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    The Witcher

    Game » consists of 8 releases. Released Oct 26, 2007

    The Witcher is an Action Role Playing Game developed by CD Projekt RED and is based on the book "The Last Wish" by Polish author Andrzej Sapkowski. An Enhanced Edition was released in September, 2008. A director's cut version was released for North America on July 31, 2009.

    Why should I play The Witcher?

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    Vash108

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    #51  Edited By Vash108

    play it, that is all.

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    #52  Edited By HitmanAgent47
    @Vodun: I haven't played the witcher fully, so don't spoil the ending for me. Then again I don't even think I can get to the ending. Having moral decisions doesn't automatically make the game good gameplay wise, that's more of the story again which doesn't really affect it's gameplay. 
     
    It's honestly boring, maybe the witcher 2 will be more interesting. If that's the only game available for rpgs these days. I'll quit wrpg games alltogether. Mass effect another bioware game has moral decisions too which character lives or dies. So that make sit better? Just because dragon age doesn't, doesn't make it worst. Storyline stuff isn't very important getting you a better score.
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    #53  Edited By mylifeforAiur
    @HitmanAgent47: Have you actually watched a porn movie? Why do you keep referencing Heavenly Sword? I didn't like the story in that game, but it did play very well. And I think anybody will agree that MGS plays pretty shitty. Story should be considered just as highly as gameplay, both are really important. I should probably say I haven't played The Witcher, I was speaking about the LucasArts-style adventure games^^  
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    #54  Edited By HitmanAgent47
    @mylifeforAiur: Let me ask you a question, does donkey kong, or pac man, or tetris needs a good story line to have good gameplay or to be considered a good game? 
     
    For others mentioning mgs4, that might be the only exception i've ever seen where they overate a game because they are fanboys of the game and the cutscenes are so good, they forgot they are reviewing a game because there wasn't alot of gameplay. However the gameplay is the same and more refined compared to ps2 mgs games, even if there wasn't alot of gameplay. The length of gameplay doesn't really matter, there are some high scoring low length games out there. 
     
    So in conclusion, having moral conquences, or decisions gameplay wise doesn't improve the game or adds to the gameplay, that's just a story device and games aren't reviewed for it's story.
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    #55  Edited By mylifeforAiur
    @HitmanAgent47 said:

    " @mylifeforAiur: Let me ask you a question, does donkey kong, or pac man, or tetris needs a good story line to have good gameplay or to be considered a good game? "

    No, they don't. I'm trying to that they are equal! I'm not saying that gameplay isn't important, because in most cases it is. That still doesn't meant that the story aspect of a game should be disregarded. The story is usually relevant to the game's genre. Arcade-ish games don't need a good story, their gameplay is fun enough to suffice. The FPS genre however, usually needs an exciting story (at least for me), but that's purely due to the mass amount of them that exist. Same with RPG's to a lesser extent, I don't want to spend a large amount of time without a interesting story to keep me fueled. Video game writing has come a long way since the 'arcade' days, Mass Effect, Bioshock and I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream (among many others) prove this^^
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    #56  Edited By HitmanAgent47
    @mylifeforAiur: For me it's like 70% gameplay 30% story. Watch this youtube video, it reflects my views. Even shows how the story of the witcher doesn't mean anything if the gameplay isn't good. I mean sure the story might be good to you, well not to me. That 30% of the score needs to have better gameplay. Having three stances and clicking the mouse at an enemy is really not what I call great gameplay. There are alot of games without a great story, just cause 2, ninja gaiden black, dragon age orgins, racing games, sport games, L4d games with a shitty story, team fortress 2, rts games ect. It's not always about the story and that can be a crutch.
     
      
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    #57  Edited By mylifeforAiur
    @HitmanAgent47: Alright, it's 2.30am in SA right now. So let's just agree that we both value gameplay and story differently, and that's fine, if everybody was the same the world would be a boring place. Maybe the story is bad for The Witcher, I haven't played it. Good night (or morning?), and have fun!^^ 
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    #58  Edited By Jeust
    @HitmanAgent47 said:

    " @mylifeforAiur: For me it's like 70% gameplay 30% story. Watch this youtube video, it reflects my views. Even shows how the story of the witcher doesn't mean anything if the gameplay isn't good. I mean sure the story might be good to you, well not to me. That 30% of the score needs to have better gameplay. Having three stances and clicking the mouse at an enemy is really not what I call great gameplay.
     

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    You know RPG stands for Role-playing game. If the role-playing isn't up to snuff why should i care for the game? 
     
    You are right about the gameplay importance, but RPG is a genre that is traditionally based upon a interesting story, that makes the player stroll among the good and bad gameplay decisions of games. Without it you have only the functionality of the gameplay.
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    #59  Edited By HitmanAgent47
    @Jeust: I don't know, maybe it might have fun gameplay. You can create your own characters and choose your own orgins story. I mean even oblivion had a medicore story, some guy sees some vision, you open a few portals and get the king to a specific spot to finish the game. Is that a great story? No, however the gameplay is fun. Maybe some of you casual gamers doesn't really care about gameplay anymore, over story and motivations because the witcher if you skip all the cutscenes, it can't stand on it's own. If you skip all the cutscenes, then the witcher is nothing but a boring template of an wrpg game with point and click gameplay.
     
