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Posted By hassun

A big space laser? Is this a Superhero comic book film?

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Posted By garwalk

Deltron 3030 references.. I see you Jeff. Good shit.

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Posted By gearsman

Sup dude ranches

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Posted By Basanakin

This QL had so much hype build-up for me after the podcast xD

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Posted By DasaKamov

What the frell? Did theOG Defiance muh-morpuguh (and associated See-Fee channel program) have enough of a following to warrant a remaster?

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Edited By RiotControl

I'll be honest, I totally enjoyed this game when it came out. It does a lot of what today's console-centric "MMO-lite" games do, but it did it last gen.

It's a standard third-person shooter in MMO trappings, so it's not special in any way, but I thought it was pretty average at everything it did do. I definitely enjoyed it more than I ever did Destiny or The Division. The PvP was not very balanced, though. It also had a serious lack of the type of end-game content that keeps more serious players around. I couldn't say how well it did for more casual players because I dipped out soon after hitting the max level and PvPing for a bit.

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Posted By Kordesh

No. Stop. Do Not.

Don't trust or expect anything operated by Trion Worlds to do anything beyond finding innovative new ways to separate you from your money. This "remaster", in itself, is just a way to relaunch a dead game (that they had already started adding f2p elements to when it was paid) on console and see what they can squeeze out without actually having to do much, if any, additional work to the existing game/assets.

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Edited By fisk0

@riotcontrol said:

I'll be honest, I totally enjoyed this game when it came out. It does a lot of what today's console-centric "MMO-lite" games do, but it did it last gen.

It's a standard third-person shooter in MMO trappings, so it's not special in any way, but I thought it was pretty average at everything it did do. I definitely enjoyed it more than I ever did Destiny or The Division. The PvP was not very balanced, though. It also had a serious lack of the type of end-game content that keeps more serious players around. I couldn't say how well it did for more casual players because I dipped out soon after hitting the max level and PvPing for a bit.

Yeah, I actually really liked the launch version of the original back in 2013, it pretty much was what I wanted Destiny to be. I especially liked how they didn't go for the "the numbers just go up" thing that plagues most of these games and just result in a ridiculous damage inflation a few years down the line - in the launch version of Defiance the loot was almost entirely about horizontal progression, random drops would have differences in fire rates and reload times and such and uncommon or rare drops would have more mod slots and some kind of ability modifier (like reloads part of the magazine or boosts your shields on a kill), but the base damage output would largely be the same as you started as in the late game (you'd level up your gun skills per type which would give you a percent more damage every few kills too, and you could equip character abilities that increased your explosive or projectile damage though).

Sadly they changed a lot of the mechanics in time for them switching to a free to play model around 2015, including changing to a generic vertical loot system, and Defiance 2050 doesn't address any of that. :(

Or well, they changed back to cooldown based grenades, which the launch version had, but which they changed when it went free to play.

Since they could change it without relaunching the game back then, I still don't understand why this is a separate thing.

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Posted By rubley

This game looks like what would happen if dog shit could take a shit

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Posted By Excitable_Misunderstood_Genius

we were always going back

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Posted By Capstan

This game seems broken; lock, shtako, and barrel.

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Posted By morningcoffee

The big thing that the jawas are in is called a sandcrawler.

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Posted By AngryForrestt

oh i love the deltorn 3030 references!

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Posted By Windir2112

@kordesh: Yep. These devs are the worst of the worst and should be supported in no way.

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Posted By MerxWorx01

I don't have many good memories of playing this game except that my edition of the game came with a code to summon a muscle car out of thin air. It drove like shit but you can run over and drive through packs of monsters with a satisfying crash. Unfortunately kills via car didn't count as defeating an enemy but it was fun driving around a massive event bosses.

The sky turning red while fifty or so players are focus firing on some giant spider robot while you're in the middle doing donuts, slamming through hordes of aliens.

It should have been a good game but the presentation and quests were forgettable.

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Edited By Tary1966

Jeff always plays cookie cutter soilder dude in games so i wonder if that helps make games seem meh to him. In mass effect he does cover shooting soilder which makes the game lose all its specialty. Cant hate thou since i sometimes rpg my way into the recover health when not damaged quick reload spam attacks from far character. Whatever keeps your fun i guess. That said my enjoyment doubles if i find im bored of a game and realize i can play it in funnier or different ways.

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Posted By astrophyle

I thought the show was also not amazing, but decent and easy to burn through a season in a couple of days.

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Posted By Tactless

Fuck yeah deltron

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Posted By ariaster

This game totally nailed that MMO-lite by way of SyFy series vibe, for all the positives and negatives that implies. It was a solid C thing, that was fun to fire up on a late night, and blow shit up.

