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Game of the Year 2018: Day Five Deliberations

This is it, our discussions around Best Story, Best Ongoing Game, Best Looking, Most Disappointing, and our top 10 games of the year.

Discover the best and worst games of the year with your friends from Giant Bomb.

Dec. 28 2018

Posted by: Brad

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hassun • 

What a year it's been. See you all in 2019!

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Here we go folks! It's been a pretty positive experience so far this year so let's see if it keeps up!

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Edited By mrbubbles • 

6 hours. holy shit. spoiler, best game is metal gear survive

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GB staff did 6 hour podcasts 5 days a week for our sins.

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Edited By creutzfeldt • 

No. 1 is the best video game idea ever conceived coupled with the best aesthetics. I can get behind this.

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I was sorting through my equipment in Emerald, and a young man came up to me, asking me to find his dog. After finding it, petting it, and bringing it back to him, the man became abusive to the dog, threatening to 'stomp on its paws' if it didn't come to him for a scolding. The dog, cautious and whimpering, runs off and leaves the town for good, forced to choose to risk its own life in the wild for what was perhaps once a safe and warm home.

Playing as Arthur Morgan, how many would choose to shoot this man right where he stood? How many would wrangle him in a lasso and drag him for a country mile?

How many would be at all surprised or exceptionally disappointed to know that this dirtbag of an NPC was untargetable, un-lassoable, and unkillable? He survived being trampled by my horse a dozen times, which was just long enough for all the hate I had for this NPC to be transferred from him, to the game itself.

Red Dead Redemption 2 robbed me of my just vengeance and took away my agency, this being just one of a dozen times.

And the dog disappeared into the woods.

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Hey, Iconoclasts should be mentioned in the best story category. Its story is actually really good. Oh wait, you seemed to have forgot about that game altogether. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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The part in Red Dead Redemption 2 in Chapter 4 where Arthur talks to Native Americans and won't help them until he gets offered payment and compares their persecution to him and his gang's is the part that cemented that this dude isn't actually that interested in being a good person and it isn't until he realizes he's going to die that he starts actively helping other people which is real fucking cheap.

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This video is really making me want to see an East vs West for Raindbow Six Siege.

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Back-to-back-to-back 6 hour podcasts, holy crap. Between the deliberations & top 10 lists, I've spent half of my week off with Giant Bomb GOTY.

Love every minute of it, thanks to the entire Bomb Crew & looking forward to catching up on a ton of games recommended throughout the last week!

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I found #1 to be really, really, disappointing. I would have taken literally any other game in the top five over it and I only actually played half of them.

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6 hours🤖!? "By the power of Grayskull..." man.

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Whatever happens, this has been my favorite year of deliberations since I started watching/listening. Such great discussions and a great look back at the year, everyone involved should be proud of these episodes.

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It's a shame that Florence failed to hang in the Most Story category.

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man GOTY has just become, Try those games you passed up, they're great or have been fixed!

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Does anyone have a time stamp for when best story ends?

Edit: Nvm I found it. It’s at 54:14

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Time stamps for this content would have been awesome.

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As much as I love the giantbomb content I don’t always have the time to listen to everything that gets put out.

Time stamps to be able to skip ahead to the categories that I’m most interested in without having to skip through (and possibly spoil) content from other lists I’m not ready to listen to yet.

Is there a reason time stamps aren’t provided?

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@papadopus: For the video version:

1:47 Best story

53:!4 Best ongoing game

1:48:53 Best looking game

2:36:55 Most dissappointing

3:53:17 Top 10 games of the year

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Edited By Milkman • 

I did this last year and figured I'd do it again for fun this year. Here are Giant Bomb's top 10 games of the year based on science (i.e. putting all the individual staff lists together as a weighted list).

1. Tetris Effect

2. Dead Cells

3. God of War

4. Marvel's Spider-Man

5 & 6. Red Dead Redemption 2/Into the Breach

7. Hitman 2

8. Return of the Obra Dinn

9. Monster Hunter: World

10. Dragon Ball FighterZ/Destiny 2: Forsaken

The numbers were extremely close this year. Tetris ended up edging Dead Cells by just 1 point, which in turn beat God of War by just 2 points.

And now seeing what the list actually ended up being, this is shockingly accurate, which is very surprising considering how different last year's was.

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Wow, RDR 2 was robbed in the best looking category. I'm with Brad on that one.

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Edited By QStealth • 

Can we get a counter for how many times vehemently is said?

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Edited By doncabesa • 

Sea of Thieves getting most disappointing is ludicrous. They never touched it after release and ignored the vast amount of stuff they added into it for free throughout the year.

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The Most Disappointing part was enjoyable viewing to say the least.

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Read Dead 2 was just a bad game.

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Good to see RDR2 in most disappointing, can't care about your frankly just okay story and writing when you didn't bother to craft a video game around it. Not gonna be happy to get the best parts of your game from a youtube video.

