Ok... so I finished the SC2 campaign, mostly everything done on brutal...
Can we all agree that the ending of the story sucked?
"Walks into cave, picks up chick, shoots tychus in the face, walks out, lives happily ever after derka derka"
I enjoyed the game, but it seems like that ending was abrupt and stupid.
StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty
Game » consists of 10 releases. Released Jul 27, 2010
The first chapter in the StarCraft II trilogy focuses on the struggles of the Terran race, as seen through the eyes of Commander Jim Raynor, leader of the rebel group Raynor's Raiders.
Spoilers- Don't come here if you haven't finished the campaign.
For me it's more like "the story so far" with the Zerg and 'Tossers campaign still missing and by then it will be a whole lot better.
So no, I can't agree with you.
Besides not being surprising in the least (Tychus' betrayal was "foreshadowed" to the point where he might as well have been yelling "I'm going to betray you" the entire game), I thought it turned out just fine. It was a much more fitting end than I was expecting for something that is supposed to be a third of a story.
" For me it's more like "the story so far" with the Zerg and 'Tossers campaign still missing and by then it will be a whole lot better. So no, I can't agree with you. "This is how I felt too. It was a good way to wrap up that plot while leaving a lot of questions unanswered to be answered later. Also the secret mission brought a lot of story to the table too.
" @ZeForgotten said:I thought I was crazy for thinking that way, glad someone agrees." For me it's more like "the story so far" with the Zerg and 'Tossers campaign still missing and by then it will be a whole lot better. So no, I can't agree with you. "This is how I felt too. It was a good way to wrap up that plot while leaving a lot of questions unanswered to be answered later. Also the secret mission brought a lot of story to the table too. "
I also agree with the secret mission brining a lot of story into the mix
It was more of a , " were gonna leave it like this because we want you to think of the possibilities about why all these things have happened before we release the next campaign story" Which sorta did make me think about how this Xel'Naga artifact actually turned kerrigan back to a human and how it will play out in the Zerg Campaign. Then it made me think about the inevitable encounter with the Xel'Naga in the future, or are the hybrids actually the xel'naga and they just evolved into the zerg and protoss at some point in the past.
" @Slax said:No, not crazy at all. It had to fulfill the requirements for any 1st part of a trilogy. Like character introduction, the story of the universe so far etc. If it went to far into the story there wouldn't be anything compelling in the next two chapters." @ZeForgotten said:I thought I was crazy for thinking that way, glad someone agrees. I also agree with the secret mission bringing a lot of story into the mix "" For me it's more like "the story so far" with the Zerg and 'Tossers campaign still missing and by then it will be a whole lot better. So no, I can't agree with you. "This is how I felt too. It was a good way to wrap up that plot while leaving a lot of questions unanswered to be answered later. Also the secret mission brought a lot of story to the table too. "
You really think that's what's gonna happen?" Ok... so I finished the SC2 campaign, mostly everything done on brutal... Can we all agree that the ending of the story sucked? "Walks into cave, picks up chick, shoots tychus in the face, walks out, lives happily ever after derka derka"
Really?
" @ZeForgotten said:Again I can only agree." @Slax said:No, not crazy at all. It had to fulfill the requirements for any 1st part of a trilogy. Like character introduction, the story of the universe so far etc. If it went to far into the story there wouldn't be anything compelling in the next two chapters. "" @ZeForgotten said:I thought I was crazy for thinking that way, glad someone agrees. I also agree with the secret mission bringing a lot of story into the mix "" For me it's more like "the story so far" with the Zerg and 'Tossers campaign still missing and by then it will be a whole lot better. So no, I can't agree with you. "This is how I felt too. It was a good way to wrap up that plot while leaving a lot of questions unanswered to be answered later. Also the secret mission brought a lot of story to the table too. "
There have been games where there wasn't really anything left for the next in the series.
Games where the first one got so far into the story you freaking knew how it would end and who would betray who and you could kinda guess what was gonna happen to certain characters in those games.
I'm actually glad that StarCraft 2 has left me wanting more.
Obviously I would have wished for them to make it like the original StarCraft where all campaigns came in the same game but that's more me being cheap :P
I'm more worried about how she's gonna get rid of those head tendrills... Also, they're far from happily ever after at the end, the only thing that kind of wrapped up was Kerrigan turning into a human, but I'll wager she'll either be still crazy and homicidal, or racked with guilt over killing billions of humans and protoss while she was the Queen of Blades. The ending only seemed abrupt because it was supposed to be a cliffhanger.
