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Quick Look: Beyond Good & Evil HD

Jeff, Vinny, and Brad see just how H BGE's D has gotten in this XBLA release.

Sit back and enjoy as the Giant Bomb team takes an unedited look at the latest video games.

Mar. 2 2011

Cast: Jeff, Brad, Vinny

Posted by: Drew

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Beyond Good & Evil

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@G3RHRT said:
" Man, I kinda got put off by Brad's constant "Women can't do this, women can't do that... oh yeah, short hair is for men, eyepatch is for men... blah blah". Bad day, Brad? "
wtf are you talking about? That never happened, Brad just said short hair was a boyish look, in the context of Vinny saying Jade wasn't overtly sexy. Bad day you sir.
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Used to love this game, glad to see it back at last. I actually think that while it's aged it has aged pretty well. Compared to a lot of games from back then it stands up pretty well. 
 
Can't wait to get it!

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I love this game sooo much, but I don't own an Xbox - so, are there any rumors about HD version coming on Steam ?

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Wow this looks super awesome. If only I didn't have to play about 5 other games. I feel like I should buy this in the hope that they make good on BG&E2

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@beard_of_zeus said:

" @GetEveryone said:

" @ryanwho said:

" @crit1cal said:

" I've heard nothing but good things about this game. I guess it's time to play it. "
Clunky stealth missions are about half the game so I guess people have been avoiding telling you about half the game. "
Man, what DO you like? Any time I see you post, it's usually something negative.
I am also curious about this. "
I enjoyed this game, and the staff themselves recalled the stealth being shitty. So the better question is why am I getting called out for agreeing with the staff? And also ask yourself why you assume someone hate a game for having one bad thing to say about it. Unless you're a wounded puppy like zeforgotten, I think you're capable of grasping the gray zone in between. You know, where things can be good and also have problems? This game is that. Most games are that. Recognizing a flaw is not "hating", its observation. Once more, its an observation everyone in the QL agreed with. And most people who've actually played the game aren't going to defend the stealth.
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@ryanwho said:
"why am I getting called out for agreeing with the staff? Cus you like drinking koolaid?  "
Um... 
 
Pot. Kettle. Black.
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@GetEveryone said:
" @ryanwho said:
"why am I getting called out for agreeing with the staff? Cus you like drinking koolaid?  "
Um...  Pot. Kettle. Black. "
Everyone's black kitchenware on the internet. What's your point, son? "Why are you being negative" and "why do you agree with the staff" are, in this case, the same question. So my question is why did you just compare the staff to Hitler? Unfair dude.
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@ryanwho said:
" @GetEveryone said:
" @ryanwho said:
"why am I getting called out for agreeing with the staff? Cus you like drinking koolaid?  "
Um...  Pot. Kettle. Black. "
Everyone's black kitchenware on the internet. What's your point, son? "Why are you being negative" and "why do you agree with the staff" are, in this case, the same question. So my question is why did you just compare the staff to Hitler? Unfair dude. "
Don't even bother arguing with these kids. Some people just focus on the negativity in everyone. I realise that its usually more worthwhile writing a forum post if there's an actual point behind it. Disagreeing with someone has a point for discussion. So does pointing out a fact. Just saying OMG I LOVED THIS GAME isn't really productive. Thats why I'm known to be negative here. Because I just feel like venting my spleen sometimes instead of just screaming I LOVE THIS GAME. 
 