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Best Ongoing Game Splatoon Twooooooooooo

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Having listened to most of the GOTY stuff at this point I gotta say I would've preferred having these last 12 hours spread out over the 5 days. I've ended up having to listen to all the casts in bite-size anyways due to the length, and the novelty of the end-of-year recap already got stale by day 3. Maybe instead of covering all the games before doing deliberations you could do one day with the games worth talking about that won't make any categories.

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Edited By PedroTeixeira • 

To everyone that thanked me for these timestamps over the week: you're welcome, and I hope y'all enjoyed the awards!

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Timestamps for the free version of the podcast:

00:00:00 - A message from Jeff

00:01:03 - Podcast starts

00:02:44 - Best Story

  • 00:04:10 - HITMAN 2

  • 00:06:19 - Marvel’s Spider-Man

  • 00:19:13 - Quarantine Circular

  • 00:23:45 - Donut County

  • 00:24:55 - Florence

  • 00:27:55 - Marvel’s Spider-Man

  • 00:28:56 - God of War (2018)

  • 00:38:07 - Yakuza 6: The Song of Life

  • 00:42:31 - Return of the Obra Dinn

  • 00:47:47 - Red Dead Redemption 2

00:54:12 - Best Ongoing Game

  • 00:55:23 - Pokémon Go

  • 00:56:23 - Overwatch

  • 00:59:25 - TEKKEN 7

  • 01:01:04 - Dota 2

  • 01:04:14 - Rocket League

  • 01:04:55 - PLAYERUNKNOWN'S BATTLEGROUNDS

  • 01:07:53 - Fortnite

  • 01:12:37 - Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege

  • 01:25:00 - MONSTER HUNTER: WORLD

  • 01:26:05 - The Sims 4

  • 01:29:03 - Destiny 2

  • 01:33:16 - Forza Horizon 4

  • 01:34:55 - TEKKEN 7

  • 01:38:34 - Overwatch

  • 01:39:03 - Fortnite

  • 01:40:38 - Destiny 2

  • 01:43:19 - Final discussion

01:49:44 - First break

01:50:06 - Best Looking

  • 01:51:07 - ASTRO BOT Rescue Mission

  • 01:51:19 - Wreckfest

  • 01:51:37 - Sea of Thieves

  • 01:52:18 - Marvel’s Spider-Man

  • 01:53:47 - HITMAN 2

  • 01:55:32 - Battlefield V

  • 01:57:01 - Spyro Reignited Trilogy

  • 01:57:15 - Frostpunk

  • 01:57:33 - Far Cry 5, Unravel Two

  • 01:58:17 - DRAGON BALL FighterZ

  • 01:58:34 - God of War (2018)

  • 01:59:46 - Tetris Effect

  • 02:00:11 - Assassin’s Creed: Odyssey

  • 02:00:41 - Pokémon Let’s Go!

  • 02:02:10 - Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

  • 02:02:39 - Octopath Traveler

  • 02:03:07 - Shadow of the Colossus (2018)

  • 02:03:32 - Detroit: Become Human

  • 02:06:35 - Forza Horizon 4

  • 02:08:23 - Marvel’s Spider-Man

  • 02:08:45 - Battlefield, and Forza

  • 02:11:00 - DRAGON BALL FighterZ

  • 02:13:06 - Performance and HDR modes

  • 02:17:36 - Choosing the top 3

  • 02:25:51 - Final discussion

02:37:57 - Most Disappointing

  • 02:38:29 - Super Mario Party

  • 02:39:01 - Nintendo Labo

  • 02:39:50 - The Crew 2

  • 02:40:36 - FIGHTING EX LAYER

  • 02:40:47 - Mario Tennis Aces

  • 02:41:15 - A Way Out

  • 02:42:30 - Fallout 76

  • 02:44:46 - Far Cry 5

  • 02:45:00 - Shadow of the Tomb Raider

  • 02:45:45 - METAL GEAR SURVIVE

  • 02:46:48 - The Fall Part 2: Unbound

  • 02:47:42 - Red Dead Redemption 2

  • 03:01:16 - Removing some games

  • 03:02:00 - We Happy Few

  • 03:04:15 - Fallout 76

  • 03:08:11 - A Way Out

  • 03:09:24 - Sea of Thieves

  • 03:10:52 - Red Dead Redemption 2

  • 03:19:19 - Fallout 76

  • 03:21:38 - Choosing the top 3

03:53:15 - Second break

03:54:42 - Best Game

  • 03:56:02 - Every one picks one game they think belongs in the final list

  • 03:59:21 - Burnout Paradise Remastered

  • 03:59:38 - Super Mario Party

  • 03:59:52 - BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle

  • 04:00:07 - Pokémon Let’s Go!

