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Posted By Nasar7

Re-watched this to judge if Brad's claim that graphics in these games have plateaued. I strongly disagree, this looks like total ass now compared to Forza 5.

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Posted By ThatIndianGuy7116

@AtonGondim: Ok, a few things

1. They are, in a way, ironically named quick looks. Yeah, they are far from being "quick", that's the point. They used to be about 10-15 minutes long but you really can't get in everything you want to say about the game in that amount of time. Some people want to see what menu navigation looks like and how loading screens are.

2. We like to hear their "boring/shallow/useless" commentary. It's a game play video, NOT a review. If you want to see a review of the game, read the review on the wiki page that is right on this site. I know this sounds crazy but, some people actually like to watch game play commentary videos where the guy talking is talking non-stop about the game. THAT sometimes gets boring and useless and all those things you just said

3. Why are you even on this site if you didn't like this quick look? I could understand it if you heard about this site and checked it out and didn't like it. Fine, that's fair. But even then, why spend all that time trying to write a harsh ass comment?

And maybe I'm being a bit harsh here. but you need to understand that Giant bomb isn't just like every other gaming website out there who takes gaming way too seriously.They like to have fun with games and have fun when they review the games. Go to ign or something if you want serious game reviews, this site isn't about being the most serious.

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Posted By cloutier2012

@thebigJ_A: Really delayed response: The first track that Jeff raced is Infineon, which is actually a NASCAR track (ironic, right?) Anyway, yeah, I agree, I can't understand why people would watch that sort of race in person. They're great to watch televised though

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Edited By cruxking

Somehow i managed to not play any of the previous forzas' despite being a avid racing game fan. and i gotta say i absolutely love this game. Some of my friends who have never liked a racing game enjoyed it when i showed it to them. and that's saying something considering they didn't like dirt2 or 3.

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Posted By WinterSnowblind

@AtonGondim: The whole point is that it's a quick look of the game. It's not a review, it's not a preview, it's meant to give you an idea of what the game is actually like, and that can't really be done in 10-15 minutes (most of the time). And that's great, because there's no other sites that do anything like this.

Focusing more on specific qualities would turn it into a preview, which is a completely different feature.. and hey, the best parts of the videos are usually just the staff bantering.

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Posted By Ghostiet
@AtonGondim said:

Alright, alright... After months reading reviews and watching your "Quick looks", there are a few things to be said:

- These videos aren't quick. Either make them shorter or change it's name.

- In fact, making them shorter wouldn't hurt one bit. Just take away all useless footage (like whole minutes staring at the same menu screen doing absolutely nothing) and spare us all of shallow/pointless/useless/boring commentary. I.e. we don't need to know you like inside cameras because you are a FPS addict. We want to know about the game.

- FOCUS, goddam it! You're reviewing a game here. Pros and cons should be a nice start.

- Demonstrate qualities and defects of the games. Things that may attract or repel gamers.

- Edit your videos. One huge play is boring and make all other tips I gave you almost useless.

- In your edition, do different things. Using always the same guns/cars/levels is as tedious as it can be.

I know I'm being cruel. Maybe I wouldn't if you weren't getting paid to do this. But I'm sure I wouldn't be complaining if you did this right. Or, at least, better.

Oh yeah, almost forgot: crop all loading screens. Unless they actually add something up to the game review (long load times, repetitive, fun, etc.), there's no point showing them.

Wow, I haven't seen someone miss the point so much since everything in the first 40 years of the XX century.


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Posted By macker33

Best forza yet

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Posted By SpikeDelight

@AtonGondim: These aren't reviews. They're about showing a candid view of every aspect of the game. If it takes 5 whole minutes to upload your photos, they're making this video to warn you about that before going in. That's the kind of thing that makes Quick Looks so great, actually.

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Posted By Radar

I never pictured Jeff as a Mustang person. I could see him driving a beat up Toyota Corolla or a Honda Civic but a pony car?

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Posted By J_Rad

@AtonGondim: Dude, you're missing the point.

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Edited By AtonGondim

Alright, alright... After months reading reviews and watching your "Quick looks", there are a few things to be said:

- These videos aren't quick. Either make them shorter or change it's name.

- In fact, making them shorter wouldn't hurt one bit. Just take away all useless footage (like whole minutes staring at the same menu screen doing absolutely nothing) and spare us all of shallow/pointless/useless/boring commentary. I.e. we don't need to know you like inside cameras because you are a FPS addict. We want to know about the game.

- FOCUS, goddam it! You're reviewing a game here. Pros and cons should be a nice start.

- Demonstrate qualities and defects of the games. Things that may attract or repel gamers.

- Edit your videos. One huge play is boring and make all other tips I gave you almost useless.

- In your edition, do different things. Using always the same guns/cars/levels is as tedious as it can be.

I know I'm being cruel. Maybe I wouldn't if you weren't getting paid to do this. But I'm sure I wouldn't be complaining if you did this right. Or, at least, better.

