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Giant Bombcast 521: On the Devil's Level

This week we're obligated to dive deep on the entirety of Metal Gear Survive, plus Into the Breach, Hunt: Showdown, Activision moving and shaking, Switch homebrew, illicit GameStop goings-on, and the class conflict of PapaPriority.

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Feb. 27 2018

Cast: Jeff, Brad, Ben, Jason, Jan

Posted by: Jan

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Sweet Christmas that was fast...

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Very interested in Hunt: Showdown but it's Crytek so wait and see.

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@hassun: I've played a few matches and it's great. Very intense and well made. Only time will tell if the community stays active , that's my concern.

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All systems Bombcast!

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Hot take: I’m playing Metal Gear Survive and it’s fine.

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Is the title a reference to dasharez0ne? I really hope so!

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WOO!

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yeeee!!!

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Missed it live cause I was sleeping.

WELL DONE, ANDREW >_<

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Family Matters Kai

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....I like Metal Gear Survive

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Nice memes Jeff

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I played Rock Manager. You were getting a band together, deciding which instruments they play and which songs they record. You were mostly sliding pitch up or down and adding some effects to the songs. Another big part of the game was to make album art for the songs.

Supermarket lovewas the most memorable song to me. Starring fake Oasis.

As far as i know it, this has always been a budget product. The kind of game you fish out of a bargain bin for 5$.

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@scojoe66 said:

....I like Metal Gear Survive

I keep finding myself up until like 4am playing it.

It seems like Jeff was looking to see what Metal Gear Solid could be without Kojima, and it was never trying to be that. It was trying to be Dragon Quest Builders but with Metal Gear.

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The final boss of FTL isn't as impossible as Brad makes it out to be, it's just extremely unfair the first time you reach it. It has 3 forms, and there are very specific things you need to know about each form and what it will do to you. Your first time you have basically no chance, because you have to lose to each form to learn what's unfair about it.

FTL's greatest failing is that while you can have all kinds of weird builds throughout most of the game, you need a ship that can do a bunch of specific things to counter the final boss. Like, the boss is near impossible if you don't have a teleporter so you can send guys to go beat up and disable the missile launching room on the final boss; if you don't do this and try to fight it fairly, the battle is much more difficult as you get spammed by dozens of missiles.

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Remember when Abby said Hellblade was brown? thats how I feel about metal gear survive.

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The Aloy event in MHW is out right now, duders.

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Jeff should meet Hope, Snow, Vaan & Panelo.

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@fawkes: I mean a Metal Gear game not trying to be a Metal Gear game might be problematic for some.

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@fawkes said:
@scojoe66 said:

....I like Metal Gear Survive

I keep finding myself up until like 4am playing it.

It seems like Jeff was looking to see what Metal Gear Solid could be without Kojima, and it was never trying to be that. It was trying to be Dragon Quest Builders but with Metal Gear.

I came here to say the same thing. I don't necessarily disagree with Jeff about much of it...but I'm still having fun playing it.

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@bisonhero: Agreed; FTL's final boss requires such specific upgrades it punishes most weird randomized builds. Luckily, Into the Breach has none of that bullshit. The final boss feels a tad easier than the 4th island, and good 70% of the game felt doable if you spend 15 minutes staring at the map and wondering "How the hell do I survive this turn?"

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Wow i'm surprised there was a Sword Art Online Fatal Bullet mention on the podcast. Jason is right in that the intro is very cutscene heavy but once you get past that bit its not as bad. I doubt they will do a quick look of it but glad it got a mention.

I've been playing for about 20 hours and can't really recommend it unless you really need an SAO fix.

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I played through Metal Gear Survive... it was... ok... with cheat engine...

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@nickhead said:
@fawkes said:
@scojoe66 said:

....I like Metal Gear Survive

I keep finding myself up until like 4am playing it.

It seems like Jeff was looking to see what Metal Gear Solid could be without Kojima, and it was never trying to be that. It was trying to be Dragon Quest Builders but with Metal Gear.

I came here to say the same thing. I don't necessarily disagree with Jeff about much of it...but I'm still having fun playing it.

It's a bad game for a lot of reasons, but I'm playing it and enjoying many parts of it. Just beat it last night. I wouldn't dispute a 2/5 though.

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Jeff should meet Hope, Snow, Vaan & Panelo.

Hope is easily the worst Final Fantasy character.

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Having grown up in rural western Michigan, I can instantly tell you I would always take the water. Fuck electricity, living without running water is unsustainable.

