I'm well over halfway through the game (don't know how many hours because the game doesn't keep track of it) and it is so much better than I expected.  For the low price gamestop is selling it for, I thought I might as well give it a shot and I'm really glad I did.  When it originally came out, the game got bad scores because of severe slowdown and an even more severe tendency to freeze.  When you install the game to the system though, there is still a bit of slowdown in the bigger conflicts (50-ish characters on screen at once), but none outside of combat (which is turn-based so it doesn't really bug me when it does happen) and there have been zero freezes.  When you get past those otherwise crippling technical issues, you're left with what is probably the deepest combat system I've ever seen in a JRPG.  You can take or leave the story (it's pretty meh), but I'm continually amazed with the way you can build up so many different characters and use so many different strategies in battle.  Enough of this rant.  The point is, if you're looking for a good JRPG, check this one out.

I didn't like it. I didn't like the story, the characters, or the combat. I quickly forgot the entire game despite making it near the end and I didn't really enjoy any of it because the combat system never sucked me in and the characters weren't interesting. Don't let me stop people from checking it out, though, because that's not what I'm trying to do. I just didn't enjoy it.

iv been meaning to try this game, heard some mix reviews on the site and from people that played this game.  I haven't played the demo yet which i should, its just iv been so busy  with other games. Maybe when the slow months hit ill play it.

I bought mine months ago and one day, I will play it  ^-^

You're overlooking some major flaws -- the leader system on the 360 is entirely broken -- whats the point of the guilds and recruiting more when you can't even use all of the 6 main character leaders you start off with?! The equipment system is also busted -- you have to hope they ask you if they can use an item you happened to find or buy for them, you can't just equip it on them.. wth? Or you just have to hope you find the right drops from fights that they'll take to make themselves better gear... ugg. The combat options felt completely random (though some say they're not and they based on a ton of factors such as distance, party build, etc etc but even they admitted it took them countless hours to come to this conclusion) -- I'd have parties with healers that would never get heal commands or fighting parties that wouldn't have the option to use all of the characters skills even though I had tons of points stockpiled so they could use them... I lost long fights because of the inability to use a command that should have been readily available, which is super frustrating.
 
Agreed the plot is completely throw-away.. which is usually a major selling point of rpgs, though granted, not always. Even so, the main character was just so... so bad ><  
 
And yes many of the side-quests were well done, I found myself doing them all on the first disc... the second disc doesn't really have very many. It's just unfortunate that they never really yielded a worthwhile reward -- often times because of that leader system problem -- "Yay, I can recruit a new leader... that I will never use.... siiigh".
 
It's good to hear you got some enjoyment out of it, but I stand by my opinion that this game isn't just godawful, it's broken.

I played it on PC and it was the first JRPG that i played.

I enjoyed it quite a bit too until the ending pissed me off.

I enjoyed the game quite a bit. I wouldn't say it's underrated though, because it's more a niche type of RPG:

I been meaning to check out the PC version. Back when I was the kind of person who pretended something was amazing based on how obscure it was, I was all about Romancing Saga 3 and this is by the same people. They're like bizzaro Quest, all of their experiments tend to end in disaster.

No, it's not underrated. I would even say it's overrated, despite the negative reception. The combat is tedious as hell  -- the attack animations are so long it feels like I'm watching a cutscene every single turn, and a ton of stuff is random, stuff that pretty much all role-playing games give you control over -- the pop-in is terrible even if you install the game, and the story and characters are downright painful to watch. Every time the main character opens his mouth, I feel like throwing my controller at the screen.

" I enjoyed the game quite a bit. I wouldn't say it's underrated though, because it's more a niche type of RPG: "

yeah i've heard good things specially if you install it to the hard drive and most all the issues just disapear.
Its too bad square didn't make the game better so installing it to the hard drive wasn't a requirement.

I bought it when it came out, played it once, and never played it again. I traded it with someone for a far superior game that I can't remember.

