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Gabe says he'll make all our dreams come true this E3
@AhmadMetallic said:
The only way HL3 would be a decent game today is if Valve created Source 2.0, so, are we expecting that? will Valve do a good job with an all new engine?
Probably the most baffling statement I've read all day, and this includes the guy asking why we have countries. So the quality of Valve games is based solely on the version number of the engine now? Since when? And why would you have any doubts that Valve would be able to get the best out of technology they develop for the purpose of realising their vision? They did it just fine with Half Life 2.
I'm staggered. You must be some kind of troll that I've totally fallen for.
@The_Laughing_Man said:
@Maajin said:
Did you guys see this? Some folks at 4chan were, well, 4channing:
They sent this e-mail to gaben@valvesoftware.com
The next day, presumably Gabe wrote back with this:
I can't atest for the truthness of it all, and maybe a really angry intern is taking care of Gabe's e-mail account. If it's really Gabe Newell though, I just hope he doesn't think our favorite thing is a new Day of Defeat or something.
Would Gabe waste his time writing back to 4chan 13 year olds?
His email was all over the orange box dev diary.
@Insectecutor said:
@AhmadMetallic said:
The only way HL3 would be a decent game today is if Valve created Source 2.0, so, are we expecting that? will Valve do a good job with an all new engine?Probably the most baffling statement I've read all day, and this includes the guy asking why we have countries. So the quality of Valve games is based solely on the version number of the engine now? Since when? And why would you have any doubts that Valve would be able to get the best out of technology they develop for the purpose of realising their vision? They did it just fine with Half Life 2.
I'm staggered. You must be some kind of troll that I've totally fallen for.
That is the reveal, Source 3.0
So the quality of Valve games is based solely on the version number of the engine now? Since when?
In 2012, nearing the next console's arrival, with games like Battlefield 3 and Witcher 2 on the market (tech/graphics), games like Modern Warfare and Gears of War (shootiness), do we REALLY want a non-iron-sights crowbar-driven shooter looking like LEFT 4 DEAD and loading every 2 minutes like PORTAL 2?
Yes, they changed the face of the industry with Source and Half-Life 2, 8 years ago.. I think it's pretty reasonable to doubt their ability to innovate in technology again.And why would you have any doubts that Valve would be able to get the best out of technology they develop for the purpose of realising their vision? They did it just fine with Half Life 2.
Relax.I'm staggered. You must be some kind of troll that I've totally fallen for.
Have we been anticipating something else for the past few years?@AhmadMetallic said:
Half-Life 3, however, will be a long, sandnox-ish blockbuster FPS.It will?
@The_Laughing_Man said:
@Maajin said:
Would Gabe waste his time writing back to 4chan 13 year olds?
He's trolling the trolls.
@AhmadMetallic said:
@Insectecutor said:So the quality of Valve games is based solely on the version number of the engine now? Since when?
I didn't say the quality of Valve games is based on it, L4D and Portal and CS and TF2 are all fine running on the current technology, since they're arena multiplayer shooters, a co-op survival game, and a linear, story-driven puzzler.Half-Life 3, however, will be a long, sandnox-ish blockbuster FPS. The quality of THAT, will go down the toilet if powered by Valve's current engine, and the reasoning is right there in my post:@AhmadMetallic said:In 2012, nearing the next console's arrival, with games like Battlefield 3 and Witcher 2 on the market (tech/graphics), games like Modern Warfare and Gears of War (shootiness), do we REALLY want a non-iron-sights crowbar-driven shooter looking like LEFT 4 DEAD and loading every 2 minutes like PORTAL 2?Yes, they changed the face of the industry with Source and Half-Life 2, 8 years ago.. I think it's pretty reasonable to doubt their ability to innovate in technology again.And why would you have any doubts that Valve would be able to get the best out of technology they develop for the purpose of realising their vision? They did it just fine with Half Life 2.
Relax.I'm staggered. You must be some kind of troll that I've totally fallen for.