Sorry, just had to back you up there because I'm sick of these morons yelling SO WHAT DO YOU LIKE THEN when thats not how natural human interaction works.
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@MysteriousBob said:
" @ryanwho said:
" @GetEveryone said:
" @ryanwho said:
"why am I getting called out for agreeing with the staff? Cus you like drinking koolaid?  "
Um...  Pot. Kettle. Black. "
Everyone's black kitchenware on the internet. What's your point, son? "Why are you being negative" and "why do you agree with the staff" are, in this case, the same question. So my question is why did you just compare the staff to Hitler? Unfair dude. "
Don't even bother arguing with these kids. Some people just focus on the negativity in everyone. I realise that its usually more worthwhile writing a forum post if there's an actual point behind it. Disagreeing with someone has a point for discussion. So does pointing out a fact. Just saying OMG I LOVED THIS GAME isn't really productive. Thats why I'm known to be negative here. Because I just feel like venting my spleen sometimes instead of just screaming I LOVE THIS GAME.  Sorry, just had to back you up there because I'm sick of these morons yelling SO WHAT DO YOU LIKE THEN when thats not how natural human interaction works. "
I appreciate your support, however I just read you dissing that hair fighting game so you're worse than Charlie Sheen/Pol Pot.
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@ryanwho: I decided to remove the quote because it was becoming outlandishly long.
 
Firstly, I couldn't decipher your response; it was near unintelligible. What I will say, is this: You suggested I was drinking the kool-aid for, what, conforming to conventional appraisals of BG&E? Yet I was simply suggesting that, in following the Bombcrew's opinion, you were doing likewise. 
 
I have absolutely no idea what your response was getting at.
 
Secondly, to both you and Bob, I did make a point, and didn't simply point out your negativity.  
 
In fact, I agreed with you: the game is dated as hell and definitely feeling it's age. It was the fact that you simply derided the stealth section(s) while forgoing any additional details, that caused me to question you in the first place. It seemed like your general response. 
 
I'd appreciate if you read my first post, Bob. I'm not a moron, neither am I a dick or a kid. I was genuinely interested in what, if anything, ryanwho likes. It wasn't simply childish backlash.
 
To be fair, if people are asking these questions of you...
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Edited By blacklab

Looks like the older one with wider edges. I really liked this back in tne day.

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Edited By rjaylee

Hmmmm, this looks pretty interesting. I never got into it when it originally came out, mostly because I didn't really know what kind of game it was. I may have to check this out.

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I don't know why I can't be moved to care about this game. 
 
Gonna give it a deeper try over the spring break, though.

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Edited By LiquidSaiyan3

BRING BACK RADIAL TEXT INPUT

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Edited By Dingofighter

Checked out Jeff's review of the game, not the HD version, and one of his criticisms is that it is short, while in the QL they say it's of decent length.  
So... I guess the game is better now then, since one of the things that was bad is now okay?

Anyway, I'd never actually seen any gameplay of this before, so I wasn't really sure what kind of game it was. Therefore I wasn't interested at all when this HD version was announced, despite all the people praising this game.  
My thoughts after watching this QL: I'm going to download the trial right now.

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I enjoyed this game in the day, but it is very overrated. I can't really get into the art direction, either. It's just... underwhelming and bland to me.

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It seems that they don't even have the decency to give a real release date for the PS3.  "Later this year" could mean 30 days, given many previous MS exclusives.   I hate exclusives that aren't first-party titles, temporary or not.  Why should I be able to play a game, when my friend cannot or vise-versa?  At least they're far less of a common occurrence these days.  I won't be purchasing this until all my console brothers and sisters get the chance to enjoy the HD upgrade.  (Besides, I have too much to play as it is.)
 
Great game though.  I have it a copy of the SD version already.

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Does Brad ever take the shrink rap off of anything he doesn't review?

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I can't believe this game is $10. I would've bought this for full price back when it was released.

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i like stealth mechanics

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I am so getting this if/when it's out on the UK PSN loved this game back in the day and already own it on GC and Steam but it's worth the triple dip.
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Loved this game when it came out. I think the soundtrack was what got me interested. Oh and it has Rasta Rhinos. Mammagoooo. Aaaaand I'm back in.

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For $10 i might actually try this out.  On a side note, i bought Fable 1 on XBL on a lark and while i haven't played B&E it looks like the controls are about the same. 
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Just played this in its entirety in one sitting. Damn fine game. Hope there'll be a sequel.