Oh yeah, almost forgot: crop all loading screens. Unless they actually add something up to the game review (long load times, repetitive, fun, etc.), there's no point showing them.

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Posted By Ronald

As someone with a newer model Mustang and is 6'2" I have plenty of room in the car. The pre-06 Mustangs were kind of cramped. But Challengers are nice too. And then Jeff can pretend to be LL Cool J on the ride to and from work every day.

And why did Jeff start playing Crazy Taxi near the end of this?

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Posted By Nizzleworth

As someone who drives a '94 BMW; HELL YEAH, BOXY BEAMERS.

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Posted By doobymoo

@starfurydysan said:

HEY....nothing wrong with a Honda Fit :(

High fives! I have one (well the Euro one aka Jazz) :/ I'm also not really into cars though.

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Edited By Vortextk

Man people are taking this fucking personally.

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Edited By Henrikhoe

jeff should not be playing forza on easy, and with racing line

its just makes it boring, and thats why it only got 4 stars. with racing line, you are just a robot braking when it tells you and stuff, and jeff actually brags about winning when he has steering assist and braking assist on.

Jeff, you are almost doing nothing

No challenge, wtf is this.

Also the racing line is pure garbage, because you over break each turn, you can go way faster in those turns.

worthless jeff

if you are going to comment if its a big upgrade, at least test the new sim mode, well there are better reviews out there, like game trailers one etc... really disappointed by this one jeff. Stick to shooters. Your approach to forza with all assists on, easy ai, and racing line is just dumb for a guy who played games for 20+ years.

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Posted By DMack

I'm not too impressed by the damage effects... I'm not a Forza player, and I crash a lot when I do play racing games :P

At the 20min mark, that section of track is used as the test track for PGR3, I'd like to see a comparison of those famous tracks in all the different racing games that they appear in.

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Edited By Godlyawesomeguy

I wonder how someone would play if they drank before starting the game.

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Posted By JamesM

I presume the reason Top Gear is in both Forza and GT is that, as a publicly funded organization, there are rules regarding the BBC showing preference for one commercial product over another. I'm not sure they'd be legally allowed to enter into any sort of exclusive deal of that nature. I could be wrong, though.

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Posted By Trucker_Sean

I'm gonna buy a wheel for this! Come on @Vinny, let's do it!

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Posted By capt_ventris

What is the point of having Aussie V8's without Bathurst?

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Posted By Brendan

@Aas said:

@VoshiNova said:

Jeff just effectively offended me. >_<

98 Honda Civic 4 LIFE, 4 LIFE YA HEAR!?

Civic owners, next clan I make is named "Civic Duty," and jeff, you are NOT invited. :p

Yeeeeeeeeeeah

You must all be Italian.

That's racist.

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Posted By oasisbeyond

Forza 4 = to make people buy Kinect. Nothing in the gameplay as changed much. It's all the lame Kinect, it's so dull.

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Posted By starfurydysan

HEY....nothing wrong with a Honda Fit :(

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Posted By shadow961

@gunslingerNZ said:

@vikingm03 said:

This was hard to watch. Jeff clearly should have passed this quick look on to someone else, someone who doesnt race with stability assists so they can actually describe the HUGE physics differences between forza 3 and 4. Jeff, forza 3 and 4 feel the same for you because you have the assists on. Im not saying its wrong to play with assists off, just that for a quick look maybe someone who is more experienced should show the game off?

Yeah I sort of hope Dave writes the review for this one.

look its the best racing sim on the planet, does he really need to test out the simulations to know that?

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Posted By big_jon

@katanalauncher said:

LMAO Forza a best racing sim on the planet?

I could barely call it a racing sim.

Try playing iracing or rfactor and come back and tell me Forza is the best racing sim.

And here's the cliche racing game snob.

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Posted By TwistedGamer

heyyyy, im looking to get a Challenger too! i <3 Jeff now :p

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Posted By katanalauncher

LMAO Forza a best racing sim on the planet?

I could barely call it a racing sim.

Try playing iracing or rfactor and come back and tell me Forza is the best racing sim.

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Edited By fuchikoma

I had some real problems with the demo. The buttons are all screwed up, so I'd rewind when I wanted to look behind me, the units were locked into imperial, so as a non-American it was all gobbledygook (the outside temperature could have been arctic or boiling... no idea) and there was no way to display car damage or tire wear. There was also an XP popup on the left every time I did something in a race, which was really distracting. I hope this is just a really stupid demo restriction not being able to toggle all this. I felt like I was being actively discouraged from playing.

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Edited By dezvous

Watching this video made me realize a couple of things. Damn, despite all the graphical issues with GT5 (shadows/smoke) it still looks a thousand times better than this game. That being said, it did take them forever to make GT5. The other thing I realized was, I don't think either GT5 or Forza do it for me anymore. I love car racing but I think the Simulation racer needs something new. Dirt and a new Grid would have me much more excited at this point. Grid was a fantastic looking game too, especially that smoke.

