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Edited By Raven10

@bisonhero: I think good is relative here. Techland has done some truly awful games as well as some average to good games. The good ones would probably be Chrome, Call of Juarez Bound in Blood, and maybe Dead Island. Can't say I've ever honestly enjoyed a Techland game. But maybe they'll do something right one day.

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Posted By BisonHero

I'm hoping it's Techland's A-team working on this and that Riptide's unfortunate existence can be solely put on the B-team...I hope!

Does Techland have an A-team? I've heard the Giant Bomb guys say that the quality of Techland stuff is all over the place, as if some is good and some is bad. But seriously, what is their good stuff?

The earlier Call of Juarez games were decent, I guess. And while they certainly threw time and money at Dead Island, it still seemed like the kind of amateurish open world game that a B-team would come up with. Techland still seems like a studio full of B-teams.

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Posted By Deranged

@humanity said:

If anything try buying Dragons Dogma: Dark Arisen. Not only does it campaign the full original game but also a new area full of new items and enemies - AND it's only about $40 new!

Thanks duder! I'll definitely give it a shot! Much appreciated! :)

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Edited By kchark

Woo woo, Hexen III!

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Edited By Largo6661

hey you guys we spent a lot of money developing that engine, would be super cool if you could use it for the next game

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Edited By Humanity

@mcderby4: If anything try buying Dragons Dogma: Dark Arisen. Not only does it campaign the full original game but also a new area full of new items and enemies - AND it's only about $40 new!

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Edited By Foggen

At first I thought it said "Hellrad", which would have been pretty great.

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Edited By heremy8

I was actually going into this not thinking I would be impressed.....but I'm IMPRESSED!!! Maybe it is their "A" team working on it and hopefully have learned from the first game. Oh how I hope it's 4 player co-op too!

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Posted By RipTheVeins

I was actually kind of impressed with this.

I really like the little touches, like countering someone's sword strike and batting it away and people actually ducking under your sword when you swing. It seems like I never see that in first person combat and it usually ends up just being two people running into each other swinging wildly like in Skyrim's melee combat.

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Edited By Deranged

@humanity said:

You could just play Dragon's Dogma if you're looking for that sort of thing. Completely underrated and probably does just about everything better than Skyrim.

Cool! I'll give it a shot!

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Edited By ptys

Looks next gen. to me!

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Edited By civid

Looks like Dark Messiah, which is a huge plus in my book. As long as you can kick dudes off of ledges I'm in!

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Posted By Andy_117

Skellingtons! :D

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Posted By Ihsahn

This looks much better than Dead Island

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Posted By Glots

Dark Messiah was the first thing to pop into my mind, wouldn't mind more of that type-y.

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Edited By probablytuna

Still not as bad as Warface.

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Posted By Ghost_Cat

Is this Hexen and Painkiller?

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Edited By paulunga

Hellraid London?

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Edited By buzz_clik

So this what happens when you mix Hexen and Dead Island together.

My thoughts precisely.

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Edited By thainatos

Needs more boot.

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Edited By MisterSedition

TOTALLY Looks like Hexen! Not necessarily a bad thing...

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Edited By PhantomGardener

Yeah this really looks like Dead Island set in Medieval times.

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Posted By chilipeppersman

straight to the gameplay. i like it!

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Posted By Rasgueado

Sold.

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Posted By MeatSim

This is what Jeff's "The Raid" in Japan is going to be like right?

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Posted By maxB

This looks kinda awesome. Probably won't be!

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Posted By xxmagiksxx

Looks close enough to dark messiah that I'm likely in.

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Posted By SpottyMaurice

Rest in peace Project Offset.

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Posted By Coreus

Oh hey look, it's Witchhaven.

Techland is a trademark of Techland.

Haha yeah, I saw and thought exactly of that.

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Edited By ChernobylCow

Looks like the kinda game that doesn't get made anymore. Hexen sounds about right. I hope the classes are more fun and interesting than in Dead Island.

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Posted By Hellequin

Techland is a trademark of Techland.

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Posted By GaspoweR

@fisk0 said:

@gramblor said:

Why do videos look like utter trash on this website? Do I have to have a paid subscription to watch videos that don't look like pixelated garbage?

Funny enough, the best viewing alternative subscribers get is the ability to see the Youtube versions of the videos. No idea why that's hidden from regular users on the site since there's nothing stopping them from going to the TheRealGiantBomb channel on Youtube and watching them there.

Then we get the option to directly download the videos and watch them in VLC, which is of course the best video quality option, but adds a bit too many steps than it's worth for most videos.

Actually Alexis did point out why the Youtube option is subscriber-only for now since the redesign. Here's the quote from this stickied post:

Youtube and why is it a member only feature?

Members also have the option to use the youtube player for our original content. This is a member only feature since we can't display preroll ads on Youtube. Trailers (which would be marked as duplicate content) and locked premium videos are not available on Youtube.

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Posted By Humanity

@humanity said:

@mcderby4 said:

@willza92 said:

An Elder Scrolls like game that actually gets the combat right doesn't sound terrible

I'm down for that.

You could just play Dragon's Dogma if you're looking for that sort of thing. Completely underrated and probably does just about everything better than Skyrim.

