Looks pretty standard fair. I think it's time for MMOs to have a paradigm shift away from the raiding and dungeon grinding endgames. Or at least  a shift away from how they're played.  I still can't wait to play this game.  If it sucks and I get bored? The Secret World comes out in April. :D

The Secret World actually seems pretty cool. Its probably going to have fairly standard combat as well though.

Thanks for this, being as raid is my main reason for playing an MMO, I appreciate you sharing :)

@blueduck said:

IMO it looks awful and I can't even see anything really star warsy (except for light sabers!) about it. The combat seems slow and boring and if this is what the game turns into when you reach max level I'll have to count myself out. I'm sure some people will like it so to each his own.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPsuhyN9fTU&feature=player_embedded#at=14 ( here is the link if you can't see the video)

dunno bout you but that is basically how MMO combat works due to latency issues. I don't think GW2's combat will be the revolutionary thing everybody is making out to be.

Also, what they shown is pretty much how KOTOR played like. Also I am hype for TOR so I IZ BIASED!

I might get this a year later. Looking at my finances I will not be able to afford a new computer until at least June 2012. Looks like a standard MMO raid but that's good.

This reminds me why I don't like mmorpgs ... the combat looks always dull and stiff. I get behind the looting, the levelling etc but looking at the actual combat, mmorpgs always break apart for me.

The Secret World actually seems pretty cool. Its probably going to have fairly standard combat as well though.

It looks quite bland. The environments, the animations, the gameplay. Without the StarWars license, I don't think anyone would even bat an eye at this.

It looks quite bland. The environments, the animations, the gameplay. Without the StarWars license, I don't think anyone would even bat an eye at this.

@PrimeSynergy: Any WoW dungeon/raid would put TOR to shame, I don't think they are even directly comparable.

Trying to release a game with a raid that looks as absolutely atrocious as this, when the soon seven year old king of the throne already widely surpass it, is nothing short of retarded.

Is this an actual raid dungeon and this was just the entrance or was it just a boss encounter w/ mini bosses?

How many hours do you think it will take for some individual to hit the level cap?  I remember when people hit in under a day in WOW.  They had a guild working around them doing all the killing.  This might take longer because of all the dialogue.   I don't think EA needs to get the end game 100% on release since it will take a while for most people to get there, but after as long as the game has been in production, it should be functioning at least.

Watching any type of MMO raid be it WoW or otherwise is always kinda boring to me to tell the truth. Its when I put the headphones on and getting feedback from the game and fellow raiders is when my blood starts flowing. Getting 40 20 or 10 peeps to try to work together can be an ordeal. If anyone else remembers just facing Illidan for the first time just felt quite epic. Im pre-ordered and ready to go. Game looks cool

@PenguinDust said:

How many hours do you think it will take for some individual to hit the level cap? I remember when people hit in under a day in WOW.

wat.

What was the level cap at the time?

@Zithe: People hit the level cap of the expansions in a single day or less, because they had an entire guild supporting them, effectively blowing his XP/hour ratio through the roof. I remember just booting up Wrath of the Lich King for the first time on release day, I believe, after coming home from work, and I saw the realm's first lvl 80 players getting announced.

Getting from level 1 to 60 in vanilla wow wasn't anything like that though.

I am pretty excited for The Old Republic, but that emotion isn't provoked by the fairly standard-looking combat. It is the story missions and unique class specializations that really have me itching to get my hands on this game as soon as I possibly can. All of the beta testers seem pretty thoroughly excited about what they have played, with a few little criticisms here and there mostly related to the user interface. It gives me high hopes that The Old Republic won't be the dismal failure that its development time might suggest.

@Buckfitches: I was under the impression he meant going from level 1 to the cap.

@Buckfitches: I was under the impression he meant going from level 1 to the cap.

This was pretty underwhelming. Looked really bland and boring. I hope this game ends up being good though.

Im starting to warm up to this game, although I still don't think I'm going to play it.

Looks good to me, I'm really not trying to be lead blind because I love Bioware and SW so much. It looks and plays great.

This continues to absolutely baffle me with it's unflinching mediocrity.