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    Super Street Fighter IV

    Game » consists of 28 releases. Released Feb 26, 2010

    Super Street Fighter IV is a standalone update to its predecessor, adding new characters, modes, and online features.

    No AE for consoles

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    #1  Edited By elyhaym

    Producer says purposely unbalanced arcade fighter not suitable for home consoles.

    Super Street Fighter IV producer Yoshinori Ono says there are no plans for a console release of the game’sArcade Edition, released in December.

    Speaking to Japanese magazine Famitsu - translated by Andriasang - Ono explains that, while last year’s console release of Super SFIV was intended to be as finely balanced as possible, Capcom purposely went in the other direction with Arcade Edition.

    With early reports indicating that returning twins Yun and Yang – last seen in Street Fighter III: Third Strike – are somewhat overpowered, Ono said this was a deliberate tactic as he feels “having such a character helps to build community and competitive spirit.”

    Two further characters, Oni and Evil Ryu – essentially beefed-up versions of existing characters Akuma and Ryu – are in the arcade game’s code but are yet to be officially unlocked, the game’s password system allowing for unlockable content over time.

    Videos of the two briefly appeared after California’s Arcade Infinity – which as we reported earlier this week is set to close its doors this month - somehow obtained the code.

    It had been widely expected that Arcade Edition – which also contains a variety of balance and moveset tweaks – would make its way to consoles by way of a DLC release.

    In the interview, Ono also touches on the upcoming Street Fighter x Tekken collaboration with Namco. He saysStreet Fighter IV gave the fighting game market a new lease of life, and hopes the crossover with Tekken, which remains enormously popular in Japan, will “create a huge wave”

     
    Source:  http://www.next-gen.biz/news/ono-rules-out-ssfiv-arcade-for-consoles 

     
    I sincerely hope the good Mr. Ono is trolling or I'll be really disappointed. Also, is it just me or does deliberate unbalancing of a fighting game to promote competition make absolutely no sense?
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    #2  Edited By TechHits

    It could be a poor, or miss translation. It wouldnt be the first time somthing like that has happened.

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    #3  Edited By VicRattlehead
    Yoshi_OnoChin  Yoshinori Ono   
    They can't play SSFIVAE for console ofcouse. ;) It will be open...someday. ;) RT @HiRisk808: Wait...so there will be SSF4AE for console? =)
       
    Yoshi_OnoChin  Yoshinori Ono  
    I can't say yet now. BUT asap.... ;P RT @Wady172: Are you thinking in makingDLC of SSF4AEto consoles? And if yes,are going to come up soon?  
     
     
    oni is best troll 
     
    also "Unfortunately, Ono did not comment on what everyone really wants: home releases for Yun, Yang, Evil Ryu and Oni, all additional characters for the arcade version. It's widely expected that these characters will be offered as download content for home players" 
     
    from the original article....  
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    #4  Edited By elyhaym

    @VicRattlehead 
     
    Good point. Didn't catch that the first time I read it. 
    I guess I'll keep hoping.

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    #5  Edited By TheGremp

    The editor seems like he's taking Ono's words waaay out of proportion.  He's just saying that AE is intentionally broken, just like almost every other good Capcom fighter.

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    #6  Edited By VicRattlehead
    @Elyhaym: tbh ill ask the man himself
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    #7  Edited By Soap

    If they don't offer them as DLC, they have missed the entire point of making games, Arcades are dead (outside of japan) and if they like money, they need to put out there content in a place were people will give it to them. 

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    #8  Edited By elyhaym

    @VicRattlehead: I bet if I wrote the guy, he'd just send me a link to trollface.jpg

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    #9  Edited By CptPanda29

    They've said that SSF4 is the last disc game for 4, anything else would be dlc, so if it's getting released it has to be downloadable.

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    #10  Edited By VicRattlehead
    Yoshi_OnoChin  Yoshinori Ono 
    Over my dead body!! It all right! ;D RT @VicRattlehead0: is it true no AE edition on console? 
     