Not really. DD'S fighting system is awesome the rest is boring and uninteresting. Skyrim with that fighting system would be amazing.

The fighting system is obviously the highlight. The class and skill system itself is way more interesting promoting experimentation rather than locking you into one path for the next 50 hours. The pawn system is better than the follower system in Skyrim which is almost non existent In DD you get to choose their class, their skills and their behaviors and they learn from enemy encounters to exploit weaknesses in the future.

While the graphics are the one thing that is worse I'd say the world is way more interesting than Skyrim. There are chests with actual loot scattered all over the world. You never go into a dungeon and find a chest with 5 gold pieces and a turnip - there is always something of worth to be found. The monsters are varied and way more fun to fight but that can be chalked up to a better fighting system. The story and quests are more interesting. The main questline in Skyrim is laughably bad apart from maybe that one fight near the end and I didn't encounter many quests that were generally interesting.

Dragons Dogma has some really interesting quests that go deeper than just bring item A to location B. There is one quests that has you escort a young girl around town and depending on how well you do your reward differs greatly. Bumping into her will get you negative points as well as straying or leaving her behind - but all of this is happening in the background without the players knowledge. There was another quest that has you head towards a bandit camp ran by a male hating female leader - if your main character and all your pawns are female you will get a chance to talk to her and get more information, but if you have males in your party you'll have to fight them.

Dungeon layout is better as they are all unique and don't feel like someone re-arranged tiles from another dungeon to make the one you're currently in. Skyrims many caves all felt incredibly one note, not to mention the fact that you were constantly fighting Draugir or Dwemer.

It literally does everything that Skyrim did but with more nuance and complexity. It might not be as shiny, but unlike what Patrick said on the Bombcast, there is usually a lot more going on when you climb a mountain in DD as opposed to when you do so in Skyrim - the difference being that in DD there will probably be something there, unlike the barren wasteland that was Skyrims open world.

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Posted By Abendlaender

@humanity said:

@mcderby4 said:

@willza92 said:

An Elder Scrolls like game that actually gets the combat right doesn't sound terrible

I'm down for that.

You could just play Dragon's Dogma if you're looking for that sort of thing. Completely underrated and probably does just about everything better than Skyrim.

Not really. DD'S fighting system is awesome the rest is boring and uninteresting. Skyrim with that fighting system would be amazing.

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Edited By koolaid

Hexen + dead island?

Yes Please.

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Edited By Humanity

@mcderby4 said:

@willza92 said:

An Elder Scrolls like game that actually gets the combat right doesn't sound terrible

I'm down for that.

You could just play Dragon's Dogma if you're looking for that sort of thing. Completely underrated and probably does just about everything better than Skyrim.

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Edited By CrispyT68

It looks like they toned down Painkiller and put it out on the Dead Island engine. Does it have Hell Trucks?

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Posted By Deranged

@willza92 said:

An Elder Scrolls like game that actually gets the combat right doesn't sound terrible

I'm down for that.

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Edited By fisk0

@bgrngod said:

Straight up screaming Heretic. All that looking up and down going on.

If this game doesn't actually have any raids that take place in hell, then they've seriously fucked up.

This turning out well might be too much to hope for, but I'm happy someone is taking a stab at making a new Heretic or Hexen, as it seems neither Id or Raven are interested or capable right now.

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Posted By fisk0

@gramblor said:

Why do videos look like utter trash on this website? Do I have to have a paid subscription to watch videos that don't look like pixelated garbage?

Funny enough, the best viewing alternative subscribers get is the ability to see the Youtube versions of the videos. No idea why that's hidden from regular users on the site since there's nothing stopping them from going to the TheRealGiantBomb channel on Youtube and watching them there.

Then we get the option to directly download the videos and watch them in VLC, which is of course the best video quality option, but adds a bit too many steps than it's worth for most videos.

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Edited By sfighter21

....Why was there a Triforce?? *GASP* Is the Master Sword behind that door!!?!?!?

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Edited By Bgrngod

Straight up screaming Heretic. All that looking up and down going on.

If this game doesn't actually have any raids that take place in hell, then they've seriously fucked up.

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Posted By gramblor

Why do videos look like utter trash on this website? Do I have to have a paid subscription to watch videos that don't look like pixelated garbage?

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Posted By paulwade1984

Hellraid... souls

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Posted By RupertTheBear

So this what happens when you mix Hexen and Dead Island together.

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Posted By Solidsnak

I thought that said Hellrad at first

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Edited By Elwoodan

and Jeff was worried that all the B-tier game developers were going away :p apparently nothings gonna stop techland.

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Posted By BasketSnake

The overpriced and low-quality "sequel" will be called Helltide.

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Posted By sparky_buzzsaw

I hope this is going to be good. I like the combat in Dead Island and if they diversify this combat enough without making it shit this game would be much better. I really don't care for the story as long as hacking people into pieces is fun.

This sums up my feelings pretty well. I'm also a shameless loot junkie, and what I'm seeing from that video looks pretty neat. I'm all for a swords-and-sorcery styled Dead Island, and that's exactly what this looks like.

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