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Quick Look: Demon's Souls

Like dark fantasy? Hate yourself? Then Vinny has a game for you!

Sit back and enjoy as the Giant Bomb team takes an unedited look at the latest video games.

Oct. 10 2009

Cast: Dave, Jeff, Vinny

Posted by: Drew

In This Episode:

Demon's Souls

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@CH3BURASHKA said:
" Jeff is a pussy. I think this is a brilliant game, and perfectly difficult: it's realistic. How hard do you think it would be to be a human being taking on the entire demon horde? "
I'm not sure demons are all that realistic, nevermind a horde of them.
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Edited By benderunit22

The constant threat of losing your progress heightens the tension of the game. Definitely not for everyone, but once you get out of the starting area, you could get by by grinding souls on easier (relatively speaking) levels.

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Seems interesting but, the difficulty seems way to punishing.

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Edited By Jimbo7676

I bought this game and I'm really liking it. It is really friggin'  hard though. It seems also that if you just assign stat points all willy nilly without a plan towards what you want your character to be you might be boned as far as beating the game. Unlike what Jeff said though I like the combat even though it is challenging.

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Edited By dvdwalker8

I was interested in this game but after having watched this I don't think I will ever play it. If I die in a game and have to start the entire level over fighting respawned enemies, i stop playing. The game also looks really dark and was hard to see what was going on most of the time. Oh well, plenty of other better looking games coming out to play instead of this one.
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Brad should be locked in a room and told that he will not be able to leave until he beats that game.

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Edited By End_Boss

Jeff, don't be a coward.
Dave, I will leave you tender notes throughout every dungeon. And bloodstains. There will be. Bloodstains.

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Edited By radion_null

Man, i wish I had the time to play this. work and school will definitely get in the way of taking on this challenge.

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@Milkman said:

" I am completely befuddled by the comments here. I still see no redeeming values of this game besides the whole online aspect. The menus look like a PS1 game. The combat looks clunky. The death penalty stuff is absolutely fucking ridiculous. Did I watch the wrong Quick Look? I just don't get it. How does someone watch this and say "This is a game that I would enjoy spending my free time playing"? Is there some kind of mind control device that I am immune to?   "

You sir, play way too much button mashers.  
 
The current state of gaming is totally pissing me off right now. Combat looks clunky?
WHAT DO YOU MEAN I MASHED THE ATTACK BUTTON AND MY DUDE DIDN'T DO THE TRIPLE BACKWARDS SUMMERSAULT OF FLAMING DESTRUCTION? THIS GAME SUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS  
 
"The Wii is destroying gaming with it's casual bullcrap.  Also, Demon's Soul's sucks for being a game that doesn't hold your hand and do everything for you." MAKES TOTAL SENSE. GAMERS OF THE WORLD.
 
You actually need to play this game and think about what you're doing. The dodge button is there because you need to dodge away from attacks, unlike the God Of Wars of this world where you can get through the entire game with your L1+Square spin attack.
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Edited By Floppypants

This game looks awesome and I can't wait to play it.
I actually already bought the Deluxe Edition even though I don't currently have a PS3.
 
and this quick look was made 1000x better due to Dave's presence.

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Edited By Sarumarine

Oh man, I'm so bummed Ryan wasn't part of this Quick Look. It sounded like he was ready to have some serious words with this game. That, coupled with Vinny, it could have been awesome.
 
Anyways, it seems like if you looked up polarizing in the dictionary, Demon's Souls would be right there. You either dig it or you don't.  
 
It does have the honor of having the ugliest character creator I've ever seen. They have a strange definition of male and female. Heh.

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@Milkman said:
"I am completely befuddled by the comments here. I still see no redeeming values of this game besides the whole online aspect. The menus look like a PS1 game. The combat looks clunky. The death penalty stuff is absolutely fucking ridiculous. Did I watch the wrong Quick Look? I just don't get it. How does someone watch this and say "This is a game that I would enjoy spending my free time playing"? Is there some kind of mind control device that I am immune to?   "

Go read all the 90+ reviews, douchebag.
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Edited By Yzzerdd

I'm convinced the myth of this game being good was created by import shops to get people to pay 70 and up for it, and the importers don't want to admit they had a horrible mistake.

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Edited By King9999

Demon's Souls is really good, and deserves the praise it's getting.

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Edited By EndlessMike

To be fair to the game, Vinny did have like a bajillion health potions and was running around with like 2 health.

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Edited By white

Forget about buying a shitty razor to cut yourself at night.
 
Use the box/BD for Demon's Souls.

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Edited By hagridore

Looks like some great ideas trapped in a horrible execution. Scribblenauts, is that you in disguise?

