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The Giant Beastcast: Episode 49

Nintendo drops some news about its E3 plans, we've got our PAX highlights, Jeff wants people to get off his grass, and we reveal exclusive details about the "Forty Hands" incident.

The Giant Bomb East team gathers to talk about the week in video games, their lives, and basically anything that interests them. All from New York City!

Apr. 29 2016

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I'm ready, give me the update on the Coleco Chameleon

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Found it!

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Sneaky podcast

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Undercover podcast

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is pyre just another take on "the blood of heroes/ salute to the jugger"?

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Finally. :)

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Is Brett on this Beastcast?

EDIT: OH Jeff Backalar.. I thought for a second Jeff flew in for some reason..

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Old man Backalar

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sometimes i'm sad and then theres a beastcast & the sadness fades away

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3 weeks until the first full year run.

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Based on the world and atmosphere of the game, I'm guessing the "Sport Combat" of Pyre is at least partially inspired by the "Mesoamerican Ballgame" which is an ancient sport with important ritual elements.

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@burgavo: I know right, it feels like we're being overwhelmed with those these days.

Are you high?

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Exclusive!?

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multiple lower intestinal convos, great for all my hangover needs

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Nintendo push the NX to march cause they want to change it to the Nintendo Chameleon!

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Oh man I'd forgotten about Forty Hands

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lol, at alex's story, they do the same thing here for snow clearing, it's technically illegal to park on the street when theres more then ~3 inches of snow so the plows can get around.

Its too much paperwork/time to impound the cars so they just move them around the corner, had some tense moments after a late night at work.

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Alex: So I played this music game. It's also in VR, but I played the normal version...

Vinny: Wait wait wait isn't that also in VR?

Alex: Yes...

Vinny: And did you play that?

Alex: No...

I think what Vinny really caught at PAX was a mild case of sleepybrad. Get well soon, man!

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Starting at Power Forward, from the Temple of Ahn'Qiraj... C'Thuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuun!

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Jeff Backalar: Don't apologize for telling some piece of shit, self absorbed kid to kill himself. As a father of two great boys, I find your response completely justified. Keep being a good dad.

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You guys have the most listenable audio in podcasts. Never change! <3 <3 <3

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There's not gonna be any need for historians when AI can spit out books and papers and articles 1000x faster and better than any human possibly could, don't worry about it.

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@cale: Grad students and profs everywhere just died a little inside.

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I'm actually enjoying the new Hearthstone expansion a lot, but I agree with Alex about the C'thun decks. The problem isn't even C'thun itself though; it's Twin Emperor Vek'lor. Getting two 4/6 minions with taunt for 7 mana is a little ridiculous, and the stipulation is almost never going to be an issue.

I was so happy to see Dr.7 leave standard, but this card is just as annoying.

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@noelle808: Yeah, any time I have encountered a deck with Vek'lor I have not survived long past him being played. That feels like one that's gonna get tweaked somewhere down the road.

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Oh god the Dark Souls honor crowd can be somethin' else at times.

I understand it more for using the red signs for duels, I wouldn't heal there either unless the opponent did so first. But man if you invade I'm gonna drink estus, throw bombs, hit you during your honorable bow, whatever it takes to get you the fuck outta my world.

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The reason some people don't estus during pvp invasion in Dark Souls 3 is because the invader in Dark Souls 1 couldn't heal using estus. Therefore in that game is was somewhat honorable for the host not to use his estus. That is, if the host was down with that sort of pvp.

This simply has transfered over to Dark Souls 3, where it sounds a little odd because the invader can in fact heal using estus this time.

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Man this Beastcast is one of the New Yorkiest in some time.

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Giant Bomb Unplugged: Mech Deck. There needs to be more Unplugged features.

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This podcast is some really great content from some great content creators. Now if only we could solve the age-old question of "Who was that lady that waved?"

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Can we send the hosts who didn't know Grok a copy of Stranger in a Strange land? Man @austin_walker can you write about what you think of Heinlein? He is one of my favorite sci-fi authors...I expect not one of yours given the authors I have heard you talk about...

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Austin has no sense of honor! A funny use of emotes and keeping to some unwritten rules is what can make darksouls pvp so much better than just MMO ganking or something like that.

Not everyone should be expected to act that way, but it it does make it more entertaining if both parties follow certain rules.