     
     
    i love ono   
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    @VicRattlehead said:

    " Yoshi_OnoChin  Yoshinori Ono 


    Over my dead body!! It all right! ;D RT @VicRattlehead0: is it true no AE edition on console? 
       i love ono    "
    Sweet. 
     
    If they didn't have plans to release it, I think I'd drop SSF4 entirely at this point, in favour of MVC3.  
     
    Arcade Edition HAS to drop.
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    #12  Edited By ricetopher

    LOLOLOLOL get Trollno'd.

    Glad I don't give a damn about AE.

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    #13  Edited By elyhaym
    @GetEveryone said:
    " @VicRattlehead said:

    " Yoshi_OnoChin  Yoshinori Ono 


    Over my dead body!! It all right! ;D RT @VicRattlehead0: is it true no AE edition on console? 
       i love ono    "
    Sweet.  If they didn't have plans to release it, I think I'd drop SSF4 entirely at this point, in favour of MVC3.   Arcade Edition HAS to drop. "
     
    Ono sure loves his trolling, but I feel the same way as GE. Not sure I could be bothered to stick with SSF4 if AE doesn't happen.
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    #14  Edited By Jeffsekai

    Because it's going to be DLC, and it won't be called AE.

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    #15  Edited By leroyrockwell
    @Jeffsekai:  Yeah it's going to be DLC plus why would they call it "Arcade Edition"
     
      @VicRattlehead said:

    Unfortunately, Ono did not comment

    THIS PART IS IMPORTANT. THANK YOU VICRATTLEHEAD!

    This was posted today on
     

     I found a plastic sheet! That takes me back.  

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    http://twitter.com/Yoshi_OnoChin/status/40193988178878464


    Ono is a pro troller but also he gives you so many freakin hints.  It's so odd he would post this after the article hits.
    Say it with me Super Street Fighter IV: Champion Edition DLC pack.
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    #16  Edited By Jeffsekai
    @leroyrockwell said:
    " @Jeffsekai:  Yeah it's going to be DLC plus why would they call it "Arcade Edition"
     
      @VicRattlehead said:

    Unfortunately, Ono did not comment

    THIS PART IS IMPORTANT. THANK YOU VICRATTLEHEAD!

    This was posted today on
     

     I found a plastic sheet! That takes me back.  

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    http://twitter.com/Yoshi_OnoChin/status/40193988178878464


    Ono is a pro troller but also he gives you so many freakin hints.  It's so odd he would post this after the article hits.
    Say it with me Super Street Fighter IV: Champion Edition DLC pack. "
    That makes so much god damn sense haha
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    #17  Edited By JJOR64

    Don't forget those achievement pics that leaked out.  Possibly, there could be another update to the game that will come to consoles instead of AE.
     
    Only time will tell.

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    #18  Edited By StarvingGamer

    Ono wants to make you go oh no!

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    #19  Edited By ricetopher

    For what it's worth, the guy who leaked the accurate MvC3 roster well in advance has stated that AE is indeed coming as DLC. No other information was given though.

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    #20  Edited By ArbitraryWater

    If I've learned anything from following Street Fighter update news, it's that Ono is very acutely aware that there are hundreds of people hanging on his every word and enjoys messing with them. Come on, we all know that the Arcade Mode stuff is going to come to consoles eventually. Those leaked achievements were proof enough. What I'm interested in is when and for how much. Anything over $15 is pushing it.

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    #21  Edited By vr00m

    As long as this doesn't separate the community im ok with it.  I'll buy the dlc regardless, but I hope everyone gets a patch with the new dmg settings and vs dlc characters.... Just like the costume packs. You know playing MvC3 makes me appreciate how good it makes the SSFIV online experience look.

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    #22  Edited By WickedCestus

    I remember when I liked fighting games.

