There Will Be More Sonic 4 Episodes, Sega Knows There Were Problems

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I know most of you didn't care for Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode 1, but where there is money, there are sequels. Even though the critical response to Sonic's downloadable entry, Sega's moving forward.

"It's [Sonic the Hedgehog 4] for those of us who played Battlefield but also play Sonic," said Sega of America and Europe president Mike Hayes in an interview with me this morning. "We get a blast from that for historical reasons. That's where Sonic 4 was aimed. We were very pleased with the first one."

When Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode 1 was first unveiled, gamers pushed back (carts!). Sega took the reaction under advisement and made some tweaks that funneled into the console and iOS releases. It wasn't enough to get everyone on board, but Sonic fans are a critical bunch.

"I know there were some quality issues that we had there that we've taken on board and there will be further episodes following up on that," added Hayes. "I think the next one's excellent. I think that's going to overcome some of the issues that we had on the first one."

Despite the critics, it's going forward. Why?

"Commercially, it's been hugely successful across all platforms."

Bingo.

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#1 Posted by patrickklepek (6436 posts) -
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I know most of you didn't care for Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode 1, but where there is money, there are sequels. Even though the critical response to Sonic's downloadable entry, Sega's moving forward.

"It's [Sonic the Hedgehog 4] for those of us who played Battlefield but also play Sonic," said Sega of America and Europe president Mike Hayes in an interview with me this morning. "We get a blast from that for historical reasons. That's where Sonic 4 was aimed. We were very pleased with the first one."

When Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode 1 was first unveiled, gamers pushed back (carts!). Sega took the reaction under advisement and made some tweaks that funneled into the console and iOS releases. It wasn't enough to get everyone on board, but Sonic fans are a critical bunch.

"I know there were some quality issues that we had there that we've taken on board and there will be further episodes following up on that," added Hayes. "I think the next one's excellent. I think that's going to overcome some of the issues that we had on the first one."

Despite the critics, it's going forward. Why?

"Commercially, it's been hugely successful across all platforms."

Bingo.

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#2 Edited by nail1080 (2025 posts) -

cool 
 
sonic sucks

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#3 Posted by rmanthorp (4527 posts) -

Whatever. :/

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#4 Posted by DenJ (51 posts) -

More Sonic...... Come on Sega.

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#5 Posted by masternater27 (939 posts) -

Lolz

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#6 Posted by TadThuggish (990 posts) -

"It's okay guys, this one will surely be true to the original games!"

Again, and again, and again, and again...

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#7 Posted by nintendoeats (6222 posts) -

Patrick! Proofreading! Tisk tisk.

I don't really see a need for any Sonic game after Sonic 2 to be honest. I think that represents the limits of the game's potential.

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#8 Posted by leejunfan83 (1156 posts) -

good for sonic if mario could be mario why can't sonic be sonic fuck the haters

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#9 Posted by foxmulder (1879 posts) -

I have a friend who is the stereotypical Sonic fan who buys every shitty game after another.  And she still loves them all... hell she bought a Sonic comic the other day just because she 'felt' she needed it.

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#10 Posted by rcath (553 posts) -

head esplode!

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#11 Posted by MideonNViscera (2269 posts) -

I have yet to see a game release in episodes where one episode didn't cost more than I'd pay for the whole game. Sonic 4, Penny Arcade . . . you suck.

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#12 Posted by SpunkyHePanda (2049 posts) -

Do I sense a bit of judgement over them making more because it sold well? I don't know if that's fair.

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#13 Posted by WaltJay (20 posts) -

"  Even though the critical response to Sonic's downloadable entry, Sega's moving forward." 
 
Seems like you left out a couple words, Patrick. 
 
Even though what?  "...entry was tepid, " maybe?

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#14 Posted by Toxin066 (3470 posts) -

Finish Sonic 4, throw that mess in with Generations.

I really don't think this is a case of the vocal minority. I think everyone is tired of Sonic.

It was a commercial success because it probably costs so little to make, so just about any sales are profit. That's my unresearched, pulled-out-my-ass opinion.

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#15 Posted by JoeRosa (103 posts) -

Remake Sonic 3 with knuckles or give us something similar. Stop trying to add nonsense to the pot.

