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Playdate: Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 + 2.5 ReMIX (Part 3)

There's nobody we'd rather play Kingdom Hearts with than YOU the community.

The crew of Giant Bomb invites you to join us for some fun times with video games.

Apr. 21 2021

Cast: Vinny, Jan

Posted by: Jan

In This Episode:

Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 ReMIX

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Takes one to know one.

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Sanctuary is such an actual banger

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Stop teasin' and just beat KH1!

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I'm alright with moving on. Though I'm a little sad we're not seeing Jan and Vinny grapple with Chain of Memories (never seen the PS2 port)

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I'm so sad they aren't continuing Kingdom Hearts 1. As someone who never played Kingdom Hearts, and probably never will, I really enjoyed watching Vinny and Jan playthrough it!

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KEEP GOING <3

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I want the impossible. I want a full playthrough of all the games. But I know that is a tall order. But... PLEASE

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Edited By Dan_CiTi

I hope if they do ever go back to KH1, they just end up using CheatEngine to make the combat totally silly and circumvent some of the games' issues.

Either way I hope they have a better time with KH2, to me the most modern and playable of these games until KH3.

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Please continue KH1. ;w;

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Asking for a full series playthrough is a tall order. If Jan and Vinny at least spend a little time with each game, that would be cool. Vinny has enough tolerance to put up with Kingdom Hearts' bullshit to make that an enjoyable feature. I'm a fan of KH but it's such an easy thing to poke fun at.

@fistoh said:

Sanctuary is such an actual banger

I hate to be that guy - I truly do - but the Japanese version, Passion, is better. You're not wrong, though!

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The prologue in KH2 is a good 2.5-3 hours long, so if they wanna get into the meat of the game Jan should think of playing through that section privately and just giving Vinny the summary. I'm hoping they take this route cause I replayed KH2 remaster last summer and from the moment you get control of Sora the combat already feels sooo much better than KH1.

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Kingdom Hearts 2 is really good but they should play some Birth by Sleep. That battle system is very well done.

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Wish they'd gone for the whole thing, that would've been a GB classic

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Ya, I figured they wouldn't actually play through all of Kingdom Hearts.
I mean if they actually played through all of one of these then the first one is the one I'd recommend. Although the other two main line games get real stupid. But the first one is the most fun to play.

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This reminds me of how Kingdom Hearts 2, God of War, Resident Evil 4 and several other games came out within a year or so of each other and how all of those games were really into the idea that quick time events were a big thing.

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Y’all heard about these “funny animals”?

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I dont care if they switch to 2 but I just want to see more of this. I love this team of nostalgic Jan explaining KH to Vinny who seems interested in understanding why KH was a big deal but also both understanding it is cheesy as hell and not taking it serious. It is the most excited I have been for a series in a long time.

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I would've loved to see them play through at least the first game, but if their "hearts" aren't in it... <3

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Edited By theonewhoplays

Just playing the first hours of the KH seems like such a bad idea. The games are the most fun when you have leveled up a bunch and start wrecking shit. This format makes it seem like they just set it up to have an excuse to dunk on the games. For the next feature they should play through the first 3-4 hours of the Persona games. That should be fun... So I hope they continue with KH2 for a while at least. Just wish they wouldn't spoil random stuff before they get relevant. Part of the fun is letting the story... flow over you

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1:25:00
Destiny Islands is an entire world in the KH universe. The island at the beginning of KH1 is just a hangout for the kids of a nearby town, the same town we see in this scene.

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Seems like Kingdom Hearts 1 has now defeated two giantbomb editors. We must now pray that the eventual new hires will have the courage, strength and resilience to bring us the full playthrough we deserve.

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@vinny sounds like you're talking about a hand winch: https://www.safetyliftingear.com/products/pfaff-mws-150kg-spur-gear-drive-wire-rope-hand-winch/cm-mws150-rs

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I'm completely on board with the idea of skipping to KH2. KH1 is a slog, many of the worlds are terribly designed, the combat is not great, and the vast middle of the game is completely irrelevant if you're just trying to get immersed in the overall insane story. Even if they kept moving in that game, they were about to hit Tarzan-land, which is worse than Wonderland.

You could literally play the part of KH1 they already played and the last world and get all you really need out of that game. Though I do wish Vinny got to experience the insane events in the last world.

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I got a lot of fond memories of KH2, I hope they play through it. Especially since it seems like they're enjoying their time with this one way more

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i missed it what happened with Cloud? :)

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Noo, they switched game :(. What a shame, looked forward to a full playthrough.

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PSA: Each Kingdom Hearts game takes about 30 hours, even when mainlining. That said, I'm 100% down for a playthrough (or showcase) of the series that is as convoluted and head-scratching as the series itself.

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I'm starting to get the impression Kingdom Hearts isn't a good or well-made game/series...

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this game is bad but the vinny and jan chemistry is solid

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Honestly I don't really get the point of just playing the opening 3/4 hours of a (I presume) 40+ hour RPG. I wish they'd just downloaded cheat engine and made themselves invincible and given themselves 500% exp gain or something so they can get through the combat quickly.

As someone who hasn't played kingdom hearts I don't really know why I'd bother watching the rest of the series if they're gonna do this, just seems kind of pointless, at least for me personally. I'm sure it works for people who've already played these games and get to just relive some memories.

