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The Giant Beastcast: Episode 129

We've got some fun news about fun games, some sad news about sad layoffs, and just some weird news about Dan and Billy Squier. The world may never be the same after this one.

The Giant Bomb East team gathers to talk about the week in video games, their lives, and basically anything that interests them. All from New York City!

Nov. 10 2017

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It must be FRIIIIIDDAY!

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Yay! Early beastcast!

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I’m just here for the horror show that is Sonic Forces.

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And that's why you don't evoke string theory and Korn in the same conversation.

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Now that's why it called "BEAST" cast. Something is lurking in the studio

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woooooooooooo!

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I do not agree with the opinions on the faults of LA Noire in this podcast.

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The Xbox One X rules. Made me a believer on the difference that is 4k and HDR.

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I was sort of surprised to hear Alex say that the third season of the walking dead had a tepid reception. Since it's one of my favorite Telltale games, and generated a fair amount of excitement for the conclusion of that series.

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There's a colossal market of people that only ever play one sports game and a CoD and/or Battlefield a year, and then spice it up with the GTA games and maybe an Asssassin's Creed now and then. Their tastes aren't mine, so I couldn't tell you when they've had enough, but they're freaking everywhere. It doesn't matter one bit what metacritic score the WW2 game has, because those people know what they like and where to get it. It's just not reflected in online gaming communities because people here are enthusiastic enough about video games to probably play a bit more than only that stuff.

It makes sense to me if the more fantastical CoDs don't do as well, because what all of these have in common is that they're pretty mundane settings. The most scifi whenever CoD isn't out in space is Assassin's Creed, and that's just a framework for putting you into historically accurate settings.

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There's a colossal market of people that only ever play one sports game and a CoD and/or Battlefield a year, and then spice it up with the GTA games and maybe an Asssassin's Creed now and then. Their tastes aren't mine, so I couldn't tell you when they've had enough, but they're freaking everywhere. I doesn't matter one bit what metacritic score the WW2 game has, because those people know what they like and where to get it. It's just not reflected in online gaming communities because people here are enthusiastic enough about video games to probably play a bit more than only that stuff.

It makes sense to me if the more fantastical CoDs don't do as well, because what all of these have in common is that they're pretty mundane settings. The most scifi whenever CoD isn't out in space is Assassin's Creed, and that's just a framework for putting you into historically accurate settings.

I've been in conversations a few times lately where relative strangers bring up video games, and every time they did it was either to talk about Destiny 1 or to complain about how CoD got too crazy with the future robot stuff. They really are everywhere, and it's the reason why I'm not surprised stuff like CoD WWII sells so well.

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Good luck.

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My day was good and this has kept it good. :)

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I was just telling my bud about this but Jonathan Davis showed up in OK KO and it's the best thing Korn has done in years

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This podcast gave me an extended peak into Dan's mind and I'm gleefully horrified by all of it.

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Abby Russel: "I like to think of myself as a smart person".

As far as I can tell this is the only significant difference between her and Dan.

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Best part of my Friday is listening to the Beastcast. Thanks all around!

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Judging by the comments on last weeks episode I don't think people were saying you hate Xbox.

I think they just want you to be more knowledgeable, or just say "I'm not sure" or "I don't know" instead of guessing.

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I don't even own COD:WW2, but its so sad to hear the GB crew talk about it. They just dislike the World War setting, but talk like the game itself is worst then previous COD games. And don't explain very well whats going on in the game. Both west and east came pretty bad on the comments about the game, imo.

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@redhotchilimist: I'm making smalltalk with people a lot at my job, and people often ask me if I play any games. What they're really asking me is if I play CoD and Madden. I had one girl ask if I played 'Zombies'. This gave me pause. Left 4 Dead? Dead Rising? Dead Island? No, Zombies means CoD zombie mode which is apparently also very popular.

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Gonna love me some fridays!

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Haaa, they did the Rogue Galaxy/Rebel Galaxy mix-up too. It's pernicious. Even as someone who has completed both and know they're completely different, there's something just generic enough about those names that I always confuse them.

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Dan has a loose, sparkly "She's A Maniac" sweater somewhere in his closet?

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Oh man, Rebel Galaxy is so damn good. Such a underrated gem.

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Feels like it's the 3rd time we have the Beastcast talking about "everyone calls us fans of this and haters of that and actually..." I feel like if you still get that kinda hatemail you should stop addressing these people, you can only tell us so and so many times that "just buy the system that your friends are on" without it getting kinda tiring.

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It really makes me sad that when people speak of visual novels this year all they say is Dream Daddy, when Danganronpa V3, Chaos;Child and Even Little Busters came out during this year.

Anyway, best Telltale game is definitely Tales from the Borderlands, follow by The Wolf Among Us and The Walking Dead Season 1.

Worst Telltale game is without a doubt Game of Thrones, followed by Batman.

I was excited for a second season of The Wolf Among Us, but seeing the recent games that they made is making me really anxious about it.

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Root beer.

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I do not know if the crew reads comments or not... But here's a suggestion for GoTY:

- You could totally work whatever you are missing on your spread sheet as a content feature between now and then. It not only would help you guys time-wise, but I really think it would be a thing people would like to watch.

Great podcast as always!

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The 3rd season of TWD is actually pretty good. The backlash came from a very vocal minority who were upset with what was chosen to be canonical from the season 2.

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SONIC FORCES TALK, here we go!

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Is that image Vinny's high school yearbook photo?

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#1 Podcast in the known timeline! Best tagline!

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"I totally possessed my dad!"

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Hey! I'm the Jim from Boston! That was awesome to get the KotC call out at the end of the episode, even if my bday was last month.