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#16 Posted by Scotto (1306 posts) -

I don't need a 100% authentic throwback Sonic game. This is what pisses me off about Sega - they don't get that it's possible to evolve a franchise properly. They either try (and fail) to directly recreate and siphon off some of the magic of the old Sonic games, or they piss all over the franchise's roots with absolutely fucking terrible 3D action platformers, and scads of forgettable and irritating peripheral characters.

- Scott

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#17 Posted by Phoenix87 (703 posts) -

just get me some god damn Chemical Plant and anything will be AOK.

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#18 Posted by Scotto (1306 posts) -

@SpunkyHePanda said:

Do I sense a bit of judgement over them making more because it sold well? I don't know if that's fair.

I was confused by that too. Little too snark for snarks sake, for my liking.

- Scott

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#19 Posted by This_Dude (305 posts) -

Sonic doesn't suck,  the people making the games just can't get it right.

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#20 Posted by WilliamHenry (1285 posts) -

If they fixed the physics and cleaned up the animation, it could be great. I still don't know how they messed those up so bad the last time. Is there no one at Sega that played the originals?

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#21 Posted by PerfidiousSinn (909 posts) -

If the next episode has a comparable amount of content, they really need to drop the price to $10.

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#22 Posted by Yzzerdd (528 posts) -

What a damn shame!

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#23 Posted by Xpgamer7 (2477 posts) -

@This_Dude said:

Sonic doesn't suck, the people making the games just can't get it right.
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#24 Edited by UlquioKani (1372 posts) -

It's not that we don't like sonic in 3d, its just that they are not good at doing sonic in 3d and sega doesn't seem to understand this. If they can make a good 3d sonic game, then I'll be happy. 

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#25 Posted by Video_Game_King (36564 posts) -

Wait, there are gonna be more episodes? I wanted this to become the console equivalent of Half-Life 2.

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#26 Edited by sopranosfan (1965 posts) -
@WaltJay said:

"  Even though the critical response to Sonic's downloadable entry, Sega's moving forward."  Seems like you left out a couple words, Patrick.  Even though what?  "...entry was tepid, " maybe?

Dammit, I must know what the critical response was!!  I guess we could play Mad Libs with it, I guess an adjective goes there so I am going with erect, "even though the response to Sonic's downloadable entry was erect, Sega's moving forward."
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#27 Posted by Protonguy (309 posts) -

There Will Be More Sonic 4 Episodes, Sega Knows There Were Problems

Seems they didn't pick up on the fact that the actual problem is they're making more Sonic games.

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#28 Posted by csl316 (13928 posts) -

I enjoyed episode 1. Probably since I was used to the different physics due to the DS games.

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#29 Posted by Kyle (2376 posts) -

Hey, I'll admit it, I played and fully enjoyed Sonic 4 simply for the fact that it was the first sonic game in like a decade to not completely suck... Then Sonic Colors came out the month after that and was way better, so now I don't really care about 4 at all. I DO care about Generations, though, 'cause it basically looks like the follow up to Colors.

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#30 Posted by Mojokilla (48 posts) -

For the love of god... Fix the floaty controls. I found episode one to be unplayable. Or at least unejoyable. I want my old, fat sonic back.

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#31 Posted by recroulette (5447 posts) -

After playing Episode 4, I just figured that I don't give a shit about Sonic anymore.

I don't really see anything bringing me back.

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#32 Posted by dhenniga (33 posts) -

If Sega is still making Sonic games and they're still earning solid bank from the franchise then I say "more power to them".  It tough enough to make a buck in the games industry these days and Sonic is pretty much all Sega have going for them.  I personally don't like Sonic games but that's probably because I'm 36 and these games aren't marketed at my age group. I used to like them when I was a kid though. :)

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#33 Posted by DirtyData (83 posts) -

Good on them.

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#34 Posted by Godwind (2925 posts) -
@patrickklepek
 
Sonic fans aren't picky.  They buy every shitty game there is.  Lost fans have moved onto better things.
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#35 Posted by clstirens (854 posts) -
@Xpgamer7 said:

@This_Dude said:

Sonic doesn't suck, the people making the games just can't get it right.
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#36 Posted by Tebbit (4589 posts) -

I don't think Sonic fans exist any more. I loved what Sonic was in the 90s, not the monstrosity he became further down the track.

