First off, here's the link  
http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/sony-considers-charging-for-used-games-that-play-online/     
 
Now, why are publishers and developers really thinking that used and rental games are such a big problem? They already got our money once and now they want more. This just baffles me. There's no end to giving these people our money. Someone please tell me that there's hope out there.

Hope?  For a company wanting to protect their investment? 
 
I have no problem with this tactic, I buy just about everything new.  Gaming is a hobby of luxury, this sense of entitlement from people that buy used, or flat out pirate titles, is hilarious.  I also have no problem with the used game trade.  It is a consumers right to resell something they purchases, just as it is the business's right to put in measures to protect their product, and maximize their profits.

Damn. A lot of games aren't worth their $60 price tag, that's why I buy used games and rent.

It makes perfect sense from a business stand point.

" Hope?  For a company wanting to protect their investment?  I have no problem with this tactic, I buy just about everything new.  Gaming is a hobby of luxury, this sense of entitlement from people that buy used, or flat out pirate titles, is hilarious.  I also have no problem with the used game trade.  It is a consumers right to resell something they purchases, just as it is the business's right to put in measures to protect their product, and maximize their profits. "

 Gaming is a hobby of luxury, this sense of entitlement from people that buy used.    

" Damn. A lot of games aren't worth their $60 price tag, that's why I buy used games and rent. "

" @Axxol said:

" Damn. A lot of games aren't worth their $60 price tag, that's why I buy used games and rent. "

Since you do not want to pay full price for a title, the publishers do not think you should have full access.    

" @DrDarkStryfe said:

" @Axxol said:

" Damn. A lot of games aren't worth their $60 price tag, that's why I buy used games and rent. "

Since you do not want to pay full price for a title, the publishers do not think you should have full access.    

  You've been promoted to Captain Obvious.  "

Eh. I think publishers got a point.
 
They don't see any money from used games.
 
Then they need to support those players online for free? 
 

I'm still wondering how the publishers are entitled to used games. They already made their money off of the game.

Shit! I hadn't even thought about this shit going against rentals. FUCK!!!! And I just started Gamefly too.

" @Axxol said:

" @DrDarkStryfe said:

" @Axxol said:

" Damn. A lot of games aren't worth their $60 price tag, that's why I buy used games and rent. "

Since you do not want to pay full price for a title, the publishers do not think you should have full access.    

  You've been promoted to Captain Obvious.  "

you're right, it is obvious.. so where's the conflict or misunderstanding coming from here? either pay the full price of the game or tough shit basically. "

" @animateria: I love Penny-Arcade, but that comic is all wrong. Well except for the retarded WWE fan. You're still a GameStop customer even if you buy the game new from their store. The publisher lost their customer when he sold the game. They gained a customer when the next person bought it. No gain and no lose. Everyones happy. "

I think it's a great thing, doesn't affect me as I always buy games new (unless I can't find them new) to support the game. 

" @animateria: I love Penny-Arcade, but that comic is all wrong. Well except for the retarded WWE fan. You're still a GameStop customer even if you buy the game new from their store. The publisher lost their customer when he sold the game. They gained a customer when the next person bought it. No gain and no lose. Everyones happy. "

" @ch13696:  You have to understand that these games costs millions to make. For example, World of Warcraft alone costs Blizzard up to 90 million dollars a year. So when they see that Gamestop is making Billions off the used game market they feel that its because they allow it. So, they take away anyone's ability to make a profit off the used sale to allow more first sales.  The end result is that the publisher, and by proxy the developer, make more money to use to make more games, its not like they spend it on prostitutes and heroin. "

" @ch13696 said:

" @animateria: I love Penny-Arcade, but that comic is all wrong. Well except for the retarded WWE fan. You're still a GameStop customer even if you buy the game new from their store. The publisher lost their customer when he sold the game. They gained a customer when the next person bought it. No gain and no lose. Everyones happy. "

Sure with a new game, you're both GS and the publishers customer.  However when it comes to used games the game becomes pure profit for GS only. And while you can argue that the publisher got all their share with the first customer, that prevents the sale of a new copy of the game for the publisher. And with used copies they are now supporting players that are not their customers. I'm pretty sure publishers tried to gain some cash from GS for used game sales but it hasn't worked out at all.  So this is their best option aside from DLC. "

" @animateria said:

" @ch13696 said:

" @animateria: I love Penny-Arcade, but that comic is all wrong. Well except for the retarded WWE fan. You're still a GameStop customer even if you buy the game new from their store. The publisher lost their customer when he sold the game. They gained a customer when the next person bought it. No gain and no lose. Everyones happy. "

Sure with a new game, you're both GS and the publishers customer.  However when it comes to used games the game becomes pure profit for GS only. And while you can argue that the publisher got all their share with the first customer, that prevents the sale of a new copy of the game for the publisher. And with used copies they are now supporting players that are not their customers. I'm pretty sure publishers tried to gain some cash from GS for used game sales but it hasn't worked out at all.  So this is their best option aside from DLC. "

Okay, let me put it this way. I sell the game to my friend. What then? All it is is switching customers. They're not losing a customer, but their not gaining a customer either.  "

" @Persecution89 said:

" @Axxol said:

" @DrDarkStryfe said:

" @Axxol said:

" Damn. A lot of games aren't worth their $60 price tag, that's why I buy used games and rent. "

Since you do not want to pay full price for a title, the publishers do not think you should have full access.    

  You've been promoted to Captain Obvious.  "

you're right, it is obvious.. so where's the conflict or misunderstanding coming from here? either pay the full price of the game or tough shit basically. "

I'm not misunderstanding anything. If this becomes uniform for all companies, it's not the end of the world. You act as if I'm whining about it. "

" @ch13696 said:

" @animateria said:

" @ch13696 said:

" @animateria: I love Penny-Arcade, but that comic is all wrong. Well except for the retarded WWE fan. You're still a GameStop customer even if you buy the game new from their store. The publisher lost their customer when he sold the game. They gained a customer when the next person bought it. No gain and no lose. Everyones happy. "

Sure with a new game, you're both GS and the publishers customer.  However when it comes to used games the game becomes pure profit for GS only. And while you can argue that the publisher got all their share with the first customer, that prevents the sale of a new copy of the game for the publisher. And with used copies they are now supporting players that are not their customers. I'm pretty sure publishers tried to gain some cash from GS for used game sales but it hasn't worked out at all.  So this is their best option aside from DLC. "

Okay, let me put it this way. I sell the game to my friend. What then? All it is is switching customers. They're not losing a customer, but their not gaining a customer either.  "

They actually supported two customers for the price of one in that scenario.  Except the second guy didn't give money to the publishers, he gave money to you.   You gain profit by selling the game to a friend, the publisher gains nothing.   Now let's multiply that by GameStop's used game sales. Publishers support around 2-10 customers for 1 copy of the game. And they don't see a penny out of that. "

No, they spend it on the CEO's. Well, I don't know where all that money goes to. Anyways, World of Warcraft is a bad example because it's a PC game and it's an MMO. No used games there. Let's use Call of Duty as an example. It cost Activision $50 million to have Infinity Ward make MW2. So far they sold 20 million copies as of June. So far that's $1.2 billion. Now I know for a fact not all of that will go to the next Modern Warfare game. Maybe $60 million this time. So the rest of that money, we don't know where it goes to. Maybe it is the CEO's, maybe royalties, maybe charity (I wish). Anyways, my point is all the money doesn't go to development. "