Also, Dan, I don't hate you. I promise. I just strongly disagree with a lot of things you say... most things you say... I kind of just tune you out at this point. But, you keep being you!

Thanks for all the awesome work everyone on the bomb and beast crews do. And I'll get you back for this Matt of Boston!

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Abby should catch some of the past GOTY discussions; she seems very agitated and i think her fears about smaller or indie games not being represented would be quickly quelled

(what is not represented is some genres usually, see RPGS)

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@crimsonsilver4: You play TWD S3? Because I would have agreed with you, but I just finished that and woof.

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@chicken008: This. It comes across as 'hate' because they bash something without knowing the full details of it or giving it a shot. If you don't like the games or the platform that's fine, I'm not really crazy on PS's games but like MS's and Nintendo's (aside from BotW) offerings. However present that as the opinion and on things like the dashboard don't act like it is objectively bad (it's not) but you just aren't familiar or use the system enough. If you haven't looked at anything related to the X, don't speak like you have and shit on the system or brand. Just say "I don't know enough to comment". Instead they are almost willingly ignorant on things and act like it's confusing (such as who the X is for).

As a teacher, I get asked stuff all the time and vets tell you the correct response is "I'm not sure" or "I'll need to look it up". Don't just make up stuff and treat it as fact. It's ok to accept you aren't perfect instead of digging your heels in in denial.

I still like you guys and have a postcard I plan on sending but it's annoying to hear, especially when that similar sentiment has been the norm for 4 years now.

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I'm bracing myself for disappointment with GOTY podcasts when I think about how few games anyone but Alex and Dan actually finished this year. That's okay though as long as it's entertaining so fingers crossed. I feel like I would be talking mess about Dan's dumb Billy Squier thing but I remembered I've done the same thing with 4-syllables and the Smooth Criminal lyrics. For example: "Cara- are you -vella? Cara- are you -vella? Are you -vella Cara-?" or "Abby are you Russel?" ect. Vinny, Alex, Abby, and Bakalar are awesome and make this the best weekly podcast. Thanks for everything you guys do.

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@crimsonsilver4: You play TWD S3? Because I would have agreed with you, but I just finished that and woof.

I haven't. The second season (and the 400 Days DLC) were a bit of a disappointment for me, and I don't really see them picking up the magic that the first season had when I played it.

Maybe one day when I find it on sale. Or when the final season comes out.

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As long as the Beastcast can somehow care enough about Yakuza 0 to get it on the list for GOTY then I'm happy. I haven't been this excited for GOTY in a long time and it's because there's no telling what both Ben and Abby will bring to the table.

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It really makes me sad that when people speak of visual novels this year all they say is Dream Daddy, when Danganronpa V3, Chaos;Child and Even Little Busters came out during this year.

I'm not at all surprised that those sort of VNs don't get much mention. Even disregarding the general aversion to anime (both art-style and, let's face it, even the best VNs are laden with awful anime tropes), the biggest factor is probably length. Getting the true end of Chaos;Child is damn near fifty hours. Even if any of the duders were into VNs, they tend to be really slow to get going, and in their line of work, they can't really afford to sink a bunch of time into super niche Japanese quasi-games if it doesn't immediately hook them. I'm not massively into VNs myself, but I do play and enjoy a few, and even for me, length is a big issue. Some of my favourites are stuff like VA-11 Hall-A and Planetarian, because they're more compact, shorter experiences. Even in truly fantastic games such as Steins;Gate (one of my favourite games of all time), spending a massive chunk of time just skipping through stuff you've seen to get to new routes, etc, can get tedious. The medium in general suffers from a severe lack of brevity.

The only people talking about the likes of C;C and Little Busters are the people already into them. It's a shame, because playing through Chaos;Child myself, I'm super enjoying it, but it's not at all surprising you won't see any mention of them on places like here.

Doki Doki Literature Club is another VN from this year that's had quite a bit of discussion, and while it is free, it's also only a few hours long, so is incredibly accessible compared to most Japanese offerings. A lot of people are more likely to be willing to play a good, but short VN than a truly fantastic, but incredibly long one.

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I don't say this a lot, but Dan is super correct, Motion Blur sucks. There's very few games where I'll leave it turned on, it almost always just makes the game look worse.

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I hate motion blur it gives me motion sickness. I'm glad the beastcast came out and straight out said they hate the xbox.

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@infinity_thor: I think that they have always been very clear about the degree with which they have used the Xbox, so I'm not sure what else you want them to say? They're speaking to their opinion, based on their experience. You're almost implying like they're lying about having an experience at all. I guess if you want to argue that their point is a little too concrete for something they haven't used much, fine, but then we come back to the same issue I had last week which was: why does this bother you? Is it going to influence your purchase? It doesn't sound like it will because you already know that they don't have a tremendous amount of time spent with it so...who cares? If it bothers you any more than that, then I think you're tiptoeing into the same silly brand loyalty territory that they're sort of making light of here.

Maybe it's just my take, but I still feel like they are barely negative on it. Seem more indifferent or not really sure of it's long term value given how this generation has gone. To assume that it's because they think it's a bad system or that someone that likes it made a bad decision just seems like people are spoiling for something to be upset or argumentative about.

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@skinnersweet: @uninvincible: Yeah Dan is super right - fuck motion blur. It's nauseating. It's the first thing I always turn off in settings.

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I'm not superstitious, I'm just stitious.

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@danryckert hey man, when you figure that hdr out on your tv (i have the same lg b55), fire up Infamous First Light on PS4 for 5 minutes. It's worth it.