The more accurate term would be a Sonic Observer. As soon as they release a good game, I'll hop right back in.

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#37 Edited by Sauson (583 posts) -

The fact that the first episode was commercially successful saddens me.  Can we please just let Sonic die in peace?  Must we continue beating a dead horse?
 
inb4 "More like beating a dead hedgehog hur hur hur"

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#38 Posted by Toms115 (2329 posts) -
@TadThuggish said:

"It's okay guys, this one will surely be true to the original games!"

Again, and again, and again, and again...

it's not that they're not true to the originals, it's just that the people who made the originals aren't making these. plain and simple, yo.
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#39 Posted by RE_Player1 (8010 posts) -
I really enjoyed Sonic 4, got it on sale one week. Do I want more? Fuck no.
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#40 Posted by somethingdumb (120 posts) -

I liked it. I'd play a new one.

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#41 Posted by crushed (906 posts) -

@TadThuggish said:

"It's okay guys, this one will surely be true to the original games!"

Again, and again, and again, and again...

IIRC, the actual Japanese development team had no idea that the US community people were trying to promise Genesis Sonic-like physics and gameplay.

And for people saying they'll jump back in when they release a good game, try Sonic Colors. It's not classic Sonic, but it takes the stuff from modern Sonic and puts it into a very fun platformer without being broken or bogged down with dumb story.

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#42 Posted by TadThuggish (990 posts) -

@Crushed said:

@TadThuggish said:

"It's okay guys, this one will surely be true to the original games!"

Again, and again, and again, and again...

IIRC, the actual Japanese development team had no idea that the US community people were trying to promise Genesis Sonic-like physics and gameplay.

And for people saying they'll jump back in when they release a good game, try Sonic Colors. It's not classic Sonic, but it takes the stuff from modern Sonic and puts it into a very fun platformer without being broken or bogged down with dumb story.

I distinctly remember a time before Sonic said "epic".

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#43 Edited by crushed (906 posts) -

@TadThuggish said:

I distinctly remember a time before Sonic said "epic".

That was a dumb line, but it's not like that's the entire game. For God's sake, it's a 3D Sonic game where you spend 80% of the time in 2D, Robotnik in a big robot is the final boss instead of some eldritch abomination from space, and Super Sonic is actually playable in the regular stages.

Also, the game's requisite gimmick is something that actually makes sense instead of forcing you to do some dumb shit like be Big the Cat or play as a Werehog: it's just a series of neat powerups that let you get score bonuses or access alternate paths while you still go fast.

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#44 Posted by Redbullet685 (6453 posts) -

Took long enough.

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#45 Posted by omfgzell (40 posts) -

I really really hope this goes well. Sonic 4 was painful because it was so fucking close...

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#46 Posted by godzilla_sushi (1347 posts) -

@omfgzell said:

I really really hope this goes well. Sonic 4 was painful because it was so fucking close...

I couldn't have said it better myself!

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#47 Posted by virtorio (273 posts) -

I'll play a Sonic 4:2. Didn't really like the way Sonic moved in Sonic 4, hope they improve that.

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#48 Posted by JasonR86 (10178 posts) -

The quality of the game wasn't an issue.  It was the lack of momentum to Sonic's movements.  He felt so...stiff.  He had no forward momentum like he did in the older, and even more current, games.  It felt weird to play.

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#49 Edited by sickVisionz (1307 posts) -

Not too amped for Sonic 4.2 outside of seeing what they do with Sonic 2.  4.1 seemed like Sonic 1: Remix so I've assumed 4.2 = Sonic 2 and 4.3 = Sonic 3.  3 Is my favorite so 4.3 is the one I'm really excited for, but I will be interested in seeing what they do with the Sonic 2 bonus stage in 4.2 .  It feels like that bonus stage kinda became the premise for post Dreamcast sonic games. 
 
They need to bring back Streets of Rage though.

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#50 Posted by ArbitraryWater (14689 posts) -

I've gotten to the point now where I don't even know if the old "good" sonic games can even be called such anymore, though that might just be my cynicism at its peak. Yeah, they were fast without being lame and floaty like this game, but are you really going to compare them with the likes of Super Mario Bros 3 and Super Mario World?

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