Meet Assassin's Creed Syndicate's Historical Figure Squad

That is kapital indeed.

I want to hear Austin's thoughts on this development

The 20th century saw 100 million people murdered by their own governments in an attempt to make Karl Marx's vision for the future a reality. I hope the game handles him appropriately.

Too bad it's an Assassin's creed game or else these characters and history might actually be portrayed interestingly. Instead Charles Darwin will have you run around on a fetch quest to tear down satirical pictures of himself. And Graham Bell gives you electric shocking balls to knock guys out.

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Also- please tell me Darwin isn't going to give you a poster ripping mission

This narration is kind of crap.

...And this kind of feels Forrest-Gumpy

This is really fucking weird.

Just like in AC3, it's really fucking weird right? Like, what?

Charles Dickens and Charles Darwin are in the pre order DLC and it astounds me that it's not called the Chuck D pack.

They should also just throw Chuck D in there too.

lol

@qawsed: here here! well said.

Charles Darwin wants you to kill 27 men.

Karl Marx in AC will be dire but the amount of ire it will provoke from pissbabies is prob worth it gg Ubi

This is far more ridiculous than I anticipated.

It's hysterically stupid.

YO, that would be SICKKK

@darek006 said:

That'd be an interesting episode. Maybe he'll bring it up when he interviews Brock next week after Raw.

Well this is just dumb on a whole new level

That's some Dan Ryckert level of history knowledge. Good job.

@qawsed: I would rather pin that on the governments themselves instead of slanting someone's personality towards what their ideas got twisted into after death. If governments implementing someone's ideas in horrible ways made him an asshole, then Jesus would've been a jerk.

nope.

One Ubisoft employee watched The Prestige years ago and said "You know what Assassin's Creed needs? That Nikola Tesla cameo, but in EVERY SINGLE GAME!"

Considering how badly misrepresented the historical figures are in this franchise, I just don't know who these cameos are for. Historical buffs are going to be upset, and the rest of people won't know enough about them to care. They're pretty much glorified quest givers winking and nudging you constantly and giving you the digest version of their achievements.

At some point it was fun in a "Hey, it's that guy" way, but they have been playing the same card since the second game with VERY little variation to the formula. It's just "go to Darwin's house, hear him give you some bullet points on evolution, kill some dudes for him and the move on to Marx. Repeat."

Let's just skip the comparison of a real historical person with a fictional one, but the Bible Jesus came with a sword, and fought dragons, which is cool, but he was kinda a jerk, at least in the modern context.

This is great. I want every NPC in these games to be a super weird representation of a real historical figure.

I want a David Bowie as Nikola Tesla game from Platinum.

This insane mishmash of historical figures actually makes me way more interested in this game. It's like a historical fan fiction, looks fun in an absurd way.

@prokofjev: Gitaroo Man sequel? Fund it.

Soundtrack by U2.

Omg, this looks astoundingly terrible and hamfisted. Just, wow.

@spiderjerusalem: I do like to look up the Wikipedia pages for some of the historical figures in the Assassin's Creed games just for some background and because that interest me.

But yeah I'm never going to think "this historical figure is accurately represented."

That Darwin voice is all wrong.

@qawsed: To blame Karl Marx for the actions of communist Russia is like blaming Henry Ford for sweat shops or Jesus for the KKK. Karl Marx was an economics nerd... Stalin is responsible for millions of deaths.

Oh dear god no.

@mbdoeden said:

AC3 was really sloppy with the historical characterizations and dialogue. The only one that worked for me was Ben Franklin, and he was in the game for all of 5 minutes with no purpose other than to be a quote machine. I like the idea, but the execution has to be spot on or else the historical touchstones feel shoehorned and inauthentic.

Kool. Looks corny as hell, but hey if the mission design is matured from Unity this game could be pretty good.

This would be cool, if it weren't an Assassin's Creed game.

You're in luck. There's an achievement for killing 100 million people!

@qawsed: To be fair, the same happened with Darwin and the whole eugenics/"survival of the fittest" misinterpretation...

I passed on Unity, so I have higher hopes for this. Liking what I've seen so far. Certainly some potential historically.

Im literally fucking crying with laughter. This shits hilarious. This is literally one of the dumbest things i've seen. This might be the first Assassins Creed game i actually play. Also voice acting sounds like shit and i want to punch the protagonist in the throat. 2015....a good year for video games.

Karl Marx was not a friendly guy and really didn't bother to actively do anything for the workers at the time, like hiring an assassin guild to fight the Capitalist Templar Dogs. But it's still funny to see him in all his blockbuster video-game 3D glory. I bet the artists who made his character model were paid a fair wage and not taken advantage of at all by friendly ubisoft! (The last line was sarcasm)

That seems unnecessarily harsh on Dan. This is way below that level.

Holding Marx responsible for the crimes of Stalin & Mao & Hoxha & Pot makes as much sense as holding Adam Smith responsible for the crimes committed by capitalists throughout history, or Rousseau for the French Revolution & the bloodshed that followed. He was a philosopher, an economist & basically one of the creators of the field of sociology, not the leader of a genocidal regime. Marx I bet the OP has read barely a page of Marx, if that. If we use his logic then where does it stop? Do we go back to Hegel, whose ideas influenced a young Karl Marx? And then his predecessors in the German idealist movement, going back to Kant, one of the most influential names in modern western philosophy? And so on, right the way back to Socrates. It's absurd.

Just as the son cannot be held responsible for the sins of the father, so the father cannot be accountable for the sins of the son. Marx's ideas influenced lots of people who didn't lead genocidal regimes, there'd be no modern progressive social democracy without Marxism for starters.

@forkboy: Hey, the Greeks executed Socrates. They knew what he'd start.

I mean last week's trailer revealed that it had a Saber-toothed cat, so Karl Marx isn't really reaching.

Well that's the great lesson of history, isn't it? Person A does a thing, and Person B quietly perverts it in order to better suit Person B's personal goals. I don't think it's fair to put Stalinist Russia (along with all the other delightfully cruel communist despots from the 20th century) on Marx's karmic tab, because how his work was perverted is no different to how anything else gets perverted. People who want power will use anything they can, and twist anything they can, to get it.

I mean really, if we're going to hate on Marx for something, it should be for his naivety in the belief that his philosophy could actually work in the real world. Sounds like a fifth grader who thinks we can achieve world peace "if we just wished really hard for it."

Keep fighting the good fight, clearly this guy was a genius despite everything his influenced touched turning to shit. Defending the ideology of mass-murderers is always a good look.

wow this trailer is really dumb

@oldirtybearon: Great call on Marx. My take isn't that his theory was wrong, just the margins. He was under the impression that the honest working class was 90% of the population and the exploitative ego driven class was 10%. Turns out that isn't exactly how that math works out.

Again, that's a great understanding of history and ideologies. Making grand claims based on nothing is always a good look.

Also, Lenin's vision (Or really Stalins) was the one that took all the killing to make. Marx just said "Hey, pure-capitalism is inherently flawed and we should do something about it." But didn't specify how to go about doing that other than saying that the worker's would share the means of production and whatnot.

The Soviet Union was never truly marxist anyways. Marx is to the USSR what NIetzche was to Nazi Germany, he inspired them and they claimed lineage from him, but it was Russians and the Germans of the 20th century who perverted what was supposed to be a good thing for almost everyone. Marx was long dead by the time famines and purges started happening in the Russia.