I thought it was pretty good, makes you think about what happens next.
I also felt sorry for Tychus. He was my favorite character even though I knew that he was going to betray Jimmy right from the start.
" It was more of a , " were gonna leave it like this because we want you to think of the possibilities about why all these things have happened before we release the next campaign story" Which sorta did make me think about how this Xel'Naga artifact actually turned kerrigan back to a human and how it will play out in the Zerg Campaign. Then it made me think about the inevitable encounter with the Xel'Naga in the future, or are the hybrids actually the xel'naga and they just evolved into the zerg and protoss at some point in the past. "From my understanding - the hybrids are, and aren't, the xel'naga. The xel'naga created the protoss and the zerg with the intent that some day down the line, after the xel'naga have died, that they (the protoss and the zerg, which are the two 'pure' parts of the xel'naga) would naturally find a way that they would start to merge together on their own; and when this happened, the xel'naga would be reborn. However, the keys there are that the xel'naga made both species with the intent that they would 'naturally' merge together as a species at some point while the hybrids are forced genetics on the two species and, as a result, are impure monstrosities that aren't what the xel'naga ever intended them to be. So, why in the most basic sense the hybrids are probably a 'type' of xel'naga, they're not actually xel'naga. If any of that made any sense at all.
As for the end of the game - I actually thought the end of the game was actually pretty decent. I mean, it left a good number of questions - for example, is Kerrigan actually 'human' again? Is her link with the zerg severed or can she still control them? Are the remaining zerg going to be swept up by the hybrids or are they kind of 'on their own' now? I also didn't take as big of an issue with Tychus' betrayal. While yes it was obvious that he was probably going to betray you at some point, in my opinion, he didn't so much betray Jimmy as he chose to cash in on Jimmy's favor. Tychus never came off to me as a man that would be happy dying because some suit in some control room somewhere flipped some switch and terminated him; he came off as a guy that would want to die in battle - so that's what he did. If Tychus had truly betrayed you and truly wanted to kill Kerrigan, he would have. He had more than a clear shot to take her out before Jimmy even would have had time to respond; and even after Jimmy knew what Tychus was planning, Tychus could have set sights on Jimmy first, popped him, and then popped Kerrigan but he didn't. So, it's my belief that Tychus just called in his favor from Jimmy to die on a battlefield at the hands of a friend rather than dying by the push of a button at the hands of an enemy. Maybe I'm wrong though.
How the hell did you beat that last mission on brutal? I tried to beat on hard for several hours before giving up and beating it on normal." Ok... so I finished the SC2 campaign, mostly everything done on brutal... Can we all agree that the ending of the story sucked? "Walks into cave, picks up chick, shoots tychus in the face, walks out, lives happily ever after derka derka" I enjoyed the game, but it seems like that ending was abrupt and stupid. "
But... Duran quite possibly was in the game. I mean, Dr. Narud was wanting people to collect these artifacts for him, and Kerrigan "knew who he was" and "what his plans for the artifacts were" - which he brushed off as quickly and generically as possible. And as soon as we saved him he vanished as quickly as he could. Remember - Duran has had many faces and many names." Maybe I'm dum, but I didn't see the tychus thing coming, or the artifacts working. So I was happily surprised. But the lack of Samir Duran made me angry. "
" Ok... so I finished the SC2 campaign, mostly everything done on brutal... Can we all agree that the ending of the story sucked? "Walks into cave, picks up chick, shoots tychus in the face, walks out, lives happily ever after derka derka" I enjoyed the game, but it seems like that ending was abrupt and stupid. "I thought the ending had an incredibly powerful moment, when Tychus placed his laser sight on Kerrigan and just waited. If he wanted to he could have shot her before anyone had a chance to react, but he wanted to give Raynor the chance to make a choice, a chance that Mengsk had robbed Tychus of. Despite his anger, despite his greed, despite his utter lack of nobility and soldier's sense of self-preservation, in the end his sense of loyalty and friendship won out. He gave his life for his friend Jimmy the only way he knew how.