  • 04:00:29 - Mega Man 11

  • 04:01:06 - EXAPUNKS

  • 04:01:24 - Choosing more games to discuss later

  • 04:02:33 - Fire Pro Wrestling World

  • 04:02:47 - Donut County

  • 04:03:40 - Cutting games

  • 04:04:33 - Finding a top 11

  • 04:06:28 - HITMAN 2

  • 04:08:17 - MONSTER HUNTER: WORLD

  • 04:09:30 - Call of Duty: Black Ops IIII

  • 04:10:00 - Finding a top 10

  • 04:19:47 - They couldn’t find a top 10, but they order the 11 games and try to remove one

  • 04:44:32 - The top 10 is chosen, now to re-order them

  • 04:54:30 - The bottom 5 games are locked, and a third break

  • 04:55:06 - Red Dead Redemption 2

  • 05:27:28 - Finding a position for RDR2

  • 05:45:04 - Tetris Effect

  • 05:54:23 - Dead Cells

  • 05:55:26 - They start to accept the ordering

  • 06:01:38 - The list is locked! \o/

06:03:07 - Game of the Year 2018 ends!

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Edited By SilverSaint • 

I'm shocked Dan was able to get RDR 2 on most disappointing where it belongs.

Recency Bias is so frustrating for these lists as if GoW and RDR 2 were released at each others times Brad would of finished GoW as its new and it would of been fresh in his mind while RDR 2 would of had time to mellow. Meanwhile Abby would of gotten out of the high point of RDR 2 (Chapter 3/4) and seen the dip in chapter 5 and 6.

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Man, I know I will never agree with GB's lists and I'm only listening to these for the discussion, but Brad's stockholm syndrome for RDR2 makes this just as rough to listen to as the year Destiny got GOTY ;3

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Kiwami 2 (tied with Zero as the best Yakuza game) is better than Yakuza 6. Weird hearing all the arguments for 6 when it is one of the weaker ones in the series. Granted, mainline Yakuza games are fantastic.

Overall the new format is good. They did repeat arguments but for something new, it worked.

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RDR2 being on anyone's most disappointing is just absurd. It is far & away the best game of the year and hearing the shallow complaints against it make me question the general video game playing public. I guess challange & intricate world building with impactful stories are just too much for most people.

Gamespot knows it.

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@milkman said:

Edited By Milkman

I did this last year and figured I'd do it again for fun this year. Here are Giant Bomb's top 10 games of the year based on science (i.e. putting all the individual staff lists together as a weighted list).

1. Tetris Effect

2. Dead Cells

3. God of War

4. Marvel's Spider-Man

5 & 6. Red Dead Redemption 2/Into the Breach

7. Hitman 2

8. Return of the Obra Dinn

9. Monster Hunter: World

10. Dragon Ball FighterZ/Destiny 2: Forsaken

The numbers were extremely close this year. Tetris ended up edging Dead Cells by just 1 point, which in turn beat God of War by just 2 points.

And now seeing what the list actually ended up being, this is shockingly accurate, which is very surprising considering how different last year's was.

I also did this using the 15 to 6 point system instead of a 10 to 1 point system. which is what old great vv critics polls used to use a point distribution system.

1Tetris Effect75
2Dead Cells73
3Spider Man70
4God of War62
5Red Dead Redemption 260
6Hitman 247
7Into The Breach41
8Return of the Obra Dinn38
9Dragon Ball Fighterz29
10Monster Hunter World29
11Donut County25
12Destiny 2: Forsaken24
13Forza Horizon 421
14Astro Bot Rescue Mission18
15BlazBlue Cross Tag17
16BLOPS415
17Exapunks15
18Super Mario Party15
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Edited By doncabesa

Sea of Thieves getting most disappointing is ludicrous. They never touched it after release and ignored the vast amount of stuff they added into it for free throughout the year.

Agreed.

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I agree with some of Alex’s criticism of RDR 2’s indigenous characters. Rain’s Falls and Eagle Flies aren’t really characters, only representations of the two types of resistance many tribes were forced to take during this time, survive or rebel. Plus, being indigenous myself, their names are just eye rollingly bad.

Don’t agree with the white savior stereotype that Alex brought up in his review though. Initially it does seem like that is the way the game is going but in the end you, the white savior, make a bad situation worse. Rockstar turned the trope on it’s head.

Also don’t see the criticism of Charles either. Aside from the trope of him being a “halfbreed” (even this is a bit of a twist as his non-native half isn’t white but black) I don’t see any real issues with him. He’s the one who actually helps Rains Falls tribe, not Arthur. Charles doesn’t talk in a stereotypical manner, he has great dialog and character arc, especially in the epilogue.

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I never thought I'd say this, but this is too much content.

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@crztox: Haha, it’s like we’re the gluttony guy from Seven.

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Edited By briarpack • 

Most Disappointing is fucking intense, I've smoked like half a pack of cigarettes while listening to this. I've come to respect @danryckert in a way I didn't think possible. Editorial Dan is Best Dan of 2018.

100% the right call on Best Looking.

Usually I'm more displeased with these categories, but this year has pretty much matched my feelings. I still have Best Game to go, but as long as Monster Hunter: World makes that list, I think they've pretty much nailed it.

Well, Thronebreaker got completely overlooked, but shit happens.

Edit: Thank you @vinny for being a voice of reason and @unastrike for being fun and bringing levity to these grueling discussions, I'm happy for you ^.^

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Edited By doncabesa

Sea of Thieves getting most disappointing is ludicrous. They never touched it after release and ignored the vast amount of stuff they added into it for free throughout the year.

Maybe it should have been a better game at launch...

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