices as off-topic for the purposes of this thread. And before anyone gets on me about not wanting to have that discussion, keep in mind that I spent almost an entire week staying up until 4 AM discussing these issues with community members when the Dan and Jason hires happened in threads like this one, and have been in plenty of other threads about it since. It's a valid discussion and you're welcome to have it in the forums or PMing Vinny/Jeff but it's off-topic here so take it elsewhere.

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@vizruy said:

@drdarkstryfe

I’ve worked as a minority in corporate America since 1997. With positions at international banks in Wall Street and PWC. So, I have a ton of experience on this: The fact that there’s so much turnover when it comes to their minority hires is red-flag and should at least be looked at.

lol... Mr. Bad Faith has entered the chat.

Austin left because he was given the opportunity to run his own site. He's never given the slightest indication he felt unwelcome or got pushed out.

Perhaps the community was a factor in Abby leaving, but she has said nothing about problems with the staff. And she's not exactly shy.

Troll harder, chief.

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Both of you need to cool it if you want to remain in this thread.

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Thank you for this opening. As hard as it was to listen to, it's necessary.

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@spiffers said:

How come you guys didn't speak out about anti-Kavanaugh protestors storming the senate offices and chasing down senators in hallways and elevators two years ago?

it's almost as if there's a difference between trying to keep senators accountable for putting a rapist on the Supreme Court and a bunch of fucking fascists throwing a temper tantrum because their Daddy Trump didn't win the election

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@vizruy: Guess what, this isn't a free country. It's their site, their rules. Don't like it, don't come here anymore? And before you question me, yes I'd say it if they said the same thing about something important to me etc. It's their website, not mine or yours.

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Thank you for doing this and being there in these unprecedented times. You could easily just have postponed this episode. Again, thank you for bringing some semblance of regularity to this crazy world.

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@vizruy: White nationalists telling you that when you are at a BLM protest is one thing though. And they can fuck right off, since it IS your right to protest. And you should protest, considering the bullshit garbage dumpster fire the US police system is. However, again this isn't a free country/website (and I hate saying that again lol) it is theirs and they have rules everyone has to follow etc as I'm sure you'd expect. And don't get me wrong, you pointing out things you feel important to you about GB is fine and all that - but not when Rorie etc have said no more discussion on that subject and what not.

If you have further complaints or worries about the thing you brought up, I say go for it, but like Rorie said, do it in the forums, in private or email etc. And again, fuck white nationalists. Just sayin.

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So as a staunch “never Trump” Republican who was heartbroken by what happened yesterday I’m just curious (and I’m really hoping I can get a good faith reply here) why comparing the Capital riots and the riots over police brutality is self-evidently erroneous.

You might believe protesting police brutality is more virtuous then the election outcome but it doesn’t change the fact that both events escalated to the point of inexcusable violence (I however do agree with Vinny that the Presidents rhetoric directly inspired yesterday’s riots and that is reprehensible)

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Yo... The Storming of the Capitol Building is gonna make a great Hitman 4 level.