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VoidBurger's Hot Takeouts: Why We Can't Escape Firewatch

Voidburger is BACK to reheat some hot takes and examine why we can't seem to escape the world of Firewatch! What is Firewatch?

Potentially strange gaming opinions and analysis arrives fresh out of the oven in VoidBurger's Hot Takeouts.

Sep. 24 2021

Cast: Jess

Posted by: Jan

In This Episode:

Firewatch

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Should I (finally) play the game before watching this?

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This is absolutely 100% a Giant Bomb video, and I am HERE for it.

Too many highlights in the video to list. Hoping we see more.

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I really enjoyed this

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Edited By hughesie27

Why not avoid this whole thing and just have a genre called Interactive Experiences or something.

That way 'Game' purists can avoid.

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More Voidburger

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Great video! I have definitely fallen into the "It should have been something other than a game!" camp at times but your point about exposure and accessibility swayed me. I don't personally love those types of games, but they're still games, and there are obviously a lot of gamers who do love them.

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This was a very good video, VB

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This isn't a hot take!


...it's a hot takeout :D

Love this, love seeing VB on the site, can't wait for the next one!

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Recently playing through 12 Minutes recently put things into perspective with the twitch clip of Voidburger saying the Firewatch ending "wasn't game-ruiningly, cataclysmically bad." She's right, 12 Minutes is that example, not Firewatch

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Love these videos, more voidburger on the site plz.

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This was very good. Thank you

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Oooh boy, I'm kinda ashamed to admit that I didn't "get" the end of "The Beginner's Guide" until now (though I still loved the whole thing at the time, I was just very confused at that bit).

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I can't believe I was able to dodge the ending of Firewatch for 5 and a half years, until Voidburger comes around and spoils the whole thing for me

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I loved the way the story wraps up in Firewatch. I love the government conspiracy fake-out. I think I would have really disliked or that the game wouldn't have stuck with me if it had a more expected ending.

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@remmy said:

My issue with Firewatch's ending isn't that it was unsatisfying, I like that you never met Delilah, etc, the problem is that the elaborateness of the ruse never felt justified to me. The whole point was to keep people from finding the boy's remains, but according to the timeline, the father had basically a whole year between summers to move/destroy the body or just get the heck outta dodge. Instead he decides to stay at the scene of the crime and concoct an elaborate system of false evidence to gaslight the next Firewatcher? I just don't get the logic.

Absolutely loved the video though, looking forward to more hot takeouts!

Re the spoiler - the answer is "Grief and Shame" not logic.

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Getting real SuperBunnyHop vibes,

digging this a lot!

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Edited By whitegreyblack

Another excellent video Voidburger!! Possibly the best content on the site right now.

Was Rich Evans wrong about Firewatch? Yes. Also: No. Also: Maybe. That's what's great about Art... and also: what's frustrating about Art!

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Now I gotta go get a hot takeout!

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I really enjoyed Firewatch

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Video reminds me how much I love firewatch. I need to play it again sometime. Great video VB! :)

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I ADORED this game- thanks for the video

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I love Rich Evans but his gaming opinions infuriated me, and it's no surprise PreRec didn't last.

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Super agree with this hot takeout. The longer I sit with Firewatch's ending, the more I like it. Well articulated points here.

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More VoidBurgery goodness. This is both an evaluation and a request.

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Edited By Brenderous

this is a perfect video to put on giant bomb.

edit: the green screen bit at the end 🤌

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It's also funny how much video games need to be this or that.... why can't ppl just see that some games are not for them and move on

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This was great! Thanks for the art thoughts!

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RICH EVANS!!!

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Really appreciate the thoughtfulness, variety, and quality of your work Voidburger. You're doing great

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If math is icky then I don't want to be clean.

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Edited By gortonimo

Everything about this vEssay is spot on, but don't shit on Rich Evans. Imagine if Gerstmann spent his life thus far absorbing movies and TV but got asked to come on his friend's show to talk about a video game; Rich Evans.

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@Jan this video doesn't seem to be appearing on the show page.

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Great video VB! Rich Evans is a national treasure.

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Excellent video!

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Dig your Hot Take, Jess. I think it isn't a game, but that's okay, and I still like it. But the ending was a bummer. I like lots of things that aren't video games. Some stuff on steam are less like games and more like other things. There's many 'games' that are actually more like toys. Townscaper for one, and it's lovely! And visual novels are basically illustrated choose your own adventure ebooks. If a choose your own adventure book is a game, what about just a regular book? Because there are visual novels without any choices that are 100% linear. They are certainly aren't games, are they? And I've read a couple that were good. My thesis is okay that walking sims aren't games, but that's okay, not every story needs gameplay.

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This made me reconsider the ending to this. I just took it as an ending that wasn't satisfying, and finding peace with that. This is a true Hot Take.

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@xenonxylophone said:

Does this video go into spoiler territory? I bought Firewatch recently and haven't played it yet.

I'm back to say that Firewatch is great, and so is this video

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I never even considered people would be displeased with the ending of Firewatch. Not talking about everyone of course, but a lot of MFers must have been showing that they don't consume any media other than videogames. That specific feeling it was leaving you with is a classic film ending.