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The Giant Beastcast: Episode 42

Witness the stunning conclusion to our Coleco Chameleon coverage. Also, we get some Division impressions, news on the status of Lionhead Studios and Radiant Entertainment, and Bill Gates getting back into the game.

The Giant Bomb East team gathers to talk about the week in video games, their lives, and basically anything that interests them. All from New York City!

Mar. 11 2016

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What a way to begin a friday!

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I've never wanted a Colecovision more than I have this last week. Damn you, Chameleon.

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Friday work procrastination begins, NOW!

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hooray, its a beast cast

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Oh man, 5 minutes in and everyone is on today. I feel this is a gonna be a good one.

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Coleco Chameleon Time XD

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The Chameleon is the most fitting name for a game console since the Phantom - kind of amazing actually, considering all that happened.

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I'm actually a little sad that the Chameleon story is (presumably) over. Some really weird stuff you don't see happen often.

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Yet again, the answer lies with the number 42. Turns out that the question was actually, "On which Beastcast episode will we finally discover how this Chameleon tale ends?"

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The Coleco Chameleon? I've heard about this on the Bombcast, hope the Beast guys could maybe give a second opinion on it!

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Now thats what I call... a Karma Chameleon

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Best way to get through a Friday in the office.

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Why sleep when you can listen to an early morning Beastcast instead?

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B-B-B-B-Beastcast!!!!

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More VR talk that is unrelatable to 99% of the audience! HYPEEEE

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@humanity said:

The Coleco Chameleon? I've heard about this on the Bombcast, hope the Beast guys could maybe give a second opinion on it!

That is the downside of recording later in the week, always getting scooped by the west coast on hot stories like this.

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WOOO

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I've been looking forward to this after the Coleco Chameleon mess hit the fan earlier this week. WOOO! Happy Friday ya'll!

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The Drama XD

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Bring me the beast, bring me the poison.

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Age of Empires? Now there is a game series!

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The 'Coleco Saga' of the beastcast has been my 'fav' xD

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The Retro VGS/Chameleon has been the gift that keeps on giving.

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Effie is a cool character in the new Fire Emblem.

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@humanity said:

The Coleco Chameleon? I've heard about this on the Bombcast, hope the Beast guys could maybe give a second opinion on it!

The Coleco Chameleon has been a topic on the Beastcast for at least 3 weeks in a row now.

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@humanity said:

The Coleco Chameleon? I've heard about this on the Bombcast, hope the Beast guys could maybe give a second opinion on it!

The Coleco Chameleon has been a topic on the Beastcast for at least 3 weeks in a row now.

You're kidding me!

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If there's not a crashed exotic car and a man named Dietrich it's not a real video game hardware scam.

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Releasing episode 42 on Douglas Adams' birthday. Well done.

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The great Coleco Chameleon saga of 2016. Got to say the Beast Cast might be my favourite cast of giant bomb followed by Alt+F1.

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Molyneux is Missing?

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Austin brought up Flower, Sun, and Rain, which is a game that I love. I feel like the way you talked about it made it sound like it was poorly-designed, but the game is kind of actively hostile to the player. It is fully aware of how obnoxious it is, of the fact that it's going to make you run miles just to see a short cutscene that teleports you back to where you started only to then make the same run on the next day.

Also, it wasn't Suda's first game or anything. It's actually a sort-of sequel to one of his previous games, The Silver Case. Many of the characters in FSR are either directly from that or are related to it.

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Every time they talk about the Coleco Chameleon the song Karma Chameleon gets stuck in my head for the rest of the day. Damn you Beast/Bombcast.

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Great Friday Beastcast for while I plug away at The Division.

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As someone who recently had the chance to try the consumer version of the Rift I'm actually super happy about the conversation they had during the podcast.

It's been hard to relate to these conversations before I had the chance to try one of these for myself, but I do think there's value there.

I've actually been kind of bummed out about VR ever since I had the chance to try it, and I just want to echo the concerns voiced on the podcast. I'm in the same boat where I can see the pixel grid and I'm also bothered by the image not covering my entire field of view, like there's this "black" space where there shouldn't be - and these problems have kind of unsold me on VR.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still excited about where the tech is heading... but I'm afraid VR just isn't for me. Not until screen pixel density and field of view gets improved to the point where I hit that "immersion sweet spot". Guess it'll just be different from person to person.

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I really want to see like a bidding war between Casper Mattress and Leesa Mattress. Maybe one only backs the Bombcast and the other one backs the Beastcast and the ad spots have East vs West beef.

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@jeff, you don't know jack :3

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@nishastra: Yup! The essay that I wrote that finally got me committed to games academia was making the exact case you make here about the game being specifically built to be antagonistic to the player!

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I appreciated that Dr. Zizmor reference, haha.

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The start of the podcast is so very Gbeast! I love it.

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So far the opinions of all the GB crew about the Division are exactly what I expected. It seems mediocre, and a passable loot-shooter at best. Glad I didn't buy into the hype. May pick it up later when it's cheaper as a fill-in between Destiny expansions though.

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Man you guys are not wrong about The Division but boy I'm loving the Division.

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@austin_walker: @alex: @vinny: I've been writing about video games professionally for about six years now in varying degrees. I have always gotten the question from some people "Should I buy this game?" I get that question more outside of my reviews than I do inside of them. The thing I've always noticed in comments for reviews, and you all can attest to this as well, is people looking for validation on their preconceived notions about a game.

I am not going to call game criticism or game reviews bullshit, because I think they both serve a different, important purpose (and because I enjoy doing it). However, something I noticed from almost day one, was that for the most part, game reviews don't often mean much to the sales of a game. Between games that get critically panned still selling big, and games that get high scores across the board selling for shit, I've come to realize that reviews only matter to a fraction of the "core" audience that is in itself a fraction of the game playing audience.

It's why I have always been in favor of outlets ditching the whole "product review" mentality. People are more likely to use Amazon user reviews, or Steam user reviews as a bar of quality for a game than any one, or group, of reviews. Make it about criticism. It's something Giant Bomb has done a lot of, but a lot of outlets still do weird bullet points and pro/con lists like I am trying to buy a fucking vacuum.

As you guys mentioned, with the people actually looking for buying advice going to your streams, Quick Looks, YouTube, etc., the audience is dwindling, and at some point they just need to be left behind. It's how the medium grows.

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I have no idea why you guys feel bad for the enemies in The Division. THIS is my experience with shooting hoodlums in the back.

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...except for a disappointing lack of Danny Glover, Bill Paxton and Gary Busey.

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@austin_walker: i imagine you don't have any time, but you should give a try to Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri. That's a 4x sci-fi game that had an amazing amount of flavor (especially with the awesome videos for the made-up sci-fi wonders!). There should be a working version on gog

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The part where the guys realized that THEY are the real looters blew my mind.