I know committing to playing these long RPGs is a serious time sink, I know they're busy with a lot of other, more important stuff and I know that the current pace of a 1 and a half-ish hour episode a week it would have taken them years to finish all the games so I can totally understand why they don't want to do it but still, its a real shame for me.

Oh well, not everything is for me, and that's OK!

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I genuinely don't understand skipping so much of the KH story, starting the slog that is a prologue of 2, only to likely not finish 2 either? Either commit to this, come up with a plan, watch some cutscenes, or don't even do any of this.

I get skipping 1, but not even considering 365/2, and starting here seems to not serve anyone. Idk, I guess I only have myself to blame for getting excited about GB doing anything with KH.

It just seems like they're doing this all for the "Kingdom hearts is trash hahaha" bit that Ben tried. The lack of thought process behind any of this is so frustrating.

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@vinny I think some sort of wire tensioner/strainer would do the trick for your raspberry trellis lines. They are typically sold by electric fence suppliers. Places like Tractor Supply Co also stock them. I have good results using them with a few different crops and trellis systems on my vegetable farm.

There are a couple primary styles. In the first style, you attach the strainer to a fixed object at one end and thread the end of the wire through it. In the second style, the tensioner slips over the wire anywhere along its run. These are nice because they can be installed on a preexisting line, and in the middle of a run, which is sometimes helpful for getting even tension. They are tensioned with a 1/2" drive ratchet. Depending how tight you need them, you may need a buddy to slide the clip in while you hold the tension on the reel. I use them on single spans up to 120'.

If you want to really go overboard, you could get this hand winch (or that other one @ramone linked above).

Hope this helps!

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Scary how close Vinny got to the actual story just joking around during the opening AMV lol

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This series makes me so freaking happy please do many more <3

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Edited By Broshmosh

There're a whole lot of people in these comments pulling some absolutist BS. There are quite a few examples of games that have been started, but not finished, on Giantbomb. In fact that's quite a common thing, and the notion of "Get as far as you can before you just don't want to anymore" is the basis behind Endurance Run, without which we wouldn't have some of GB's most classic videos - and for games they didn't always finish!

I get this game series is precious to a lot of people, but I don't think GB are here as videogame historians or archivists. Cheat engine discussion asside, everything I've heard about KH1 makes it sound like a hard game to play on a stream/archive if you aren't known for being dedicated to JRPGs.

I don't know these games well. I don't wish to. This is pretty much all I really need from the series, just like how "The sixth day of endless forklift operations" was all I really needed from Shenmue. Then again I bet there were plenty of people in those comments demanding the crew go back to finish it, so what do I know?

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I can only assume that the decision for Vinny and Jan to stop playing KH1 was made at a senior level, possibly by Jeff Gerstmann or his boss Jeff Bakalar.

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What was the point of playing roughly as far as Ben did back when he tried? That’s only as far as I’ve ever gotten in the series. It’s like that’s all of the game that actually exists and everyone is just screwing with me.

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@broshmosh: People aren't demanding anything, calm down. Are we allowed to voice any feedback? You want them to do KH2, that's fine. It is also fine to be disappointed by them not finishin KH1.

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Edited By Gundato

My Understanding of Kingdom Hearts from this feature:

Sora and a few kids live on an island of orphans. They decide to leave for some reason. Sora becomes friends with Cloud and Donald and Goofy. Sora and Donald and Goofy end up doing something until some silver haired dipshit reminds him that his sister exists and then Sora plays cards until he gets frozen in carbonite. Also, he is apparently blonde in cutscenes but not in game.

Then Rikio is created and he is super blonde and a drug dealer going full Memento in the matrix. Eventually he apparently escapes with the help of some blonde girl named Nomura and puts on a black trenchcoat to sit at a table with David Duchovney to steal hearts? Presumably to procure transplants for a House reboot.

Also, all of this cool shit is broken up with constant retellings of a few disney movies and grinding.

And apparently this is NOT a prequel to The Bouncer even though Sora is just Scion but younger and lamer.

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Roxas, you gotta be somebody, or you'll be somebody's fool

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Edited By Broshmosh

@bleichman: I feel like you've read something into my comment that wasn't there, but I get what you're saying: If nobody said they wanted the crew to play KH1 in its entireity, they would never know. Valid, and the definition of feedback.

At the same time, when I scrolled into the comments of a legitimately entertaining video and almost three quarters of them were, at the time, requests to return to KH1, it appears a lot less like feedback and a lot more like a demand. Or rather, it comes across like a lot of pressure. People aren't saying "I'm sad you aren't finishing KH1", they're saying "Please finish KH1". Those mean different things.

Like I said, I have no reverence for this series. I wasn't requesting them to play or finish KH2 at all. I was stating my own surprise and displeasure at what comes across very much as pressure, the sort where "It's just a reasonable request" from a lot of people at once no longer comes across as reasonable.

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Just as a reminder to folks, 358/2 Days and Re:Coded are not playable in this collection (they were DS games), these are just cutscene movies so you can see the story. The 3DS Game, Dream Drop Distance, did get a remaster in the 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue collection (which also includes the BBS 0.2 a fragmentary passage, which is kind of an epilogue to Birth By Sleep, and X Back Cover, a companion movie to the mobile game that is about to be wrapped up/shut down).

I definitely get moving on from KH1 for a bit, not having scan in that game is painful. Excited to see how Vinny responds to 2 with no context.