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Posted By DukesT3

@Ketchupp said:

Honda Civics are not only for girls, but asians as well.

Oh, man racist!

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Posted By DANW547

Elegent, fast and efficient menu's! See that Polyphony Digital?? Spend your next 5 year developement cycle figuring out how to do that.

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Posted By yukoasho

@Jeff - Why would you get rid of your mustang? It'd probably be cheaper to get parts swapped out and get it painted white.

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Posted By Spongetwan

I might have to get this!!! I do love Forza

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Posted By badmanelite

I'll pass on this pretty much the same as 3, that game started to draggg

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Posted By delta_ass

@TheHBK said:

@LemonJoose said:

Jeff, you should get a new Mustang. The Challenger looks great, but the interior is kind of cheap and plasticky looking (almost too retro). I am a fairly heavy guy too and I don't find my Mustang to be too cramped. The Camaro was definitely way too cramped inside and had all kinds of bad visibility issues.

This. And in terms of power, the Challenger is great. It sounds impressive with the 6.2 L Hemi, but it is heavy so not as good as what the Challenger and Mustang offer.

The fact that Jeff is willing to go to 40k for a car, makes me think he must make a shit load of money for running this site. Thinking about the insurance and the gas guzzler tax and the amount of gas it will use. I bought my 2008 V8 mustang new for 29k and thought it was a big payment to swallow. The insurance was harder.

Paying for a lifetime subscription to Star Trek Online didn't tip you off?

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Posted By jay35

31:42 is the funniest thing i've heard all night. Heihachi + slammed + bass + drifting. Good grief, man! :)

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Posted By stallion74

Best Driving Sim on the Planet? wow that was an impressive statement !!!

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Posted By TheHBK

@LemonJoose said:

Jeff, you should get a new Mustang. The Challenger looks great, but the interior is kind of cheap and plasticky looking (almost too retro). I am a fairly heavy guy too and I don't find my Mustang to be too cramped. The Camaro was definitely way too cramped inside and had all kinds of bad visibility issues.

This. And in terms of power, the Challenger is great. It sounds impressive with the 6.2 L Hemi, but it is heavy so not as good as what the Challenger and Mustang offer.

The fact that Jeff is willing to go to 40k for a car, makes me think he must make a shit load of money for running this site. Thinking about the insurance and the gas guzzler tax and the amount of gas it will use. I bought my 2008 V8 mustang new for 29k and thought it was a big payment to swallow. The insurance was harder.

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Posted By Aas

@VoshiNova said:

Jeff just effectively offended me. >_<

98 Honda Civic 4 LIFE, 4 LIFE YA HEAR!?

Civic owners, next clan I make is named "Civic Duty," and jeff, you are NOT invited. :p

Yeeeeeeeeeeah

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Posted By gunslingerNZ

@vikingm03 said:

This was hard to watch. Jeff clearly should have passed this quick look on to someone else, someone who doesnt race with stability assists so they can actually describe the HUGE physics differences between forza 3 and 4. Jeff, forza 3 and 4 feel the same for you because you have the assists on. Im not saying its wrong to play with assists off, just that for a quick look maybe someone who is more experienced should show the game off?

Yeah I sort of hope Dave writes the review for this one.

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Posted By HerbieBug

Shassee.

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Posted By RandomInternetUser

A Challenger is my dream car. They are so, so beautiful.

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Posted By HerbieBug

If I can't drive my totally sweet 2003 Toyota Echo, WITH the steel rims and the winter tires for that extra performance BOOST, I don't wanna play. :p

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Posted By codemorebetter

This was hard to watch. Jeff clearly should have passed this quick look on to someone else, someone who doesnt race with stability assists so they can actually describe the HUGE physics differences between forza 3 and 4. Jeff, forza 3 and 4 feel the same for you because you have the assists on. Im not saying its wrong to play with assists off, just that for a quick look maybe someone who is more experienced should show the game off?

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Posted By Jazz_Lafayette

Dave's driving fantasy is now my driving fantasy.

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Posted By LemonJoose

@GTFan712 said:

I stopped watching at "I don't think BMWs are cool anymore."

Just kidding.

Jeff's right. BMWs are not cool anymore. Too many people just drive them as a luxury status symbol rather than because they appreciate the performance. They're not bad cars, it's just that most people who drive them are a-holes.

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Posted By jay35

Jeff: If you're looking for roomy, I don't see how the IS-F is a contender. The IS-series Lexus is relatively small inside. Something like a Cadillac CTS Coupe or the Dodge Charger/Challenger would probably be more to your liking.

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Posted By tourgen

looks pretty good. the bowling stuff looks cool. we need more stuff like that. things you can't usually do with cars, but in a simulation-style game like Forza.

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Posted By chickdigger802

does every racing sim these days have to have some homage to initial D?