But... Duran quite possibly was in the game. I mean, Dr. Narud was wanting people to collect these artifacts for him, and Kerrigan "knew who he was" and "what his plans for the artifacts were" - which he brushed off as quickly and generically as possible. And as soon as we saved him he vanished as quickly as he could. Remember - Duran has had many faces and many names. "OMG good catch, lol "Narud" *mind blown*
Are you suggesting that we may have a metal gear solid 1 liquid style reveal in the next game?" @Liam_mk said:
But... Duran quite possibly was in the game. I mean, Dr. Narud was wanting people to collect these artifacts for him, and Kerrigan "knew who he was" and "what his plans for the artifacts were" - which he brushed off as quickly and generically as possible. And as soon as we saved him he vanished as quickly as he could. Remember - Duran has had many faces and many names. "" Maybe I'm dum, but I didn't see the tychus thing coming, or the artifacts working. So I was happily surprised. But the lack of Samir Duran made me angry. "
Already spouted this enough on these forums, but if you ask me the entire story sucked. There was so little of any relevance going on. I've yet to see anyone making a single good argument explaining what was good about the story.
@StarvingGamer said:
If this was the case, why did he shoot ? Why didn't he just sacrifice himself instead ?" @DG991 said:
I thought the ending had an incredibly powerful moment, when Tychus placed his laser sight on Kerrigan and just waited. If he wanted to he could have shot her before anyone had a chance to react, but he wanted to give Raynor the chance to make a choice, a chance that Mengsk had robbed Tychus of. Despite his anger, despite his greed, despite his utter lack of nobility and soldier's sense of self-preservation, in the end his sense of loyalty and friendship won out. He gave his life for his friend Jimmy the only way he knew how. "
" Already spouted this enough on these forums, but if you ask me the entire story sucked. There was so little of any relevance going on. I've yet to see anyone making a single good argument explaining what was good about the story.Probably because then he wouldn't have gotten killed, they'd just be squaring off barrel to barrel. It had to be quick and instinctive.
@StarvingGamer said:If this was the case, why did he shoot ? Why didn't he just sacrifice himself instead ? "" @DG991 said:
I thought the ending had an incredibly powerful moment, when Tychus placed his laser sight on Kerrigan and just waited. If he wanted to he could have shot her before anyone had a chance to react, but he wanted to give Raynor the chance to make a choice, a chance that Mengsk had robbed Tychus of. Despite his anger, despite his greed, despite his utter lack of nobility and soldier's sense of self-preservation, in the end his sense of loyalty and friendship won out. He gave his life for his friend Jimmy the only way he knew how. "
Blizzard said the Zerg campaign was focused on expanding Kerrigan's personal power. The ending of WoL gives them the perfect setup to do so. It's probably going to be similar to the Armoury upgrades for Terrans, but instead it'll be upgrades on Kerrigan's person that'll make her able to use different powers and use different units.
Personally I thought the ending was okay, considering what they want to do with Kerrigan's character and redeem her. The In Utter Darkness mission already kinda showed what they want to do: The Terrans, Protoss and Kerrigan's Zerg unite to fight the Xelnaga and their Hybrids.
I also missed the Dr.Narud = Duran thing. But it makes sense he was involved. Personally I can't make sense of what Mengsk Junior's angle is in all this. He seems like a nice guy who wants to prove "he is a worthy successor to his father", but he exudes douche. Is that seriously his only motivation? I suspect it's him working with Duran and he's the major bad guy in all this. He's worked with Dr.Narud after all and we've got no proof of Mensgk doing the same. Mengsk even banned the trade in alien artifacts. He may be a tyrant and an asshole, but I can't see him working with any kind of alien or alien technology.
Ofcourse, if that's the case, it would make sense for him to take Kerrigan out of the picture. Remember that even though Raynor and Junior are working together up to the last cinematic, there's no saying he will keep doing so now that Kerrigan is semi-human again. He mentioned his motivation was to redeem the greatest war criminal(Kerrigan) in history by making her human again, to prove he's a good successor, but I suspect differently.
I think the Zerg campaign will begin immediatly after the end of the Terran campaign. Remember that the Dominion military still outnumber Raynor's Raider by a good amount on Char and Junior will probably capture Kerrigan to study her or to give her to Duran or something. So the Zerg campaign will begin with Kerrigan breaking out of the clutches of the Dominion military and regaining her powers over the Swarm, except this time she has a conscience and wishes to redeem herself for her crimes.
I'm just speculating.
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