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    #23  Edited By ThePhantomnaut

    Why should Arcade Edition come to consoles? Of course it's not coming out.

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    @ThePhantomnaut said:
    " Why should Arcade Edition come to consoles?"
    Because they can charge even more money.
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    #25  Edited By ThePhantomnaut
    @GetEveryone said:
    " @ThePhantomnaut said:
    " Why should Arcade Edition come to consoles?"
    Because they can charge even more money. "
    Yo insert moar quarters to play Yun and Yang on the Xbawks!
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    #26  Edited By coolfurby

    I'd rather have balanced versions of the characters as DLC than the Arcade Edition anyway.

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    #27  Edited By DirrtyNinja
    @GetEveryone said:
    " @ThePhantomnaut said:
    " Why should Arcade Edition come to consoles?"
    Because they can charge even more money. "
    I would happily pay full retail price for AE.
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    @DirrtyNinja: If there are six new characters (though, given we've only heard of 4 at this point, it seems unlikely), as rumoured, then I would be happy to as well. 
     
    If it remains (what amounts to) a purely balance changing patch, though, I'd rather not pay anything at all.
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    #29  Edited By Rhaknar

    there is ZERO chance AE wont come to consoles, in DLC or new game form. Capcom, and especially Ono, insist on treating the fans as if it was 1995 and there was little or no internet

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    #30  Edited By DirrtyNinja
    @Rhaknar: Double negative? .........Please clarify your statement.
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    #31  Edited By Sayishere

    Hes trolling again, i highly suspect console release is imminent

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    #32  Edited By DirrtyNinja
    @Sayishere said:
    " Hes trolling again, i highly suspect console release is imminent "
    Of course it is. They will want to cash in asap.
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    #33  Edited By ThePhantomnaut
    @DirrtyNinja said:
    " @GetEveryone said:
    " @ThePhantomnaut said:
    " Why should Arcade Edition come to consoles?"
    Because they can charge even more money. "
    I would happily pay full retail price for AE. "
    Buying a Taito Type X2 is hefty.
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    #34  Edited By Ichorid4
    @ThePhantomnaut said:
    " @DirrtyNinja said:
    " @GetEveryone said:
    " @ThePhantomnaut said:
    " Why should Arcade Edition come to consoles?"
    Because they can charge even more money. "
    I would happily pay full retail price for AE. "
    Buying a Taito Type X2 is hefty. "
    And you can't buy the unit at retail.
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    #35  Edited By scarace360

    Dont care if it hits consoles we got 4 cabs of it so still can play it.

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    #36  Edited By ThePhantomnaut
    @Ichorid4 said:
    " @ThePhantomnaut said:
    " @DirrtyNinja said:
    " @GetEveryone said:
    " @ThePhantomnaut said:
    " Why should Arcade Edition come to consoles?"
    Because they can charge even more money. "
    I would happily pay full retail price for AE. "
    Buying a Taito Type X2 is hefty. "
    And you can't buy the unit at retail. "
    Well you can sort of but generally nope.
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    #37  Edited By BBQBram

    Capcom, just give me Dark Ryu already!

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    #38  Edited By Undeadpool
    @VicRattlehead said:
    " Yoshi_OnoChin  Yoshinori Ono   
    They can't play SSFIVAE for console ofcouse. ;) It will be open...someday. ;) RT @HiRisk808: Wait...so there will be SSF4AE for console? =)
       
    Yoshi_OnoChin  Yoshinori Ono  
    I can't say yet now. BUT asap.... ;P RT @Wady172: Are you thinking in makingDLC of SSF4AEto consoles? And if yes,are going to come up soon?  
     
     
    oni is best troll 
     
    also "Unfortunately, Ono did not comment on what everyone really wants: home releases for Yun, Yang, Evil Ryu and Oni, all additional characters for the arcade version. It's widely expected that these characters will be offered as download content for home players"  from the original article....   "
    I have to disagree with that interviewer, I don't want Evil Ryu OR Oni Akuma. The game already has three shotos (and three shoto derivatives), it doesn't need two more.
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    #39  Edited By Scooper
    @Undeadpool said:

    " I have to disagree with that interviewer, I don't want Evil Ryu OR Oni Akuma. The game already has three shotos (and three shoto derivatives), it doesn't need two more. "

    I agree we don't really need Evil Ryu but come on. Oni looks ridiculas. He's like a mix of Akuma, Gouken and someting else. Some people think he may be Gouken had he gone satsui no hadou or even their trainer Goutetsu who came back from the grave.
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    #40  Edited By Undeadpool
    @Scooper said:
    " @Undeadpool said:

    " I have to disagree with that interviewer, I don't want Evil Ryu OR Oni Akuma. The game already has three shotos (and three shoto derivatives), it doesn't need two more. "

    I agree we don't really need Evil Ryu but come on. Oni looks ridiculas. He's like a mix of Akuma, Gouken and someting else. Some people think he may be Gouken had he gone satsui no hadou or even their trainer Goutetsu who came back from the grave. "
    Having seen some gameplay of both, I'm definitely sticking with my contention that Ryu is unnecessary. Oni still looks to have the same basic Shoto moves, they just gave him a few extra. That's nice, but he still plays VERY similarly.
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    #41  Edited By Scooper
    @Undeadpool said:
    " @Scooper said:
    " @Undeadpool said:

    " I have to disagree with that interviewer, I don't want Evil Ryu OR Oni Akuma. The game already has three shotos (and three shoto derivatives), it doesn't need two more. "

    I agree we don't really need Evil Ryu but come on. Oni looks ridiculas. He's like a mix of Akuma, Gouken and someting else. Some people think he may be Gouken had he gone satsui no hadou or even their trainer Goutetsu who came back from the grave. "
    Having seen some gameplay of both, I'm definitely sticking with my contention that Ryu is unnecessary. Oni still looks to have the same basic Shoto moves, they just gave him a few extra. That's nice, but he still plays VERY similarly. "
    Yeah, well get rid of Dan, Sakura, Ken and Seth then.
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    #42  Edited By Undeadpool
    @Scooper said:
    " @Undeadpool said:
    " @Scooper said:
    " @Undeadpool said:

    " I have to disagree with that interviewer, I don't want Evil Ryu OR Oni Akuma. The game already has three shotos (and three shoto derivatives), it doesn't need two more. "

    I agree we don't really need Evil Ryu but come on. Oni looks ridiculas. He's like a mix of Akuma, Gouken and someting else. Some people think he may be Gouken had he gone satsui no hadou or even their trainer Goutetsu who came back from the grave. "
    Having seen some gameplay of both, I'm definitely sticking with my contention that Ryu is unnecessary. Oni still looks to have the same basic Shoto moves, they just gave him a few extra. That's nice, but he still plays VERY similarly. "
    Yeah, well get rid of Dan, Sakura, Ken and Seth then. "
    Hell, I'd agree with Ken, he'd been redundant since the beginning. Dan and Sakura play differently enough, and all Seth has is the Shoryuken. Oni and Evil Ryu both have Hadouken, Shoryuken, and Tatsumaki which all travel almost identically and hit almost identically.
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    #43  Edited By Scooper
    @Undeadpool said:
    " @Scooper said:
    " @Undeadpool said:
    " @Scooper said:
    " @Undeadpool said:

    " I have to disagree with that interviewer, I don't want Evil Ryu OR Oni Akuma. The game already has three shotos (and three shoto derivatives), it doesn't need two more. "