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Edited By Bawabus

Jeff is being way too critical. The game's systems are put in place for reasons that, I think, benefit the overall structure in pretty cool ways. I've been playing it for seven hours and I'd say it's the most fun I've had with a game all year.

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@Yzzerdd said:

"I'm convinced the myth of this game being good was created by import shops to get people to pay 70 and up for it, and the importers don't want to admit they had a horrible mistake. "

 I'm convinced that pussy gamers don't want to admit that there are games that are great, but that they can't personally handle due to their lack of intelligence and motor skills.   They become jealous of those who can, and have nothing left to do but bash their fat fingers on the keyboard on threads like this.
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DOOD!!!  WTB 360 PORT!!! 
 
I might actually have to buy a PS3 now.  This game is EXACTLY what I hoped it would be: difficult and awesome. 
 
Also... 
 
@Milkman: A game playing like it's dated in some way does not necessarily make it a bad game.  It just may not be a game for you, but for a hardcore traditional RPG nut like myself, this is right up my alley!

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@EndlessMike said:
" To be fair to the game, Vinny did have like a bajillion health potions and was running around with like 2 health. "
Mr. Cthulhu took him out with about 3 hits when he was at max health.
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I probably don't have the time, patience (or PS3) to play this right now, but I can totally see why people love it.
 
And... is this really any more punishing than Diablo?
 
EDIT: I guess enemies don't respawn when you corpse-run in Diablo, so there's that.

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sure this game is a bit too much when it comes to the overkill difficulty but i seriously dont see the hatred that alot of people have for hard games in general? do you want your games to be over in a flash and yeah i just jumped in there stod still and shot everything that moved and im a bullet spundge and cant die! yeah! thats awesome!!.... well not really... me i want a game to be somewhat hard and rewarding... alot of games ive played lately ive made it throu on hard without dying... and thats Dumb

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@kagekage:
i think beating the 1-1 boss would be sufficient, though unlikely.
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Where's the story? You're basically just grinding souls, to progress in character terms? That's it? There's no PVP? There's no personal property beyond gear?

Wow, I would not want to play this game. I used to love hardcore mode in Diablo 2 - then I grew up realizing that wasting my time to grind stuff isn't fun anymore without a goal beyond "being the best" in a hack&slash...

I'll just wait for Dragon Age and get by by playing games that wont frustrate me to the point of high blood pressure!

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 Cool. I left that "Attack" message at the part where Vinny  cut the chains in the first level like 4 days ago. So yeah pretty neat.
I have been playing since Tuesday and think the game is great. Yeah the interface is a bit convoluted but once you get past that it plays well. The tension the game makes you feel is fantastic. Once you get deep into a dungeon, and have a shit ton of souls, you really start to feel the pressure.

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@Curufinwe said:
" @Yzzerdd said:

"I'm convinced the myth of this game being good was created by import shops to get people to pay 70 and up for it, and the importers don't want to admit they had a horrible mistake. "

 I'm convinced that pussy gamers don't want to admit that there are games that are great, but that they can't personally handle due to their lack of intelligence and motor skills.   They become jealous of those who can, and have nothing left to do but bash their fat fingers on the keyboard on threads like this. "
I'm convinced you're taking this way too personally. Also, I question your intelligence, your heritage, and your creeds. And you smell of elderberries.
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The game looks alright, but I've got some issues with the game in the QL. The punishment in the game seems fucking hard and you die pretty quickly (not that I don't mind since I die pretty quickly in COD4). I hate corpse running in general, the only time I ever accepted them was in Diablo II where my corpse wouldn't be too far off from someone's waypoint or whatever it was called. =P Of course this game isn't for everyone, it's challenging. I think I'll pass on this game.
 
Oh and the UI does seem clunky and pretty ugly.

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Keep bashing those stubby digits, stupidcat.
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@Curufinwe said:
" Keep bashing those stubby digits, stupidcat. "
I'm just saying try not to be so angry about this. I actually think the game looks sort of neat, though I doubt I've got the funds to buy it right now.
 
You, however, probably should go outside and relax a bit.
 
Also, repeating a somewhat tired "insult" (a gamer accusing other gamers of being fat? Seriously?) is not generally going to sting anymore than the first time it failed to.
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Jeff whines too much.   It's just a video game.  Jeff will love those new Nintendo games that play for you. :/

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I think Vinnie made a good point at the end about just needing to turn the corner so to speak and really master the mechanics. I just ordered this game yesterday online and hope it wont be the end of me

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This game is wack.
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@Seppli said:
" If Demon's Souls is being released in Europe, it's gonna be my reason to buy a PS3.  I just know, I'm gonna fall in love with this thing. "
I'm in the EU and I received it yesterday;
and I'm almost in love with it!
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fuck. that.

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This game looks awful; why are people excited about an overly difficult and cheap game with outdated game mechanics? I don't get it!