Half life 2 felt open, but in reality was very liner, also you have no idea what it will be, only what it was. also what about half life episode 3?
@AhmadMetallic said:
@TeflonBilly said:Have we been anticipating something else for the past few years?@AhmadMetallic said:
Half-Life 3, however, will be a long, sandnox-ish blockbuster FPS.It will?
Sandbox FPS would suggest something like Crysis or Far Cry to me. That's not what I'm expecting or have heard anything tangible about Half Life 3 to be.
@AhmadMetallic said:
@Insectecutor said:So the quality of Valve games is based solely on the version number of the engine now? Since when?
I didn't say the quality of Valve games is based on it, L4D and Portal and CS and TF2 are all fine running on the current technology, since they're arena multiplayer shooters, a co-op survival game, and a linear, story-driven puzzler.Half-Life 3, however, will be a long, sandnox-ish blockbuster FPS. The quality of THAT, will go down the toilet if powered by Valve's current engine, and the reasoning is right there in my post:@AhmadMetallic said:In 2012, nearing the next console's arrival, with games like Battlefield 3 and Witcher 2 on the market (tech/graphics), games like Modern Warfare and Gears of War (shootiness), do we REALLY want a non-iron-sights crowbar-driven shooter looking like LEFT 4 DEAD and loading every 2 minutes like PORTAL 2?
Everything you point to here are design choices rather than limitations of the engine, except perhaps the loading which a lot of newer games mask with areas specifically built for the purpose (god damn elevators) or some sort of streaming. I have no idea if Source supports loading like that, but it's been extended so many times over the past five years (remember HL2 didn't have HDR - that came in Ep1, and portals and fluid dynamics and so on were all added) it wouldn't surprise me.
A lot of people have this issue with Source. Because there's no major version number everyone thinks it never changes, but that was the whole point - it was intended to be modular and extensible from the outset.
I would be very happy with Ep3 being released at all, even if it was using exactly the same technology as Ep2.
@Insectecutor said:
@AhmadMetallic said:
@Insectecutor said:So the quality of Valve games is based solely on the version number of the engine now? Since when?
I didn't say the quality of Valve games is based on it, L4D and Portal and CS and TF2 are all fine running on the current technology, since they're arena multiplayer shooters, a co-op survival game, and a linear, story-driven puzzler.Half-Life 3, however, will be a long, sandnox-ish blockbuster FPS. The quality of THAT, will go down the toilet if powered by Valve's current engine, and the reasoning is right there in my post:@AhmadMetallic said:In 2012, nearing the next console's arrival, with games like Battlefield 3 and Witcher 2 on the market (tech/graphics), games like Modern Warfare and Gears of War (shootiness), do we REALLY want a non-iron-sights crowbar-driven shooter looking like LEFT 4 DEAD and loading every 2 minutes like PORTAL 2?Everything you point to here are design choices rather than limitations of the engine, except perhaps the loading which a lot of newer games mask with areas specifically built for the purpose (god damn elevators) or some sort of streaming. I have no idea if Source supports loading like that, but it's been extended so many times over the past five years (remember HL2 didn't have HDR - that came in Ep1, and portals and fluid dynamics and so on were all added) it wouldn't surprise me.
A lot of people have this issue with Source. Because there's no major version number everyone thinks it never changes, but that was the whole point - it was intended to be modular and extensible from the outset.
I would be very happy with Ep3 being released at all, even if it was using exactly the same technology as Ep2.
Just for the sake of knowledge completeness, the current version of Source cannot load assets via streaming and must do it the old-fashioned way. Every loading screen of Portal 2 (even the one where you aren't even in a 'loading' room but in the middle of a walkway during an escape sequence) is the result of them hard-loading the next level of their game, which in this day and age can be avoided if they employ newer loading techniques into their engine. They didn't and the game (at least in my eyes) will always be slightly less immersive because of arbitrary waiting, even if they are only a few seconds each on a PC.
