Maybe i'm turning into one of the old people I swore to never become when I was a kid, but I hate current gen shooters. I find the re-spawn, auto-aim, and matchmaking systems all terrible, and even though Socom 4 lived up to  about 20% of its potential I still find my self enjoying the MP a thousand times more then Killzone 3, bulletstorm, crysis 2, or black ops.

 I feel the same way to an extent. Though I can enjoy "modern" shooters with the items you mentioned (re-spawn, matchmaking, etc), I have always and still gravitate towards games like Socom and Counter-Strike. Socom 2 specifically is perhaps the most fun I've had with a shooter. Which makes me all the more sad that Socom 4 turned out the way it did (at least judging from the reviews and peoples opinions). Even so I still want to pick it up and see for myself. Maybe when the price goes down.

Personally, like many, I loved Socom 2 and think it was the height of the series. In my opinion Socom made 2 fatal mistakes which have killed what I loved about.  They made the teams too big and they added respawn.  I loved the small team tactical combat of 1 and 2, the feeling of being the last man alive against 4+ members of the other team.  Sneaking around with an M4A1-SD and slowly taking them out as your whole team is watching.  Those were the great moments and what made Socom so great.  Now with larger teams they cannot make it round based because you could die early and be sitting for way too long, so they have to make it respawn and that kills the careful, tactical play and just leads to more run and gun blind charging.  I want to love this game, I want to get that old feeling back but I think it is lost.  Whether the genre has just moved passed it or no one is willing to gamble on a game like that again I don't think we will ever see something as great as Socom 2 in the current gen.

I saw the draw of SOCOM and SOCOM 2 when my cousin owned and played them. Maybe it's because of the wave of FPS's spoiling me since then, but I don't see the draw as strongly as I once did. I just imagine myself becoming frustrated with the online.

I'm loving the multplayer on this game so far.

I was a HUGE fan of Socom 1 and 2 back on the PS2.  Confrontation was okay, but did not hold my attention too long.  There is something about Socom 4 that reminds me of those times playing Socom 1 and 2.  I'm definitely hooked, regardless of what reviews and others say.

This game is a weird one for me. It feels so generic and honestly it's pretty ho-hum. BUT, I am enjoying my time playing it. Suppose I really am a Socom guy. If you have not played Socom before, i would say for sure that this game is a rental at best.

As long as I have been playing shooters online Socom has been the only game that hooks me in. From the original to confrontation to S4.

Considering Confrontation was the closest we are ever going to get to going back to those warm fuzzy days of SOCOM 2, it has quite the negative rap.

-Confrontation
-SOCOM style lobbies (Requested by community over matchmaking, Slant six listened)
-Post release scoreboard adjustment(Requested by community)
-Dpad lean (Requested by community)
-Two different viewing angles: Over the shoulder and Classic SOCOM (Requested by the community)

SOCOM 4
-Abandoned?
-Not as Glitchy as SOCOM 1?
-Zipper makes BAAAAAAD SP.

I obviously haven't been playing the multiplayer very much, but I really like the singleplayer a lot.
Many modern shooters like this have an extremely streamlined campaign with a very specific path to follow, but I feel that this here is more open... You have AI trying to actively flank you and stuff at times and multiple routes to take, even if the checkpoint markers wouldn't leave you to believe so. I think it makes the instances like when they are charging you on the dam to get to the control room and not flushing you out with grenades like they usually do, more forgiving.
Only thing I wish was that attack and move orders wasn't on the same button, but it works alright.

To lighten the mood, of this gloomy toned thread, I think we can all confirm that no one is playing the game online right now...so that should say something?

" Maybe i'm turning into one of the old people I swore to never become when I was a kid, but I hate current gen shooters. I find the re-spawn, auto-aim, and matchmaking systems all terrible, and even though Socom 4 lived up to  about 20% of its potential I still find my self enjoying the MP a thousand times more then Killzone 3, bulletstorm, crysis 2, or black ops.

What do you guys think?

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Wow cool now all you need is for PSN to be back up

yah i love the MP. its still my favorite as far as shooters go. tactical is always the best and socom does it better than anyone

Cant make fixes when you cant even log in.....

" yah i love the MP. its still my favorite as far as shooters go. tactical is always the best and socom does it better than anyone "

" Cant make fixes when you cant even log in..... "

" @OneManX said:

" Cant make fixes when you cant even log in..... "

Oh PSN jokes, how you never get old.  :\ "

when i was playing the beta i thought it was ok. but it really just kind of felt like a 3rd person COD with a really bad camera. I really wanted to like SOCOM 4. i think the graphics and the details on the soldier looked damn good. but gameplay wise. it just didnt do it for me.

" when i was playing the beta i thought it was ok. but it really just kind of felt like a 3rd person COD with a really bad camera. I really wanted to like SOCOM 4. i think the graphics and the details on the soldier looked damn good. but gameplay wise. it just didnt do it for me. "