Ok, so i got SFIV a couple of weeks ago and have been playing it with the regular 360 controller. Being a noob, I keep doing the challenges to perfect the combos, but I can't do it for the life of me. I can do the moves every once in a while but i cant seem to repeat them. I was wondering if this is most likely because the D-Pad on the 360 controller sucks or that its just really really hard to get that stuff down, or maybe a little bit of both.
Also if you have any tips on perfecting combo system, as well as integrating those move combos into actual fights, I would be more than happy to hear it.
Street Fighter IV
Game » consists of 9 releases. Released Jul 18, 2008
After nearly a decade in hiatus, Capcom's signature mainline fighting game series resurfaces with its fourth main installment, combining the traditional 2D gameplay with modern fully-3D graphics.
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Same default answer as the Gouken thread....practice, practice, practice. If you want a fight pad, which is a dramatic step up from the 360 controller, all you gotta do is beat me first to ten.
When I used the 360 controller, I found the analog stick to be a million times better then the d pad. Give it a try.
You should have gotten it on the PC that way you can run these super macro programs that does all these combos for you and a lag switch. Thats how true pros play.
Buy a fightpad or arcade stick if you take fighting games seriously. They're also required for XBLA retro games.
To people who've used both, how do the fightpads compare with the analog stick on the 360 controller? I never even tried the d-pad and went straight for the stick, but I've been thinking of upgrading.
If you want a free one, just play me and beat me 1st to 10. Nothing to lose!
" To people who've used both, how do the fightpads compare with the analog stick on the 360 controller? I never even tried the d-pad and went straight for the stick, but I've been thinking of upgrading. "The d-pad on the fight pad is pretty good; I liked it more than the analog stick. However, the button layout was what sold me. It's much better for SF (6 big face buttons instead of 4 small ones).
I use the Dpad and can't get past the 4th challenge for anybody, but I can still do better than average in a straight up fight. That's what I like about the game, some fighting games you'll get destroyed if you don't know the big 8 or 10 hit combos, but with SF it seems like it's more about timing, and reading your opponent.
" My beef with the fight pad is that it has no sticks. I don't want to buy a controller just for one game. "That is a rather stupid complaint. The FightPad is made with one specific goal in mind, and the goal does not include analog sticks. If the standard Xbox 360 controller works for you - then great - but if you're looking at the FightPad and complaining about something that's not supposed to be there, then maybe you're playing the wrong game.
" @wosifat said:With all due respect, my beef is still with the controller, not the game. I still enjoy the game and make do with the stock controller. I don't see why the controller has to sacrifice the analog sticks just for a better D-pad." My beef with the fight pad is that it has no sticks. I don't want to buy a controller just for one game. "That is a rather stupid complaint. The FightPad is made with one specific goal in mind, and the goal does not include analog sticks. If the standard Xbox 360 controller works for you - then great - but if you're looking at the FightPad and complaining about something that's not supposed to be there, then maybe you're playing the wrong game. "
" @Napalm said:Because the Xbox 360 directional pad is shit. The new directional pad allows for tenfold flexibility in move precision and execution that could not otherwise be achieved with the standard console controller directional pad. All you need to do is play with a FightPad once and you'll notice the difference. As I mentioned before, complaining about analog sticks makes absolutely no sense on a controller that's not supposed to have them. If you want that, then buy a FightStick. If you don't want to buy a FightStick then use the standard controller for the analog sticks." @wosifat said:With all due respect, my beef is still with the controller, not the game. I still enjoy the game and make do with the stock controller. I don't see why the controller has to sacrifice the analog sticks just for a better D-pad. "" My beef with the fight pad is that it has no sticks. I don't want to buy a controller just for one game. "That is a rather stupid complaint. The FightPad is made with one specific goal in mind, and the goal does not include analog sticks. If the standard Xbox 360 controller works for you - then great - but if you're looking at the FightPad and complaining about something that's not supposed to be there, then maybe you're playing the wrong game. "
Yes the d-pad is that bad, but practice does also matter. However there is a way to make the d-pad more functional.
If you can find a size 8 torx wrench with the security hole in the center (aka T8H -- for wireless. for wired you just need a small philips head screwdriver), you can take apart your controller and grind/sand down the thick plastic rim around the d-pad, making it much more responsive. This is because the actual d-pad slides around and doesn't have enough room to press all the way down if it has slid too far in that direction. Reducing the thickness of the ring gives it much more room to press down on the contacts inside the controller.
I haven't done it since all T8H I can find are really stubby bit heads for a drill. They're too short to fit in the top holes, so you'd need an L shaped wrench instead. So instead I ordered a Hori EX2 fighstick (and replaced the 4 way gate with an 8-way gate, plus bat top) with the money I saved on the game. I love Steam sales. Too bad I rarely play fighting games, so it almost never gets used. However it is THE way to play SOTN.
Honestly, I find this technique a lot better:" Yes the d-pad is that bad, but practice does also matter. However there is a way to make the d-pad more functional.
If you can find a size 8 torx wrench with the security hole in the center (aka T8H -- for wireless. for wired you just need a small philips head screwdriver), you can take apart your controller and grind/sand down the thick plastic rim around the d-pad, making it much more responsive. This is because the actual d-pad slides around and doesn't have enough room to press all the way down if it has slid too far in that direction. Reducing the thickness of the ring gives it much more room to press down on the contacts inside the controller.
I haven't done it since all T8H I can find are really stubby bit heads for a drill. They're too short to fit in the top holes, so you'd need an L shaped wrench instead. So instead I ordered a Hori EX2 fighstick (and replaced the 4 way gate with an 8-way gate, plus bat top) with the money I saved on the game. I love Steam sales. Too bad I rarely play fighting games, so it almost never gets used. However it is THE way to play SOTN. "
You need the exact size washer or it won't work. Outside diameter needs to be exactly 1/2 inch, & the inner diameter needs to be 3/16 inch, kind of like either a flat 5/16" or 1/2" washer. Try whatever you can find as the thickness is likely to be a more important factor than the diameter.
1.) Disassemble the X-Box 360 controller using the Torx screwdriver. But don't get a screwdriver with detachable ends since th tips are the only part thin enough to fit in the screwholes and they're never long enough to reach all the way down. Get something like a Size 8 or a size 9 torx screwdriver.
2.) Make sure that you open the controller face-down so the buttons don't fall out of the shell.
3.) Once you do that, lift the D-Pad rubber underneath the disc.
4.) Put the washer on the peg. Notice that it doesn't fit all the way around the peg but rather rests on top of it. If a flat washer doesn't work, perhaps you could try bending it a bit to see if that does the trick. You may have to mess with it a little to get it just right; you can't just throw the washer in there and expect perfection.
5.) Put the D-Pad rubber back on top & make sure it's on there tight or something so that the washer doesn't move somewhat.
6.) Reassemble the controller.
7.) Done.
I learned it from a person named Eric Vinyard, who has the article about it:
http://www.chinagreenelvis.com/brainsharts/death-to-the-d-pad.html
Hopefully, that will work.
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