They tout that Source is quite modular so they should theoretically be able to add it in, but they are currently working on Dota 2 and CS: GO, both games that are too small to benefit from streaming techniques. It really would take a game like the next Half Life to see if Valve can successfully implement it, as well as if Source can still be seen as a relevant engine for the next generation of games. Even then (depending on how much people actually care about graphics) it will be interesting to see how a Source game can compare visually to the next set of engines in the future. I hope their core graphics engine is also a modular, upgradeable component in Source as even now I can see the difference in quality between a Source game and a newer engine game as clear as day, and not in a good way (though of course that doesn't personally make me stop playing them as they are fun, but I always prefer the best of graphics and gameplay myself wherever possible).
@Insectecutor said:
You would, but Valve, game critics, and most customers wouldn't. Episode 2, powered by Source, had those silly rocket explosions, bad-ish car driving, stiff throwing physics, shitty textures, etc.... Note that I'm not criticizing it, I fucking love Valve's games, but the explosions and textures etc.. are silly and shitty by today's standards is my point.I would be very happy with Ep3 being released at all, even if it was using exactly the same technology as Ep2.
Half-Life 3 will not survive against all these new massive good-looking good-sounding triple A blockbusters, powered by the Source engine.
Sure, they enhance this and they add that, but the core assets of the engine are the same. A few examples, same ones I mentioned above, are explosion effects, sound effects, and textures.it's been extended so many times over the past five years (remember HL2 didn't have HDR - that came in Ep1, and portals and fluid dynamics and so on were all added) it wouldn't surprise me.
A lot of people have this issue with Source. Because there's no major version number everyone thinks it never changes, but that was the whole point - it was intended to be modular and extensible from the outset.
Gaben is a sneaky asshole
If he DID write that, I'm sure the "I don't suppose" part is the bulk of what makes this statement NOT CONFIRMATION and rather just a plain ordinary QUESTION.
It's like saying "I don't suppose you'd feel better if I gave you a thousand dollars in the next hour?" Doesn't mean I'll up and do it.
@Dtat said:
@The_Laughing_Man: Actually he has a history of responding to emails personally. I wouldn't be surprised if that was him.
This is true. He also has a history of trolling people :P
Still, at this point, as long as Valve is announcing something, I'm excited.
@Dagbiker said:
It's an alyx vance sex doll
I would be surprised if that didn't already exist.
It's obviously a knife based action game.
@mac_n_nina said:
gave should hit a fucking treadmill
seeing people as fat as him just grosses me out
I'm sure that seeing people with poor grammar skills that feel the need to comment on his weight in a forum on the internet grosses him out.
Anyways, if he is seriously going to say "Half-Life (insert whatever else next to it" for whatever the announcement is, then IT'S ABOUT FUCKING TIME! The question is whether or not it will be too little too late.
@jakob187 said:
@mac_n_nina said:
gave should hit a fucking treadmill
seeing people as fat as him just grosses me out
I'm sure that seeing people with poor grammar skills that feel the need to comment on his weight in a forum on the internet grosses him out.
Anyways, if he is seriously going to say "Half-Life (insert whatever else next to it" for whatever the announcement is, then IT'S ABOUT FUCKING TIME! The question is whether or not it will be too little too late.
i could give a shit less
its the internet not a paper for college
on top of that its the internet so ill probably be talking to the uneducated and uncivilized side of the person
also he didnt seem to mind the email
It's an Eli Vance sex doll with an insertion hole where the probe wound on his head is.
This.. is a dream of mine..
@hurdes said:
@JasonR86:
Did you even bother to read the image?
Every single word from the letter is from a different person. It was all added together at the end of the thread and sent to him. They've done it before. I think I've seen 2 other ones.
All I read was the e-mail sent to Gabe. I wasn't aware that they were pooling all their bull-shit into one big pile of bull-shit. You must feel lucky to have experienced bull-shit of this magnitude twice before.
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