" I'm well over halfway through the game (don't know how many hours because the game doesn't keep track of it) and it is so much better than I expected.  For the low price gamestop is selling it for, I thought I might as well give it a shot and I'm really glad I did.  When it originally came out, the game got bad scores because of severe slowdown and an even more severe tendency to freeze.  When you install the game to the system though, there is still a bit of slowdown in the bigger conflicts (50-ish characters on screen at once), but none outside of combat (which is turn-based so it doesn't really bug me when it does happen) and there have been zero freezes.  When you get past those otherwise crippling technical issues, you're left with what is probably the deepest combat system I've ever seen in a JRPG.  You can take or leave the story (it's pretty meh), but I'm continually amazed with the way you can build up so many different characters and use so many different strategies in battle.  Enough of this rant.  The point is, if you're looking for a good JRPG, check this one out. "

I bought it when it originally came out, played for a few hours, wasnt really impressed, and never went back to it. That and Lost Odyssey are the two games I've Always wanted to go back to.

I think its great as well. I have the pc version.

Honestly i haven't Played Last Remnant, however i felt the exact same way about Infinite Undiscovery.
Don't know why but i didn't think it was THAT bad.

" @Shadow said:

" I'm well over halfway through the game (don't know how many hours because the game doesn't keep track of it) and it is so much better than I expected.  For the low price gamestop is selling it for, I thought I might as well give it a shot and I'm really glad I did.  When it originally came out, the game got bad scores because of severe slowdown and an even more severe tendency to freeze.  When you install the game to the system though, there is still a bit of slowdown in the bigger conflicts (50-ish characters on screen at once), but none outside of combat (which is turn-based so it doesn't really bug me when it does happen) and there have been zero freezes.  When you get past those otherwise crippling technical issues, you're left with what is probably the deepest combat system I've ever seen in a JRPG.  You can take or leave the story (it's pretty meh), but I'm continually amazed with the way you can build up so many different characters and use so many different strategies in battle.  Enough of this rant.  The point is, if you're looking for a good JRPG, check this one out. "

Are you kidding? It's overrated if anything. I hate the leveling system. You basically have to avoid combat as much as possible to be able to survive the later parts of the game. That system is just ridiculous. If the leveling system was "normal" I wouldn't hate it so much. But yeah, I heard if you grind guys early on the game will be pretty much unfinishable towards the end due to how the progression works. Lame city. "

Eh it was alright, the combat had some neat ideas (though I wouldn't call it the deepest by a long shot), but the story and setting were pretty forgettable, and I didn't like the protagonist enough to keep going.  
 
The technical issues were the biggest turn-off. I have a pretty high threshold for these sorts of things, but this game was kinda ridiculous, even after installing (which I just don't have any room for, now.)

" @JJWeatherman said:

" @Shadow said:

" I'm well over halfway through the game (don't know how many hours because the game doesn't keep track of it) and it is so much better than I expected.  For the low price gamestop is selling it for, I thought I might as well give it a shot and I'm really glad I did.  When it originally came out, the game got bad scores because of severe slowdown and an even more severe tendency to freeze.  When you install the game to the system though, there is still a bit of slowdown in the bigger conflicts (50-ish characters on screen at once), but none outside of combat (which is turn-based so it doesn't really bug me when it does happen) and there have been zero freezes.  When you get past those otherwise crippling technical issues, you're left with what is probably the deepest combat system I've ever seen in a JRPG.  You can take or leave the story (it's pretty meh), but I'm continually amazed with the way you can build up so many different characters and use so many different strategies in battle.  Enough of this rant.  The point is, if you're looking for a good JRPG, check this one out. "

Are you kidding? It's overrated if anything. I hate the leveling system. You basically have to avoid combat as much as possible to be able to survive the later parts of the game. That system is just ridiculous. If the leveling system was "normal" I wouldn't hate it so much. But yeah, I heard if you grind guys early on the game will be pretty much unfinishable towards the end due to how the progression works. Lame city. "

spoken as someone who has no idea what those later parts of the game are actually like "

" tricky pickle. "

RPG with no story? Nooooo thank youz

Nah I feel confident in saying that game was pretty bad.

