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Quick Look: Let It Die

Jeff and Jason take their level 11 fists, load up on frogs, and fight their way to the next elevator.

Sit back and enjoy as the Giant Bomb team takes an unedited look at the latest video games.

Dec. 13 2016

Cast: Jeff, Jason

Posted by: Jason

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Let It Die

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I found this game infuriating. Something about the rolling is off, I can't tell if its intended to become erratic or not when you run low on stamina, but the rolling doesn't behave the way I'd expect, and I've rolled into enemies when I didn't want to far too often.

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@shagge: Same here. This game gets shitty once you get to Grade 2. The Haters throughout the entire game level up to your highest grade. So you have a Grade 1 guy, you level up to Grade 2--now you need to start a new Grade 2 guy, while you're dealing with level 50 Haters armed with guns and fast melee weapons on every floor. It feels like they went "OK, you're probably hooked when you're at Grade 2, so we can start twisting the knife to get you to buy Death Metals."

I found it kind of abusive and I stopped playing.

Wow, that sounds like fucking garbage. Glad i stopped early.

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@matiaz_tapia: i think it's just pulling a lot of stuff from the servers, so your internet connection is going to have a significant effect on that stuff.

The first time I played this thing I was at my parents house, and on their terrible internet it took me like 4-5 minutes to load into the title screen and like 30 second pauses whenever there was a shop interaction. Made it basically unplayable.

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It plays good and looks so great ... but it feels kinda toxic soooo I'm pretty torn....

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@boozak said:
@overbite said:

Pro Tip: There are 3 ways to bring back a dead fighter.

1. Death Metal lets you revive on the spot

2. Go to the freezer and pay Uncle Death some kill coins and he'll go out and bring your dead fighter back with all of their stuff intact, without the currency or xp they found

3. Go to where you died and kill your own hater. You don't get the items you had but you can get the fighter back so you don't have to level up a new one.

I'm pretty sure you at least get the coins back from a character you salvage, you may even get the xp but i'm bit more hazy on that.

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@shagge: Same here. This game gets shitty once you get to Grade 2. The Haters throughout the entire game level up to your highest grade. So you have a Grade 1 guy, you level up to Grade 2--now you need to start a new Grade 2 guy, while you're dealing with level 50 Haters armed with guns and fast melee weapons on every floor. It feels like they went "OK, you're probably hooked when you're at Grade 2, so we can start twisting the knife to get you to buy Death Metals."

I found it kind of abusive and I stopped playing.

I dont blame you, the whole tier system is shitty, if it doesnt even match you with people of a similar level then whats the point. It just feels like a way to make you grind whenever you make progress.

That being said i'm huge fan of these kind of games and i'm loving the style so i'm forcing myself to ignore /put up with some bs in the hopes that the other big bosses are as cool as the first.

So is there a forum thread or easily readable guide for this? Cause hoooo boy am I lost checking this out. It seems neat but unpacking these systems in the tutorial menus is rough.

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I wonder if something is wrong with my PS4. Looking at the game here things are just loading up faster and there are no texture pop-ins and 3 second pauses every time you go to the shop or simply open up your rolodex . I think some of the other issues might be due to connectivity ( not in the US)

Maybe they played on PS4 Pro? Are you on PS4 regular?

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So, does anyone know why this game isn't out in more places? They announced it would be out for USA and Europe but I'm from Europe (Portugal) and can't get this game on my country. After some research I've seen a bunch of people from other European countries saying they can't get the game as well.

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@quipido:PS4 regular. Wonder if we are going to get to a point where they need to mention that before every quick look. Weird times...

@homelessbird: Oh, That makes sense. I Can deal with 3 second pauses. At least they are not 30, now that you mentioned they could be.

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this is exclusive right?

=(

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I've played a little bit of this over the past week. It's okay, it's got a cool style to it for sure but I don't know. It presents itself as a Rogue-like but I feel like I've had so many awesome experiences with other games of that type this year that I don't feel like this one quite rates. I feel like the free to play-ness of it might be indicative of a lack of polish though it's hard to say having only played it sporadically up to the 9th floor. I can't help but wonder if Suda51 is a Dorohedoro fan because something about the look and flavor of this world reminds me of what little I've read of that comic.

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@north6 said:
@afashionablehat said:

@shagge: Same here. This game gets shitty once you get to Grade 2. The Haters throughout the entire game level up to your highest grade. So you have a Grade 1 guy, you level up to Grade 2--now you need to start a new Grade 2 guy, while you're dealing with level 50 Haters armed with guns and fast melee weapons on every floor. It feels like they went "OK, you're probably hooked when you're at Grade 2, so we can start twisting the knife to get you to buy Death Metals."

