i hate drm 
so good

not as happy as you might think 
 
 
people go freaking mad over there 
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=128014

As soon as they let me play with people outside the uk - then i'll talk to blizzard bout their stinking Beta. 
 
All i wanna do is play with my friends from GB - who all live in america and canada - and its so damn region restrictive, i cant even add them as blizzard friends -_-. 
 
Back to starcraft 1 i guess :/

Yeah, Blizzard sure likes pleasing their fans by not releasing a SC sequel for 12 years and then splitting it into 3 games. 

A lot of people aren't too happy, mainly due to the fact that Bnet 2.0 is in reality a downgrade to WC3's Bnet. I've yet to see all that many discontent with the game itself, but a lot of people on forums don't seem to pleased with Battle Net 2.0 at all.

"The answer to fight piracy is in offering so much to a game's legal and illegal owners that they'll want to buy it. Enter Battle.net's friends and achievement features. "
 
Why can't all companies be like Blizzard?

" @OmegaPirate said:

" As soon as they let me play with people outside the uk - then i'll talk to blizzard bout their stinking Beta.  All i wanna do is play with my friends from GB - who all live in america and canada - and its so damn region restrictive, i cant even add them as blizzard friends -_-.  Back to starcraft 1 i guess :/ "

so you and your NA friends can watch the lag popup screens every 2 seconds? "

" @Fragstoff said:

" @OmegaPirate said:

" As soon as they let me play with people outside the uk - then i'll talk to blizzard bout their stinking Beta.  All i wanna do is play with my friends from GB - who all live in america and canada - and its so damn region restrictive, i cant even add them as blizzard friends -_-.  Back to starcraft 1 i guess :/ "

so you and your NA friends can watch the lag popup screens every 2 seconds? "

A load of shit. Latency is higher, but still perfectly playable for anyone with a internet connection from this millennium.  "

I was hoping I finally finish Read Dead and Mario Galaxy 2 next week because the beta is ending but NOOOOOO.
 
Thanks Blizzard.
 
In the end, the game itself is awesome but bnet sucks.

I buy tons of PC games and the DRM in some of these games is just  ridiculous, Ubisofts newest DRM scheme being the most recent example. Ubisoft have kinda shot themself in the foot on the whole DRM thing seeing as some of the "Piracy" groups are doing it purely for the challenge, basically they're just fueling the fire by making their DRM more intrusive and "harder" to beat. (not to mention the loss of revenue from PC gamers being fed'up by DRM)
 
I'm glad to hear that Blizzard is taking the high road and not using valuable time and money on self defeating DRM schemes. If they had made some crazy DRM for SCII I might have taken my money elsewhere, despite having been waiting for this game for more then 10 years.

I thought they already said it was going to be DRM? I mean everything is tied into the battle.net even the single player.

I don't really care about the people crying on TL, 99% of the time Blizzard knows what their customers want better than we do.  They have their success to use as proof of that.

Gotta side with TL on this one, chat rooms and cross realm play were just 2 parts of  what made SC so amazing but without them SC2 is going to suffer big time in the long run. I know I won't spend nearly as much time as I did with SC:BW on Sc2 all because of the lack of chat rooms. It was always great to sit in a clan channel talk to friends about what ever and then just set up a game and play a few rounds of something. SC2 just lost something very important. 
 
Of course 80% of the people on this site are the type to look at SC2 and go "well shit thats a RTS way too complicated for me" and just play the campaign and a little multiplayer until they give up and move on to the next EZ mode game that caters to the casuals. SC2 exists ONLY because of the "pros" that still play the first game (and are now playing the beta like mad men) these changes are alienated the only people who gave a damn about SC all this damn time. Of course having said all this SC2 will still sells bajillions of copies, doesn't make Blizzard right.

Friends and achievements almost makes me more likely to pirate the game.  
 
And who would steal Starcraft 2 when you could just pirate it?  What a silly suggestion.

My opinion of Blizzard had gone down after the whole subscription thing for an auction app to use outside of WoW. But after reading this, I'm willing to look past that because they're doing something that could usher in a big change in how DRM is handled. 
 
And they are absolutely right. The only way to counter piracy, is to basically make people an offer they can't refuse. Let's just hope that this gesture of good faith won't go unnoticed by gamers.

My opinion of Blizzard had gone down after the whole subscription thing for an auction app to use outside of WoW. But after reading this, I'm willing to look past that because they're doing something that could usher in a big change in how DRM is handled. 
 
