The Black Star

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#1 Posted by DeadPan (389 posts) -

Im going to try not to spoil the mission, but i have a question about using it.

I dont enchant weapons, is it worth using this? It sounds pretty cool but i have no idea how to use it!

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#2 Posted by Alo81 (99 posts) -

Black star is definitely better than Azuras, but the boss to get the black star is tough as shit.

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#3 Posted by Dunchad (710 posts) -

Though it seems that purified star can hold human souls as well - unless they patched that.

But if you don't have weapons with enchants, then soul gems (inc. Azura's Star) are useless to you.

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#4 Posted by Spoonman671 (5803 posts) -

You'll still need souls to recharge any enchanted weapons you do actually use, so I would say that it's worth having around.

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#5 Posted by PepitoneConQueso (41 posts) -

The Black Star can only hold black souls which are always grand souls (the most powerful).

Since human souls are always black and because black soul gems are hard to come by/expensive The Black Star is the better choice. To use it just cast soul trap on a human enemy and kill it.

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#6 Posted by BraveToaster (12636 posts) -

@PepitoneConQueso said:

The Black Star can only hold black souls which are always grand souls (the most powerful).

Since human souls are always black and because black soul gems are hard to come by/expensive The Black Star is the better choice. To use it just cast soul trap on a human enemy and kill it.

Not all black souls are grand souls. I've had a Petty Soul in my Black Star.

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#7 Posted by Oldirtybearon (5626 posts) -

Out of curiosity, how the hell do you use the Azura/Black Star? Soul Gems have always been an incomprehensible wall for me. Just can't figure out how they work or how to use them (aside from RB to Reload).

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#8 Posted by WiqidBritt (591 posts) -

apparently the Black Star doesn't just trap human souls, it might be glitched that way

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#9 Edited by PepitoneConQueso (41 posts) -

@Axxol: I think black soul gems can hold any soul, but only black soul gems can hold black souls; regular soul gems can hold any soul except black souls. Ow my head...

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#10 Posted by BraveToaster (12636 posts) -

@PepitoneConQueso said:

@Axxol: I think black soul gems can hold any soul, but only black soul gems can hold black souls; regular soul gems can hold any soul except black souls. Ow my head...

Yes, but the Black Star isn't just any black soul gem.

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#11 Posted by PepitoneConQueso (41 posts) -

@Axxol: Right, but it holds black souls and Azuras star does not.

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#12 Edited by BraveToaster (12636 posts) -

@PepitoneConQueso said:

@Axxol: Right, but it holds black souls and Azuras star does not.

Yes, I know. You stated that Black Souls are always Grand, which is incorrect.

Edit: Well, all human souls are Grand, but I've had a Petty Soul in my Black Star. I guess it;'s glitched like WiqidBritt stated. My apologies.

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#13 Posted by Xcessive (116 posts) -

Cast soul trap on your enemies before you kill them, and the star will hold the soul. Use it to enchant things or recharge enchantments to level up Enchanting, without spending $$$

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#14 Posted by ShadowSkill11 (1877 posts) -

@Axxol said:

@PepitoneConQueso said:

The Black Star can only hold black souls which are always grand souls (the most powerful).

Since human souls are always black and because black soul gems are hard to come by/expensive The Black Star is the better choice. To use it just cast soul trap on a human enemy and kill it.

Not all black souls are grand souls. I've had a Petty Soul in my Black Star.

Thats because you captured a petty soul and at the time you didn't have anything empty except for your black star.

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#15 Posted by TheDudeOfGaming (6116 posts) -

Black Star is more beneficial for enchanting...so...much...more!
But from a role playing aspect, I'm playing a good guy, and i don't wanna piss off Azura. So it's up to you. Black Soul Gems are common enough at high levels (Went to Hag's End got like 6 black gems from that dungeon). At the same time if you take the Black star you have an unlimited amount of Black Gems.

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#16 Posted by Arker101 (1484 posts) -

@DeadPan:Are you deciding on what to do?

From a roleplaying standpoint, Azura isn't Good or Evil, but she messes up dudes who don't obey her. The Mage guys arn't really evil either, but those dudes you retrieve it from arn't (insert guy at the inn name here) his friends and those guys are evil.

From a statistical standpoint, Black Star (The one you get from Mage Inn Guy) is vastly superior in every way. It's great for recharging a weapon even if you don't enchant, because bandits are extremely common and their souls will easily recharge your weapon(s).

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#17 Posted by Tennmuerti (9136 posts) -
@TheDudeOfGaming said:
Black Star is more beneficial for enchanting...so...much...more! But from a role playing aspect, I'm playing a good guy, and i don't wanna piss off Azura. So it's up to you. Black Soul Gems are common enough at high levels (Went to Hag's End got like 6 black gems from that dungeon). At the same time if you take the Black star you have an unlimited amount of Black Gems.
From a role playing aspect my decent (not goody 2 shoes but decent) guy totally pissed off Azura.
She is a daedra that meddles with fate and mortals and shit. Just because she ain't evil like the rest doesn't make her all nice either.
I think it's totally ok for even a good character to try to defy Azura and her notion of fate.
 
At least that's how I looked at it.

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