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Edited By CornBREDX

Interesting. I used to play this, but I ran out of stuff to do so I stopped years ago now. It was an ok podcast game before The Division existed. I heard the changes they made to this ruined the game somehow so hopefully this quick look is informative... or something.

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Posted By Fezrock

I've been trying to get back into Warframe after a couple years away, but its so damn opaque about everything that I'm really bouncing off it. I wouldn't mind a different F2P (or paid) grindy third-person shooter to play as a podcast game, but I don't think it'll be this.

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Posted By CrazyBagMan

@tary1966: I can't really imagine how else standing in place and shooting the weak spot could be any more engaging...? Jeff has said he liked this game, it's just a bad "remaster".

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Posted By l3reak

wow that deltron ref, love it. Guess I do love you jeff,.

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Posted By AMDman

Oh boy, this looks like a 360 game. An early gen, BAD 360 game...

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Posted By Drachmalius

This seems aggressively mediocre

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Posted By ripelivejam

Expanse game when

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Posted By Reign409

@fezrock: WoW is pretty much this game for me. Random PVP while paying basically no attention.

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Posted By jaycrockett

Played this in 2013 and really liked it. I'll probably check it out for nostalgia's sake. Hard to recommend when The Division is out there, though. I guess if you are broke it's worth a look.

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Posted By Bezerker85

Not sure how it is today but all day yesterday the PS4 NA Servers were basically hitching for 10 seconds every 13 seconds.

It turned the game into almost a survival horror game as the hitches would cause the enemy to run in place and then next thin you know there's just a big explosion on the screen and you're surrounded or killed by enemies

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Posted By DarkbeatDK

I think there is melee weapons in there. They showed one in the trailer at least. Maybe its a power for one of the premium classes?

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Posted By longevitous

This brings back memories. I played through Defiance twice when it came out, maxing out my character. It wasn't anything special and this Quick Look is pretty much how I remember it, gameplay-wise. The whole public event mechanic and teaming up with randos just does something for me that I enjoy.

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Posted By MachoFantastico

Looks like a below-par early Xbox 360 game, why bother even re-releasing this? Especially considering how competitive the F2P market is.

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Posted By bugbarbecue

this reminds me of Tabula Rasa, an 11 year old game that failed miserably.

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Posted By dtowndrew

3030, way past the millennium. 2050, also way past the millennium.

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Posted By Mayor_McCheese

Jeff is just filling the void that Marvel Heroes left as it was the perfect turn your brain off/podcast game. I can't blame the guy.

Also Trion used to be good when Rift first came out and had a lot of promise. What a shame.

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Posted By DasaKamov

@bugbarbecue: I believe you mean "Tabula Rasa, an 11 year old game that had some cool ideas in an era when EVERY MMO wanted to be 'the next Warcraft' but was probably too ambitious and ahead of its time to succeed."

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Posted By WesleyWyndam

Man, I just tried to play this on PS4 and shut it off after a few minutes. Seems they are having some server issues? Multiple times while trying to create a character, it couldn't contact servers. And when I actually "played" it, it was so laggy that I couldn't stay alive because I couldn't attack the enemies teleporting all over.

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Edited By Onemanarmyy

Wait, where's Larry?! Oh cool, there's Larry!

I just watched the original quicklook and grenades were already on a cooldown.

That bug has some hideous maws.

Between this & New Gundam Breaker, 2018 seems to be the best time to be playing games that freeze up.

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Edited By hassun

Boy this looks bland.

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Posted By FlashFlood_29

Does anyone know what the Star Wars thing Ben was talking about if not the Sarlacc Pit?

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Posted By DasaKamov

I just watched the original quicklook and grenades were already on a cooldown.

Someone else on this board mentioned that the devs removed the "Grenade Cooldown" and replaced it with "Grenades-as-Expendable-Items" when Defiance went F2P, but the Cooldown was re-added when this version was released.

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Edited By entireties

jeff this seems bad

also an faction of evil looters called "rioters"... thats the good shit

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Posted By bathala

My video keeps lagging

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Posted By Ch0p

"Hellbugs"

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Posted By auron1014

Does anyone know what the Star Wars thing Ben was talking about if not the Sarlacc Pit?

I was wondering about that too. There's the big sand crawler Jawa vehicle, but I don't remember a lava monster in there

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Posted By Avioto

"Bug and chug"

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Posted By Luchalma

Literally the only thing I remember from the original release is "shtako", and how stupid that is.

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Posted By andrewf87462

This just looks like the same game I played 5 years ago......

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Posted By ConVox

You know, this makes me bummed that Firefall died but this survived. Neither were fantastic, but Firefall was far more visually interesting.

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