And they are absolutely right. The only way to counter piracy, is to basically make people an offer they can't refuse. Let's just hope that this gesture of good faith won't go unnoticed by gamers.

" As soon as they let me play with people outside the uk - then i'll talk to blizzard bout their stinking Beta.  All i wanna do is play with my friends from GB - who all live in america and canada - and its so damn region restrictive, i cant even add them as blizzard friends -_-.  Back to starcraft 1 i guess :/ "

I lol'd after the second sentence.

In today's world of DRM, I think Blizzard took a fair approach to their solution.  I wouldn't hesitate one bit to purchase any PC game with this DRM approach included. 
 
It'd be nice if I didn't have to get my picture taken from the ATM machine every time I make a visit or if I didn't have to be recorded when I walk inside a grocery story... but few ruin it all for the rest of us.  Given the realities of the PC environment I dare anyone to argue a valid point against this fair application of DRM.

Blizzard is one of the few developers who I have respect for. More developers need to follow this route. 
 
As for splitting SC2 into three games controversy; why can't people comprehend that the two following games are essentially more or less standalone expansions?

They... they get it. They actually get it.

So, so beautiful to see the market at work. Some studios are suffering because of their inability to cope, while others (Blizzard) are thriving because they have adapted. It truly is a lovely, lovely thing, especially when it benefits me in the end.   

I think I've already said this once today but once more with good feeling: not really interested in games which are stuck, conceptually, in the 90s.

Pirating StarCraft 2 is like pirating Modern Warfare or Little Big Planet.  You're kind of missing the point if you're not taking it online.

" I don't get it.  Blizzard implements always-connected DRM tech for the multiplayer portion of the game, and get's lauded for it?  If this game came out when it was supposed to way back, I don't think any of you would have said it was "fair."  That being said, I don't really have a problem with any of the DRM stuff that has come out recently, I'm just a bit confused as to why the outrage is only directed towards specific companies and others get a pass. "

" @Atomic_Tangerine:  The thing is, recent haves have required constant internet connection for singleplayer, when the connection wouldn't otherwise be used. Connection required for multiplayer is fine because it's multiplayer, so you should be connected anyways. "

This is a very good stance on DRM.  As long as the game truly avoids microtransactions as was earlier claimed, it should set a good example for other game companies.

I hate pirates, ultimately, more than DRM.  I understand DRM, I don't understand piracy.  I don't know how you stop pirates, but I'm willing to suffer any inconvenience to eliminate it.

" Blizzard is one of the few developers who I have respect for. More developers need to follow this route.  As for splitting SC2 into three games controversy; why can't people comprehend that the two following games are essentially more or less standalone expansions? "

" A lot of people aren't too happy, mainly due to the fact that Bnet 2.0 is in reality a downgrade to WC3's Bnet. I've yet to see all that many discontent with the game itself, but a lot of people on forums don't seem to pleased with Battle Net 2.0 at all. "

"Battlenet is a largely superior successor in a lot of aspects, matchmaking, ladders, profile, history, achievements, cross game communication, map sharing and more. 
"

I'm sure whatever they come up with, there will be a 
hack for it.  I'm not a die hard fan so I'll probably wait
for the price drop on this one.  Seems like more of the
same, only a little different.

" I'm sure whatever they come up with, there will be a  hack for it.  I'm not a die hard fan so I'll probably wait for the price drop on this one.  Seems like more of the same, only a little different. "

" I don't get it.  Blizzard implements always-connected DRM tech for the multiplayer portion of the game, and get's lauded for it?  If this game came out when it was supposed to way back, I don't think any of you would have said it was "fair."  That being said, I don't really have a problem with any of the DRM stuff that has come out recently, I'm just a bit confused as to why the outrage is only directed towards specific companies and others get a pass. "

 "But at the end of the day, people steal PC games"

 @Gditz said:

" @Brad Nicholson said:

 "But at the end of the day, people steal PC games"

Even if the level of entry for enabling piracy on consoles is a bit higher, there is still a lot of piracy on all platforms. Its about the person using the platform, not the platform itself.    in short, "People steal games", not just PC games. "

I will buy this game no matter what.

This is a rational approach to anti-piracy, you'd really think videogames would be the media best equipped to evolve with the new ways in which we consume media, glad to see not everyone is taking Ubisoft's hard-line approach.