    You still haven't answered my question yet. Did you play the pc version of dragon age orgins or the console version? The console version's score is lowered and the experience is lowered overall for gameplay. There are no tactics.
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    #60  Edited By Jeust
    @HitmanAgent47 said:

    " @Jeust: I don't know, maybe it might have fun gameplay. You can create your own characters and choose your own orgins story. I mean even oblivion had a medicore story, some guy sees some vision, you open a few portals and get the king to a specific spot to finish the game. Is that a great story? No, however the gameplay is fun. Maybe some of you casual games doesn't really care about gameplay anymore, over story and motivations because the witcher if you skip all the cutscenes can't stand on it's own. 
     
    You still haven't answered my question yet. Did you play the pc version of dragon age orgins or the console version? The console version's score is lowered and the experience is lowered overall for gameplay. There are no tactics.
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    ah, I played the PC version.  I generally play the RPG when possible in the PC.
     
    About Oblivion i think the fascination had to do with the amount of things you could do. You could live a lifetime (in a real week) of pillaging and exploring creepy ruins without even reaching the endgame. ^^  
     
    And you are right about the Witcher standing greatly in the cutscenes, still it did another thing. It played with the mind of the gamers as from time to time, you could save or kill characters, that later would appear again and have some degree of influence in the story, or you would have access to criptic entries in their diaries that foretold of something that the given character was conjuring (plans) that now that he's dead you can't know until you fall on their trap.  
     
    Dragon Age had variation in the beginning with the origins, still that didn't last much more than the origin story itself. When you got to the Warden's encampment the game followed greatly the same plot.
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    #61  Edited By HitmanAgent47
    @Jeust: yes, there are a ton of variety in oblivion, also the gameplay is good. The gameplay is like gta4, with rpg elements, in an open world. It's not a point and click adventure. There's no real story, or moral choices in the game. The game is 93% on gamerankings and you can't use the overated bioware excuses. It goes against everything you believe in for a good score and highly rated game.  
     
    Maybe you like low AA games better, they tend to be innovative, tries to be different, has mediocre gameplay yet it has alot of appeal. There is nothing wrong with that, lots of ppl like AA games when the genre appeals to them. However you shouldn't tell ppl who likes gameplay more than graphics or story which is probally the last category I find important to say the witch is automatically good because it appeals to your AA level taste in games. My main problem is mostly with the gameplay and the dull story. I can't even force myself to play it anymore. The pacing is horrible, it goes on forever and the characters is uninteresting. With oblivion and dragon age orgins, I can at least create my own characters with is more interested than some guy with long white hair with a sword.  
     
    Maybe for me, i'm the guy who doesn't like cutscenes and won't view them a second time if I can skip it during a second playthough going right into the gameplay.
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    #62  Edited By Jeust
    @HitmanAgent47:  
     

     Maybe for me, i'm the guy who doesn't like cutscenes and won't view them a second time if I can skip it during a second playthough going right into the gameplay.    

    I am the guy that likes cutscenes and will view them a second and a third time, before going into the gameplay. 
     
    I think this summarizes our divergences. ahaha 
     
    And you are right about what you said. I am probably more of an AA guy.  
     

     It goes against everything you believe in for a good score and highly rated game.      

    It doesn't. I can appreciate a game that gives me a vivid experience of some fantasy for hours to no end. Oblivion is a great game on its own right. 
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    #63  Edited By Jikla

    I played trough dragon age origins on the pc on Normal difficulty and I beat it in 40 hours (done everything including 2 dlcs). The only replay value for the game as I see it is to play other beginning stories, (noble etc) and after that maybe start a new class. But I can't get myself to play this game again because I thought it was boring (especially the mage arc). Bioware said this game would be on par with baldurs gate 2...they lied. 


    I'm thinking about testing the witcher to see if it's as good as they say. But that will have to wait till christmas because of finals. Maybe I'll write a review with my crappy english...

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    #64  Edited By ATrevelan

    Yo, The Witcher is the absolute shit. Like someone said a few pages back, wait for it to go on sale for a ridiculously low price sometime in the next two months, play it, and have the time of your life. 
     
    It absolutely does start slow--no doubt about it--but once it revs up it does not let you down at all.

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    #65  Edited By ryanwho

    Witcher's a fun character. Side quests suck, just collecting animal eyeballs and shit. Main quest is alright, though. Fire magic is broken. Has some of the better ambience I've seen in a game. And there are like 5 NPC models, its ridiculous. That's the Witcher.

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    #66  Edited By TruthOasis

    You have to let it grow on you. The first couple hours I thought were kinda lame, but then it got epic. Easily one of my favorite PC games.

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    #67  Edited By XtremePudim

    I played the Witcher and loved it, but be advised the game has some issues, i played it for 42 hours (according to Steam) and in that time the game must have crashed back to desktop about 8 to 10 times on me, other than that its a really great game

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    #68  Edited By hexx462
    @HitmanAgent47: The more you inanely rail against The Witcher and focus on review scores as being some sort of absolute method to determine one's enjoyment of a game the more I want play it.
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    #69  Edited By HitmanAgent47
    @hexx462: Then play it, steam is going to have a big sale at december. Even janurary for every game on steam I think, if I remembered from last year. I bought it for like $13.59 I think because that's what it said for my transaction.
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    #70  Edited By reddin

    I definitely think you should play it, if only because you have enjoyed western RPGs and this is an interesting example of one.
    I ended up really liking it, but it was a slow burn. The first chapter is easily the worst in the game and I never got along with the combat system, but I ended up loving the world and the characters you meet.

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