I found it kind of abusive and I stopped playing.

Wow, that sounds like fucking garbage. Glad i stopped early.

I'm the opposite, hit Grade 2 and still haven't had much problem leveling/not dying (much). I did have good armour/weapons upgraded though so any high level Hater wasn't to bad to take out easily. Just unlocked 3 Star characters before stopping last night and about to start leveling them up :)

EDIT: It's kind've similar to the Souls games where your level doesn't really matter, but things die a lot quicker in this (3-4 hits, usually).

EDIT2: To my knowledge, you can only be invaded by haters depending on your highest floor, so you won't have anything to higher level. If you are getting steamrolled by them you gotta upgrade your gear.

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This game makes we want to get a PS4. You think they will transport it to the personal computer?

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I'd just like to point out that the Youtube marketing for this game is god-awful -- like someone on the Marketing Team saw a live-action PS1 game commercial from one of GB's "Demo Derby" features and unironically said "Hey, that was a cool advert! Also, kids like memes, right? Totally tubular, dude!"

I have no opinion on the game itself. :b

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Having read the comments and I get a feel now for where it goes. I'm on the beginning side of things, so this is a definite future play by me. From what I seen, necessary in fact.

Thank you much for the QL. I can see it has a few systems and a lot of stats. Only negative is that the environment is kind of basic, but if you hang in there, that probably changes.

This game makes we want to get a PS4. You think they will transport it to the personal computer?

On impulse I listened to Killer 7's soundtrack yesterday. It's my dream Suda re-masters and gets that game onto pc for prosperity. He probably won't, though

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@matiaz_tapia said:

@quipido:PS4 regular. Wonder if we are going to get to a point where they need to mention that before every quick look. Weird times...

Right, that is not a good way to go (for Sony), feels like they are doing what they said they wouldn't do - leaving the older console behind already.

EDIT: also in your specific case I would try rebuilding the database on your console, I have had issues in some games before and it helped with texture pop-in and such, since it defragments the harddrive and makes data accesible as it should be. Here is a quick link with how to do it and some more discussion on the topic.

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I just beat the first Don (floor 10 boss). After that you get a new environment which is "the surface". The first 10 levels are all underground basically.

Beating the first Don also unlocks a vending machine in the waiting room where you can purchase an item with death coins that lets you log out mid floor without your character dying. There's also another very expensive item that is essentially a hearth stone for going back to the waiting room. It also sells food.

There's a lot to this game that isn't even shown in this QL cause they're still super early in the game. I imagine there's a lot that i still haven't seen.

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Man, I would love to play this with a few of my friends. Too bad its not for PC, I could see myself getting pretty into it. Uncle Death is the homie for sure.

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I'm having lots of problems playing GB videos since what looks like some kind of change. It's a real bummer.

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Anybody else think that decal says "MOSGUTTO?"

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LOL budget dark souls meets the division... of course it sucks.

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I've enjoyed the bit I've played of this over the last week. I'll make it to unlocking Grade 2 characters and see if it's as bad as some say.

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Downloaded it but yet to check it out, can certainly see the potential.

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It's always this mystery what Jeff will and won't like. Not in a million years would I think this game would grab his attention in any way.

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I can confirm if you eat a boomshroom it will kill you.

I.....may have accidentally ate one with my very first fighter and killed him...

it sucked.

I can also confirm this... I thought I could throw the damn thing, but NOPE just eat it and fucking explode. Shame on me, I suppose. What good are they? Do they have a use?

That said, I laughed it off and continued enjoying the game. My only real problem with it is that you can't just PAUSE. WHYYY?!?! Sure, I can run back to an area I cleared out and HOPE nothing comes after me, but just put an honest to God pause function in there, even if it's just for the single-player tower stuff. I am human and have to answer the door or pay attention to my partner at points or have to pee, just let me pause!

I swear I want to like this game more, but it makes it hard to look past some of the design choices.

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FYI: GB team, I cannot see my mouse in the player window thus cannot control it.

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@tanookisuit: You can throw shrooms by pressing the left side of the touchpad then X. You can also Pause the game by going into the DH Express menu option or you can do stuff while you are on the escalator between floors.

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@serujiow said:

@tanookisuit: You can throw shrooms by pressing the left side of the touchpad then X. You can also Pause the game by going into the DH Express menu option or you can do stuff while you are on the escalator between floors.

Awesome Thank you! This is some super useful stuff to know. I did usually try and get stuff done on the escalator. Didn't know different sides of the touchpad did anything different so never thought to try it. Way too much stuff to read if its explained anywhere in that tutorial part of the in-game book thing.

