Quick Look: Enter the Gungeon

I personally like this game more than Nuclear Throne. Seems like there is more to this game. Also Nuclear Throne runs 30fps which just doesn't feel good, aiming and all feels a bit too clunky. This game feels great to play at least on PC. I wish the co-op was online though, seems the camera is terrible on local co-op. Oh well, time to enter the gungeon again!

Bullets shooting bullets?

Sounds a bit

...Cana-ballistic. *YEAH!*

This looks really fun. Although I say that about all of these games. Hopefully this will be the one I stick with.

Loving this game. To me it is like a binding of isaac [with less focus on amassing passives] but with actually good feeling shooting.

I got this item from a chest, a passive item, that gives me gold every time I flip a table, and every time I flip a table ALL TABLES UNFLIPPED IN THE ROOM ARE FLIPPED AS WELL.

This game has somethin' to it...

I love how there are like 3 or 4 (or more) different table tech items for flipping, from damage boost to money to either rate of fire or slowdown. Getting all but the money one would make you a MONSTER in any room with a lot of tables (you wouldn't want money with the rest because of the forced flipping part).

To give stuff to the guy in the shop, hold up on the d-pad to drop your current item and down on the d-pad to drop your current weapon. He gives you some money in return.

Also, that main theme song is amazing.

@jeff and others may like to know that the gun he got in his first run was actually a charge weapon. And a really good one! A lot of weapons have functions that are not very clear. You have to charge it for a while. It'll start humming.

I feel the game needs a bit of tuning. Keys rarely drop and sometimes you get no guns on the 1st floor. The game is all about the guns so where are they!? And worst yet is that enemy HP scales based on the floor you're on. A basic enemy will take 3 hits to kill on floor 1 but 4 hits on floor 2 and so on. There's no visual indication that they're harder to kill. It feels cheap and lazy. And I wish there was more item synergy. But beyond those complaints, this game is great. I'm having a blast and I hope things get ironed out to be even better. :)

That BULLET gun is sooooooooooooooo dumb!

Too bad about the problems though.

Glad to see Jeff and Dan enjoying this game, hope to hear some thoughts from them in the future if they get a chance to put more time into it. Awesome quick look for an awesome game.

"Are you going to be a real boy?"

I love how Jeff accidentally gets 2 curse on the first floor :D

Great game so far! Only made it to the third floor haha. To sell things to the sewer guy in the shop, I think you just need to drop your item/gun down into his grate.

+1

Where did you buy it from?

Dan made a MGS 3 reference for the Single Action Army but didn't notice the one the game itself made, "Exhilarating reload time".

edit: Nevermind. XD

This game has one glaring flaw, and it's the fact it has no aiming reticle. Super weird that it doesn't have one. Besides that, I think I found my latest gaming obsession. It's so much freaking fun!

@humanity: sometimes randomly generated games aren't entirely randomly generated. Like with the binding of Issac each individual room IS Hand crafted by the devs. The layout of the level is what's randomly generated. I may be wrong, but that seems to be what this game does as well.

There is absolutely no way this is true. Binding of Isaac rooms are fucked in ways that only a malevolent computer can come up with.

I seem to remember the official Binding of Isaac updates mentioning "200 new room layouts", or something similar. I think the items / enemies you find in a room are randomly chosen (and even then I think certain room types are associated with specific enemy types / formations), but the basic room layouts are picked from existing templates. How the rooms are connected and which rooms appear is the more random thing.

@lively: Well now I think I feel way worse about the Binding of Isaac.

+2

i agree with the balancing, and honestly i've never refunded a game, but apparently i suck so badly at this one that its just not fun to me, and makes me want to play Nuclear Throne. thinking about waiting for a patch for balancing, but i dont know.

Its telling of my incredibly different take on games that when vinny talked about how to differentiate this from nuclear throne my first thoughts were you are not going after a throne in a post apocalyptic wasteland but entering a dungeon inhabited by sentiantiant guns and bullets. I am such a mechanics second person....

good to see someone realizing that games need more guns in them.

That was pretty hilarious wasn't it. Now we just need to introduce Drew to this game...

Good news! A few hours ago there was a patch that balanced keys in the early game.

I still can't believe Dan has trouble understanding that buying something in the shop in BoA doesn't unlock it permanently.

Nuclear throne is cool, but honestly it always felt a bit shallow to me to keep me playing much. This I think has a lot more depth and awesome stuff in it. Plus I think it overall feels a lot better mechanically. The shooting to me feels a lot better. NT I think is probably a bit more technical and faster but I very much prefer this game.

As someone who loves BOI and Nuclear Throne, this seems rad. I already bought it just haven't had a chance to check it out.

So I should probably buy this...

Looks rad.