    I agree we don't really need Evil Ryu but come on. Oni looks ridiculas. He's like a mix of Akuma, Gouken and someting else. Some people think he may be Gouken had he gone satsui no hadou or even their trainer Goutetsu who came back from the grave. "
    Having seen some gameplay of both, I'm definitely sticking with my contention that Ryu is unnecessary. Oni still looks to have the same basic Shoto moves, they just gave him a few extra. That's nice, but he still plays VERY similarly. "
    Yeah, well get rid of Dan, Sakura, Ken and Seth then. "
    Hell, I'd agree with Ken, he'd been redundant since the beginning. Dan and Sakura play differently enough, and all Seth has is the Shoryuken. Oni and Evil Ryu both have Hadouken, Shoryuken, and Tatsumaki which all travel almost identically and hit almost identically. "
    I think Oni plays differently enough.
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    #44  Edited By Bravestar

    I think Ken is different enough. His poke and kara-throw give him a different gameplan. Can't defend evil Ruy though. The only thing that really bugs me about shotos is the might of their dragon punch. 3 frame startup and a hitbox that starts on the ground. So dumb.

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    #45  Edited By Giacomito

    use the dragonpunch to your advantage! 
    I can udnerstand people complaining about shotos because they think they are too similar, although even that is crazy talk because they are not. 
    Sure they have similar moves, but they have different properties. 
    and really, the only similar ones are ken, ryu and akuma. Even then they are not in the way they are to be played. 
    Akuma is full of mix-ups on wake up, Ken has his whole kara-throw mind game and Ryu can be played either offensively or to zone out, all-around character. 
     
    But complaining about their dragon punch is just lazy imo. How about grapplers then? you cant do much against grapplers that mash command through in the middle of a block-string, you can only jump and even then it's not super easy to punish them always. 
    Whereas if you bate a dragon punch, it's a free punish everytime. 

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    #46  Edited By Undeadpool
    @Scooper said:

    " @Undeadpool said:

    " @Scooper said:
    " @Undeadpool said:
    " @Scooper said:
    " @Undeadpool said:

    " I have to disagree with that interviewer, I don't want Evil Ryu OR Oni Akuma. The game already has three shotos (and three shoto derivatives), it doesn't need two more. "

    I agree we don't really need Evil Ryu but come on. Oni looks ridiculas. He's like a mix of Akuma, Gouken and someting else. Some people think he may be Gouken had he gone satsui no hadou or even their trainer Goutetsu who came back from the grave. "
    Having seen some gameplay of both, I'm definitely sticking with my contention that Ryu is unnecessary. Oni still looks to have the same basic Shoto moves, they just gave him a few extra. That's nice, but he still plays VERY similarly. "
    Yeah, well get rid of Dan, Sakura, Ken and Seth then. "
    Hell, I'd agree with Ken, he'd been redundant since the beginning. Dan and Sakura play differently enough, and all Seth has is the Shoryuken. Oni and Evil Ryu both have Hadouken, Shoryuken, and Tatsumaki which all travel almost identically and hit almost identically. "
    I think Oni plays differently enough. "
    I'd have less of a problem, or no problem at all, with Oni if they weren't ALSO throwing Evil Ryu in.    
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    #47  Edited By Bravestar
    @Giacomito said:
    "But complaining about their dragon punch is just lazy imo. How about grapplers then?"
    Grapplers are annoying too. Do I have to include criticism of other styles, when I voice my dislike of one aspect of shotos?
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    #48  Edited By Giacomito
    @Bravestar: No you don't, it's just that people focus so much on hating on shotos. 
    I mean there are like what, 4 grapplers and I bet no one would complain if they added more.
     
    I guess I just don't really get where people are coming from when they complain about a character-style.  
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    #49  Edited By Bravestar
    @Giacomito: I think shotos get so much hate, because their moves are too similiar. They all share dragon punch, fireball and hurricane kick. Ofcourse in different variants, but they are still similar. Unlike the grapplers, who have nearly the same gameplan, but they don't share variants of the stinkfist or the lariat that look pretty much the same. Some people think if it looks the same, it is the same.
    Personally I don't mind more shotos, as long as they have unique traits. Which is why I'm not crazy about Evil Ruy.

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