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Edited By Killjoule

I loved this game when it came out, and I've already bought it and am looking forward to playing it again.  One big complaint with the camera/controls, though.  If you use inverted controls, it automatically inverts the x-axis in third-person view as well.  You can change the camera controls to 'normal' but then the y-axis is no longer inverted.  So either I'm looking left when I want to look right (or vice versa), or I'm looking up when I want to look down (or vice versa).  Maybe back when it came out on PS2, those camera controls were acceptable, but now that controls have become more standardized (and better), having a goofy inverted x-axis that you can't flip independently is a real pain.  Luckily, BG&E is one of my favorite games ever, so I'm gonna power through, but I'm severly disappointed.

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i missed this when i first came out ... lucky i get a second chance to get it :D

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 I enjoyed this game in HD seven years ago.  BTW it's available in HD on gog.com and steam already.  PC master race.
 
Oh yeah,  I also ran into a bug that killed my saved games... pc maste...

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This video isn't buffering correctly for me at all : /

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aaaagh, take pictures

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@atomic_dumpling: those look pretty good! I love the character and art design in this game.
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I think I may have to get this game, looks very interesting. I loved these kind of games when I was younger.

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Am I going to buy this for the third time? Probably. But I expect a sequel now!

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Remember when this game was being given away with cheese?
 

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I don't get how they're saying so many things of the game are dated. IMO I think the mechanics haven't even aged. And sections where the camera control is taken away from you? WTH, that's in modern games too. 

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The loading time was much shorter in the old version, still fine in this ofc. 

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I love that Overworld Theme. God, it's beautiful. 
 
Just realized that "Entering the Cave" and "Mysterious Bulter" music is very reminiscent of the Dark City score. 
 
Companies don't pull out random IP's out of their musky closets if they're not actively thinking about them. I maintain that this is all part of a bigger plan. I'm frankly surprised that, a few days post release, no blog has posted any kind of reference to the sequel to the game, preferably and unlockable teaser after 100%-ing the game. Ubisoft would have to be retarded to squander this opportunity... 
 
I'm always baffled by how the GB crew fail to comprehend game mechanics. The camera says, "bad framing". Hence, go to where you'd get better framing! Use your partner's Super Action! I always feel like an asshole because it makes me think, "I'm way smarter than them," but to me it's second nature learned after... much time of gaming - certain patterns are built into your brain about how things work. I don't understand why similar structures are not in place in their brains.

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Speaking of HD remakes from that era that need to happen...ETERNAL DARKNESS HD PLEASE!!!

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You cannot invert the Y axis in this game.  I have been playing games all my life, and I always play inverted.  Back on the Gamecube, this was a deal breaker for me.  Years later for the HD version, it is still a deal breaker.  It's the little things that count, why make a game you want a lot of people to play and not give them the freedom to play it the way they want.  Inverted is embedded in my DNA.

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@Higdon95 said:
" You cannot invert the Y axis in this game.  I have been playing games all my life, and I always play inverted.  Back on the Gamecube, this was a deal breaker for me.  Years later for the HD version, it is still a deal breaker.  It's the little things that count, why make a game you want a lot of people to play and not give them the freedom to play it the way they want.  Inverted is embedded in my DNA. "
I'm currently playing through the PS2 version, and I totally inverted the camera controls in the options menu. It should be there for you.
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I think I saw a news thing where its releasing May 3rd for PSN. So ya dunno. 
 
I never played this back in the day but I have it on my hard drive waiting to be played. Just not sure if I want to jump into a 10 hour experience right now.

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You can hit the attack button again when Jade is doing the slow-mo attack to skip the animation

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Edited By LordAndrew

Whoa! I remembered very little of this game. I was planning to get back to the game and finish it, but it looks like I might be better off starting from the beginning.

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WHY DO THE CONTROLS SUCK??

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I love this game

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Still waiting on BG&E2 in 2023!