I like roguelikes, but roguelite's aren't much fun for me at all. The whole thing for me about a roguelike is going in with whatever random equipment is given to you and seeing how far you get. Building a home base and starting with better and better stuff every time takes away the whole point for me.

@beforet: There's also the thorn amour which is a DS1 reference

Man, the camera issue seems to be an oversight to me in a game that demands a clear view of the field at all times. I hope they fix it. And that seems to be a bug when Jeff telefragged himself or something on the mine cart?

This definitely looks different enough to enjoy both Gungeon and Nuclear Throne. Gungeon seems closer to Rogue Legacy or Necrodancer than to something like Spelunky.

While I agree that this game could use tweaking, in my view it should be toward making co-op a fully-fleshed out feature rather than the current "Uh, sure, I guess co-op exists". Allowing the second player to choose their character, and fixing the "teleport-instadeath" bug that Jeff and Dan experienced would make this game an absolute winner.

Almost all of your points are a matter of becoming more familiar with the game. You always start the game with a Key, and there's always at least 1 (usually more) gun-chests in each level. The Shopkeeper often (but not always) sells guns, and he's always on every level. Lastly, defeating the level boss ALWAYS gives you a new gun (and the Level 1 bosses are totally kill-able with the starter guns, if the RNG hates you).

Tougher enemies ALWAYS have a visual indicator in later levels. The basic Bullet-Kins ALWAYS take two shots to kill -- but later on you encounter Veteran Bullet Kin, which are darker, scruffier, and wear an eyepatch. Likewise, basic Shotgun-Kin are red, while the more experienced ones are blue and the Veterans are purple, and so on.

I'd say the Cloranthy Ring was more of a straight up Dark Souls reference....I think thorn armor shows up in lots of things, doesn't it?

This looks pretty awesome. I really like the stupid enemy designs.

Will probably get it once I'm done with Dark Souls 3.

Of all the references in this game I most appreciated the "Your Body Is A Weapon" one at 56:47, for reasons my avatar should make obvious to those who recognize it.

I have been playing this game a lot. Today I killed a gigantic tank with a banana with a laser pointer on it! Also the description said simply something like "the banana sort of looks like a gun". Good stuff.

Also if you plan to buy on PS4, do NOT buy Nuclear Throne, tha game is borderline unplayable, because it is buggy and there have been no patches whatsoever. Details in this topic on the site.

@eccentrix: Outside of the elevator there's a limited amount of build up that I've seen so far. I know there's one guy that lets you buy upgrades to go into a run with once you've bought all the items that use hegemony credits from the shop, but those only last one run, so it isn't at all like say Rogue Legacy. And frankly I dunno that I'd want to use the short cut because you're going to want all the upgrades from the early floors for serious runs at the late game.

Gattling Gull is an obvious Vulcan Raven(MGS) reference right? Cause like a gattling gun and a vulcan cannon are the same kind of thing.

Really digging this game. All this talk of Nuclear Throne, and I still can't really play that game on my PS4 because that version is still totally broken and has still yet to receive a patch. I enjoy both games, but Enter the Gungeon is really solidly built and scratches a similar itch, but with more progression mechanics.

@quipido said:

Yup, it is totally broken. I've honestly never played an official release of something that has so many problems and game-breaking issues. And the fact they haven't released a patch, have supplied almost no information about the PS4 patch, and have not pulled it from the store, is just really poor on Vlambeer's part.

What is the difficulty of this game? I generally find these shooters too difficult that I get frustrated with them too early, but I have room for wanting to play a game like this.

I know the variants of the enemy types who not only look different but have different patterns and shots. But I'm not confusing those when I mean HP scaling exists. Every enemy gets an HP buff the lower you go. The basic Bullet Kin actually takes 3 shots, not 2 (using the Marine's starting pistol for example). One Chamber 2, the basic Bullet Kin will take 4 shots to kill instead of 3. On Chamber 3, they will also take 4 shots to kill. I haven't had some spawn on the 4th Chamber lately so I can't verify how many shots it takes to kill them. The large knights I do know takes 2 full clips from the Marine's starting pistol on Chamber 1 to kill. I tested it out just now, I can say the knights take 3 full clips to kill on Chamber 4. The sprites look the same, it doesn't look any different yet it they take more hits to kill which is annoying to say the least. This happens to all enemies. HP scaling exists and it sucks IMO. It's lazy design.

@rongalaxy said:

Man, I don't think I want to buy this game if it has no aiming reticle option whatsoever. It just seems insane not to have one in a PC game.

Hotline Miami and Nuclear Throne work in large part because of those aiming reticles, and any game of this style without one just feels like it is trying too hard to appeal to either an outdated arcade mentality like Smash TV, or just assumes all of its players are using a console gamepad as opposed to keyboard and mouse.

@bisonhero: It does if you use a mouse. Though I guess that's not really what you want if you use a gamepad.