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become a hater

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@tanookisuit: Also, if you hold out frogs or mushrooms like you're about to throw them and stand next to a fire, you can roast them without throwing them. This is the only way to cook mushrooms with offensive effects, and is much easier and more efficient than trying to throw stuff at fires. Just watch for the button prompt at the bottom of the screen to change.

You can also cook stuff with the Fireworks gun, and there's a certain type of beast coming up where this knowledge will really come in handy.

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@humanity said:

It's always this mystery what Jeff will and won't like. Not in a million years would I think this game would grab his attention in any way.

He does seem to have some fondness for rogue-like-like-type-ish games at least. With that in mind I didn't find it so crazy that this has left a positive impression on him so far.

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@redyoshi said:
@humanity said:

It's always this mystery what Jeff will and won't like. Not in a million years would I think this game would grab his attention in any way.

He does seem to have some fondness for rogue-like-like-type-ish games at least. With that in mind I didn't find it so crazy that this has left a positive impression on him so far.

i also think he gravitates towards cheesy batshit insane bullshit

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@jhebbel said:

FYI: GB team, I cannot see my mouse in the player window thus cannot control it.

i'm sure this is addressed somewhere but @wcarle

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I'm having lots of problems playing GB videos since what looks like some kind of change. It's a real bummer.

there's a bug reporting thread, you should elaborate in there. (if you weren't aware they just released a new player)

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Grasshoppers visual style is apparent, but I also really enjoy their soundscape. It's always a mix of pachinko machines and violence. I love it!

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@redyoshi said:
@humanity said:

It's always this mystery what Jeff will and won't like. Not in a million years would I think this game would grab his attention in any way.

He does seem to have some fondness for rogue-like-like-type-ish games at least. With that in mind I didn't find it so crazy that this has left a positive impression on him so far.

i also think he gravitates towards cheesy batshit insane bullshit

I think it's more of the crazy angle as I don't recall him enjoying a whole lot of rogue-like run based games in the past. He likes those old ass arcade style games but thats different. This thing just seems kinda empty.. like Warframe seems to be in the same arena as this in terms of action based free-to-play games but the visuals and stuff just seem a lot cooler there.

I wanted to try it but for arbitrary reasons it's not available in my region. After the QL I dunno I think I'm good. I liked Killer is Dead well enough but that had a ton more styyyyyyllle going for it. Let It Die seems really drab in comparison.

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I just wanted to note that vape culture has ruined the word "cotton" for me and now I'm sad.

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I hope this'll make it to the PC at some point, at least Killer Is Dead and a few of GungHo's free to play games have been released on PC previously.

This game seems engaging enough, and I enjoy most of its style.

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@humanity:Duder was a big fan of Rogue Legacy tho, which this resembles mechanically in some ways

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Anyone know is this will come to PC?

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Anyone know if they are playing this on a pro or base model? Nevermind, found my answer.

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I really hope Jeff sticks with this, at least long enough to see the first boss. It's got one hell of a cutscene.

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Is there a way to opt out of multiplayer?

All I wanted was to upgrade my bank, and 10 minutes later, people are raiding my shit.

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The MGS 5 base stuff WAS a lot of fun to play in my opinion. Didn't understand why GB seemed to unanimously dislike it.

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A few things that were missed in the quick look.

  • You can taunt by pressing L1 + R2.
  • Pressing down on the d-pad will bring up the map.
  • On the map, the icon with a monster face. The one to the right of the elevator icon indicates a mini-boss. An icon with figure falling down is your Hater.
  • Sneak attacks work on Haters.
  • The exploding mushroom is great way to whittle down a high level hater and bosses.
  • Press X twice on downed enemies to stomp on them.
  • Sometimes the button prompt will not appear if you attack an enemy jumping down from above.

This happened to me but after passing the escalator on the seventh floor. A gate closed behind me and I could not go back. Of course I ran into a Hater and a bunch of Screamers and died.

There are times that the game is frustrating but I having a good time. I also like that Akira Yamaoka's music is in the game. I feel a bit nostalgic hearing some the Silent Hill sound effects in Let it Die.

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holy shit that's me at 37:27 i've been immortalized

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It's bizarre that you can't pause this game since there's ZERO real-time PVP...but it DOES have Suda's styyyyyyyyyyyyyle all over it, so it's got that going.

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@humanity: My thoughts exactly. I had doubts Jeff would like Let It Die, but given how invested I've become in the game it's been really satisfying to hear it included in bombcast conversation.

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I adore this game. I have about 20 hours without spending any money yet and will probably just give it money because I like Grasshopper.