" RPG with no story? Nooooo thank youz "

" @Evilsbane said:

" RPG with no story? Nooooo thank youz "

Are you kidding? The story in most RPGs is a joke already. Is that really what drove you forward in, say, Oblivion? Wow. "

" @ryanwho said:

" @Evilsbane said:

" RPG with no story? Nooooo thank youz "

Are you kidding? The story in most RPGs is a joke already. Is that really what drove you forward in, say, Oblivion? Wow. "

What the fuck are you talking about? Sorry that you find the stories in RPG's so awful but yes I play games for the story regardless of genre, And yes Oblivion had some awesome quest lines Did you even play the Dark Brotherhood quest line? That was fantastic, and Mass Effect had an awesome story, Dragon Age, Baldur's Gate, System Shock 2(More FPS but heavy RPG elements) and many many more so you can take your "Most RPG's have a joke story" and shove it. "

" @Shadow said:

" @JJWeatherman said:

" @Shadow said:

" I'm well over halfway through the game (don't know how many hours because the game doesn't keep track of it) and it is so much better than I expected.  For the low price gamestop is selling it for, I thought I might as well give it a shot and I'm really glad I did.  When it originally came out, the game got bad scores because of severe slowdown and an even more severe tendency to freeze.  When you install the game to the system though, there is still a bit of slowdown in the bigger conflicts (50-ish characters on screen at once), but none outside of combat (which is turn-based so it doesn't really bug me when it does happen) and there have been zero freezes.  When you get past those otherwise crippling technical issues, you're left with what is probably the deepest combat system I've ever seen in a JRPG.  You can take or leave the story (it's pretty meh), but I'm continually amazed with the way you can build up so many different characters and use so many different strategies in battle.  Enough of this rant.  The point is, if you're looking for a good JRPG, check this one out. "

Are you kidding? It's overrated if anything. I hate the leveling system. You basically have to avoid combat as much as possible to be able to survive the later parts of the game. That system is just ridiculous. If the leveling system was "normal" I wouldn't hate it so much. But yeah, I heard if you grind guys early on the game will be pretty much unfinishable towards the end due to how the progression works. Lame city. "

spoken as someone who has no idea what those later parts of the game are actually like "

Uh... yeah. I thought I made that clear. By the way according to you, you don't know what those part are like either. You'd better hope you haven't been fighting too much or you could find yourself in a tricky pickle. "

I have almost bought this game several times. It often comes up on special and easy to find cheap, but I know I'll never play it and ultimately that and poor reviews stop me from buying it.

Its incredibly difficult and long . I imagine that out a few people off playing it .

I've been playing the PC version recently.
 
I can see why it got low review scores, The Technical issues still sorta plague the PC version, even though i have all 10GB installed on my HDD :<, but i like it, for a combat system where you have EVEN LESS control than most JRPGs, it's oddly appealing to just watch how the fights unfold as you pick your commands. The story is cornball, which isn't suprising, but it's enough to push me to try and finish it. The whole 'squad' gameplay is kind of cool, gives me sort of a Suikoden vibe, although not exactly.
 
It's not a very great game, but it's got some appeal, if you can get it for 25$ or less and you can tolerate the new mechanics it's trying to teach you, it's an alright experience.

I got a lot of mileage out of Last Remnant myself, but quit the game somewhere late on when I discovered that I wouldn't be getting any more party members.  I'd been playing the whole game switching characters in and out so that when the time came, I could have five full squads of leveled named characters and when all that turned out to be a waste, that was a problem to me.  I won't play it again because of the randomness, the most annoying thing being the summons, which made a gigantic difference and yet couldn't be relied upon to appear even in some difficult fights.  The game also could have stood to better explain some of its powerful mechanics like Blackout.  And who the hell designed those frog characters?  So annoying to look at/listen to/have nightmares about.