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Squall is FAR worse than anybody in FFX.

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GAMERS! is surprisingly good actually given the name. The plot is almost always surprising in a really nice way. What you’d guess would happen almost rarely happens which is neat.

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Even the most tepid or bad games will have its ardent fans, I guess. Not enough free time in the day to waste on something even trifling/middling as MGS personally, especially when I still have a lot of MGSV to play through. Honestly no idea how people find the time!

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@north6 said:
@onemanarmyy said:

Jeff should meet Hope, Snow, Vaan & Panelo.

Hope is easily the worst Final Fantasy character.

It's funny that even Square tried to redeem him in the sequels by suddenly turning him into a some brilliant scientist.

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I am currently on the 15 minute mission in Metal Gear Survive that Jeff was talking about and I am pretty sure if I fail again that will be it. There was a sweet spot where I was enjoying that game but it is just too punishing for no reason.

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Oh damn, Metal Gear Surivive looks and feels like a cheap money-grab. Every part of the game seems designed to either waste the player's time with busy work and/or nudge them to open their wallet for microtransactions.

Such a sad thing.

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re: the batman stuff

when i get older I wanna leave all my weird video game paraphernalia in my will to the Strong Museum of Play in Rochester, NY so they can either display it, preserve it, or sell it off for money to fund their existing exhibits.

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A N T I P A

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100 Papa John's pizzas jump out of a plane...

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Bucket of any liquid can flush a toilet. Easy.

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Yeah, certainly the reason for more widespread anime awareness is due to a new ArcSys game and not, oh I don't know, services like Crunchyroll, Hulu, Netflix et al. making it so people don't have to wait for the 3 shows toonami had in rotation or buy a spindle of dvd-rs from a dude at a comic book shop to watch anime.

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I don't usually comment on things, but let it be known that Gamers! is a terrible anime. I'm not going to tell you not to watch it, but I will say that you have been warned.

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Here's an icky GameStop story an employee told me once: Apparently, someone was "pleasuring himself" to a poster of one of the ladies from DOA Xtreme. This apparently occurred in the middle of the day when there were other shoppers around.

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I did not expect a long talk about Metal Gear Survive.

On the topic of living without electricity or water for a week. Jeff mentioned Flint, Michigan. I think people should read this article written by former NBA player Rasheed Wallace about what is going on in Flint. It paints a picture of what is like for a community to not have clean water for a long time after the media attention went away.

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/rasheed-wallace-flint-michigan/

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What's everyone's Horny Levl?

-Admin

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'Seedy Bangers'

I smell a new after-show title.

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GAMERS! is surprisingly good actually given the game. The plot is almost always surprising in a really nice way. What you’d guess would happen almost rarely happens which is neat.

I don't know, it's kinda just absurdly dumb characters in perpetual love triangle misunderstandings that occasionally has a few seconds of Persona Arena or fake Mario Kart every 5 episodes or so. I mean I didn't hate it but I feel like it's only called GAMERS! to trick people who like video games into watching it.

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@bisonhero: That boss made me stop playing FTL. The first time I got to it I got ruined. The second time, I threw everything I had at what turned out to be it's first form and then it went into it's second form and picked me apart easily. I'd sacrificed crew members who died on it when it blew up, resources etc. I've never been more annoyed at a game. So I stopped playing. Then hearing about how you can pretty much waste an hour getting to the boss, with all these weird builds which are fun but entirely useless for fighting that boss made me glad I never wasted more time with it.

It's impossible if you don't get the right dice rolls on the way up to it. Something you have no control over.

Hearing that ITB doesn't have that level of bullshit makes me interested in playing it.

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I really like metal gear survive. It doesn't have much of an end game, but the story is neat, and the survival mechanics are simple enough to not get irritating. I don't need other people to see my base to feel good about it, so I don't mind there being no multiplayer aspect to that part. The micro-transaction stuff is dumb, but it's all pretty pointless stuff, so it's not very intrusive. Sending a team out to get resources for you is utterly pointless. It can take literal days to gather only a small amount of some rare resources. That's real life days. The story is pretty Metal Gear. It makes no goddamn sense at all, and has stupid revelations part way through. At least it was a complete story though. Overall, it's not a perfect game by any stretch, but if you're into survival games, and you like wave based defense missions for your multiplayer, then I think the $40 price is worth it. Still, it's probably like a 3/5 anyway.