To keep to their war analogy, war is not just a lawless bloodbath. There have always been written and unwritten rules to try to keep it a bit more civil. How to treat prisoners for instance.

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I appreciate that Jeff pronounces Mario correctly.

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I always love hearing some Hearthstone talk from Alex - would definitely love to see a little Old Gods video content from the Beast crew. To throw in my feelings so far, I've not been playing anything C'thun (or in fact any of the Old Gods yet, despite picking Yogg-Saron up in my first round of packs) but I've been having a fantastic time.

I'd say I have about a 75% winrate so far against C'thun decks - it's one card in 30, so most of the time you don't even see it before they die and even if it comes out it's not been a guaranteed win for them. I suspect that'll shift over time as those decks are honed, but I don't think they're going to completely dominate. Vel'kor is definitely super strong, so maybe that'll see some tweaking, but even that isn't usually quite enough to end things. N'zoth seems like it could fit into a lot of different styles, though.

As a note - if you have any intention of playing Hearthstone during this set release, be sure to hop on this week as you'll get C'thun and 3 free packs, plus about 10 more free packs just for playing a few matches of Standard Constructed.

EDIT: wanted to throw in my 2 cents on the Dark Souls invasion discussion. If you're summoning someone in for a fight (red or purple sign) then I'd go into it wanting to duel, which for me means no healing. When it's just a standard invasion, though, anything goes. Personally I will generally give the invader the chance to fight me one-on-one, but the moment they heal or try to lure me into enemies all bets are off. Conversely, if I invade I won't heal or use dirty tactics if the host is down to duel, but if I get rushed by multiple enemies then I'll use any trick in the book to get that kill, and I'm fine with that. I love a fair fight, but you should never expect it.

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Children of Zodiarcs sounds really cool, instantly added to my steam wishlist!

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If this is the "Forty hands incident" I'm thinking of then I'm really excited.

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I've never given a podcast a standing ovation before, but then Jeff told his story.

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@ds9143 said:

Jeff Backalar: Don't apologize for telling some piece of shit, self absorbed kid to kill himself. As a father of two great boys, I find your response completely justified. Keep being a good dad.

So - to defend the smoker a little bit, but only a little, the science for second hand smoke is pretty weak honestly (and as I have a biochemistry degree and have looked into it I do know what I am talking about here). The FDA changed how it defined class A carcinogens so that it could classify it as a class A carcinogen. Not good science. White males, and smokers are the classes of people you can be prejudiced against currently. Given it is one event, given it was in the open air it is extremely unlikely there will be any health effects on Jeff's son.

All this said - was it impolite and dickish? Most certainly. Jeff actually could have sued the smoker under many states laws for battery for assault as the particles of smoke would be considered instrumentalities under his control, assuming he blew at the kid intentionally. Of course the smoker could likely sue Jeff for assault if he felt that Jeff was about to hit him (as assault is the fear of an imminent battery) (I am also a lawyer - though I specialize in patent law - letter about the copyright embroligo at youtube incoming).

For the other law thing in the podcast (man this was a great law one) there could be an argument your car had undergone tresspass to chattels which is basically a lower level of theft - though New York law may be different.

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C'thun and Mind Control: A Cautionary Tale:

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People with well thought out and expensive looking C'thun decks have destroyed me but there are a loooot of people playing it super carelessly just cause it's such an easy big number.

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@alex re: C'thun decks, the C'thun archetype is a strong mid-game deck, but most aggro decks like Aggro Shaman and Zoo Warlock can outpace them and heavy control decks (Priest, Warrior, Druid, Paladin, Mage) usually outlast them and have answers for their big threats. There are those times when druids ramp out perfectly and crush me beneath giant minions, but for the most part it's pretty fair. I've had more fun with a bunch of different aggro, control and more familiar mid-range decks like hunter in the past few days than I've had in months.

I do think that the barrier to entry is still too high, even with a bunch of cards cycling out, because the new class legendaries are almost universally great. I really hope you and Austin do a livestream in the future! You can also safely dust any of the recently nerfed cards if you want to fill out your C'thun/whatever lists, the full refund really adds up if any were golden.

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I'm a smoker and i thought it was normal, basic understood etiquette that if you encounter kids or pregnant women on the streets you simply avoid smoking or exhaling till they are far enough. What a fucking prick that guy, you handled it perfectly Jeff B

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"It's not called Color Splash!" "It's definitely not called that."

Poor Jeff.