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this really looks not good.  i think people are trying to force the fun out of this.

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I dont get the appeal of this game, i didn't before... even less so now.
 
Good thing brad wasn't playing though, would of seen that first monster a good 30 times ;)

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I'm not angry at all.  I find people who can't just admit that a certain game is not for them genuinely amusing, and love taking the piss out of their weird conspiracy theories that all the people who like it are brainwashed/deluded/lying etc. 
 
It's bizarre that you felt the need to leap to Yzzerdd's defense when his nonsense argument was parodied.  I guess it all went over your head.

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@Milkman said:
" @Turambar said:
" @Milkman: Accept the fact that people are and move on.  You don't have to understand everything. "
What kind of response is that? This game is so sacred that it can't be questioned? Bullshit. I have just as much right to ask why people are excited as you have to gush and praise about this game. "
Well, tell me, have people told you the reasons why they like the game?  That they find the combat rewarding, the masochistic difficulty enjoyable, and the death mechanic interesting?  Now tell me, do you buy those explanations or understand the reasoning behind them?  I'm not trying to convince you the game is some super special awesome piece of pie form heaven.  I'm telling you to accept the fact that the game has an audience that loves it, and while you're not one of them, there's nothing wrong with that.  Walking away puzzled by the reactions of others is fine.
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Seems really hard but thats ok, some people like that. Just not my type of game

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@Milkman said:
" I am completely befuddled by the comments here. I still see no redeeming values of this game besides the whole online aspect. The menus look like a PS1 game. The combat looks clunky. The death penalty stuff is absolutely fucking ridiculous. Did I watch the wrong Quick Look? I just don't get it. How does someone watch this and say "This is a game that I would enjoy spending my free time playing"? Is there some kind of mind control device that I am immune to?   "
Well, how does anyone play a FPS and say "this is a game I would enjoy playing"?  I certainly have never derived any enjoyment from them.  But you know what, that's ok.  People like things for reasons that I'll never understand and I'm more than willing to accept.  I think we both have better things to do with our time then try to unravel these insignificant mysteries of the universe. 
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Played the Chinese release of this over the summer and it's not as hard as everyone makes it seem.  The game rewards patience.  I like it a lot.

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I feel sorry for the GiantBomb crew, they're so far up their own ass that they aren't willing to give a game a chance and instead choose to cry "THis shit is crap!" even BEFORE playing the game.
 
Perhaps they'll add a Chainsaw in Demons Souls 2, maybe then Jeff will give it a fair shake?

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I like the creepy sound work, the notes, and being able to watch others kick the bucket. The difficulty and punishment for dying is awesome, I was tense watching Vinny play and it was just a QL.

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@Quacktastic said:
" It's not as hard as everyone makes it seem the game just rewards patience.  I like it a lot. "
Patience?  Nintendo is making games that play themselves for the 'Mericans.  
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The comments on this video are just amazing. From the crazy rage people are spouting about anyone who likes this game, to the people coming in with the retorts. It's fun.
 
But seriously, thank you to all the people commenting that have said that they accept the fact that people like this game even if it's not for them, instead of refusing to accept it and wanting everyone who likes it to burn in hell.

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I have this game and yes it's frustrating, it's cheap, and can really really make you hate video games, but dammit when you beat one of those giant bosses you feel like you could slap god across the face and he couldn't do shit. There is just something undeniable about the game that really gets it hooks into you even if you cant figure out what it is. I think that it's just the persons tastes being appealed to because most people will not like this game unless they really have an itch for this style of gameplay.

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@blahblahepic said:
" I feel sorry for the GiantBomb crew, they're so far up their own ass that they aren't willing to give a game a chance and instead choose to cry "THis shit is crap!" even BEFORE playing the game.  Perhaps they'll add a Chainsaw in Demons Souls 2, maybe then Jeff will give it a fair shake? "
Eh, the GiantBomb crew have stated on multiple occasions their opinion isn't some definitive word on how good or bad a game is.  They're here to give you a specific perspective, one that you're free to agree or disagree with.  Demon's Souls simply isn't a game that suits their tastes, and that's fine.
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@Curufinwe said:
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It's bizarre that you felt the need to leap to Yzzerdd's defense when his nonsense argument was parodied.  I guess it all went over your head.

"
 See, I would have accepted that you weren't angry... Except you edited your post to throw in another throw-away insult.
 
Now I'm sure you were angry, and that your keyboard is currently spittle-flecked. Mostly, I posted not to defend the guy above you, but to question why you were so angry about it that you had to result to accusing everyone who DOESN'T like this game of being of low-intelligence, pussies, etc.
 
If you don't mind taking some of your own advice, just accept that there are those who don't like this game and move on.