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Posted By RevCosmosis
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Posted By HerbieBug

I just watched Sneakers tonight and I couldn't help but notice how much Drew and Robert Redford look alike in that movie. Anyone else get that vibe?

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Drew and Robert Redford are actually the same person. Because time travel.

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Posted By Murdoc_

Whats the point of the line of sight when you can see every character outside your line of sight? Just curious if its a visual thing or if it's tied to the design in a way I'm not noticing.

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Posted By Matoyak

@herbiebug said:

Oh fuck yes! Hadn't heard of this game until now. I have been wanting someone to make Hitman: The In-Game Map: The Game for ages now. Monaco was too um, busy, i guess. Didn't have the right quiet feel to it. Hitman puzzle game was IOS only. But this! This might be it.

INSTANT SOLD. D:

Hitman Go was recently released for Android too. I found it was enjoyable but brief, so your mileage may vary.

Y'all might also find "Invisible, Inc." interesting. Early access, so if'n you're not into that, stay away, but it is an interesting game. Dunno if I'd call it "fun" yet, but it's getting there.

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Posted By ghostNPC
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Edited By Quantical

this looks too tedious sorry

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Edited By RevCosmosis

I just watched Sneakers tonight and I couldn't help but notice how much Drew and Robert Redford look alike in that movie. Anyone else get that vibe?

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Posted By aceofspudz
@relkin said:

Recently watched Sneakers. That movie holds up. Also this looks interesting.

"You know, I could've been in the NSA, but they found out my parents were married."

I'm not knocking this game's soundtrack but they probably should have just bucked up and ripped off James Horner's amazing Sneakers soundtrack.

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Posted By ArmCommander

Oh fuck yes! Hadn't heard of this game until now. I have been wanting someone to make Hitman: The In-Game Map: The Game for ages now. Monaco was too um, busy, i guess. Didn't have the right quiet feel to it. Hitman puzzle game was IOS only. But this! This might be it.

INSTANT SOLD. D:

Hitman Go was recently released for Android too. I found it was enjoyable but brief, so your mileage may vary.

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Posted By citizencoffeecake

Gameplay wise and aesthetically just not my cup of tea. I'm sure some will enjoy it though.

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Edited By Mr_Creeper

@t_wester said:

@lausebub said:

Light looks like a better hacking game than Watch_Dogs.

Also, this may be the quickest of looks since like 2009.

Nah not all QL last 45 minutes or an hour, they have made plenty of shortish videos this year.

gamerun timevideo type
Light16:08QL
Valiant Hearts: The Great War19:30QL
Sixty Second Shooter Prime17:24QL
Speed Kills18:01QL
Bounden11:50Unfinished
Krautscape19:48Unfinished
Yoshi's New Island18:34QL
Hohokum13:11QL EX
Chuck's Challenge 3D19:36QL
The Floor Is Jelly15:19QL solo
Trials Fusion15:29Unfinished
NaissanceE18:42QL solo
SNOW16:54Unfinished
Gunman Clive16:21QL

Source: qlcrew.com

I completely forgot about this site. Gonna come in super handy during work next week.

Side Note: Technically, this is the shortest Quick Look on that list.

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Posted By Relkin

Recently watched Sneakers. That movie holds up. Also this looks interesting.

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Posted By StriderNo9

Hey Quick Looks that are quick. I'm all for under 30 min videos.

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Posted By MeatSim

A dark dystopian future were everyone has turned into squares!

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Edited By IcyEyes
@dark_lord_spam said:

To me, this art style seems like something the developer would have had to absolutely commit to in order to make happen. Doesn't strike me as laziness so much as a very defined vision that you don't find appealing.

I actually feel the exact opposite about it. To me it feels like a completely undefined vision, and that's probably what bothers me the most. The box characters directly conflict with the environment art. I would also argue that deciding to make all your characters boxes doesn't take a great deal of commitment.

@bbk said:

I think "should be embarrassed" is pretty harsh, as I do generally like the look, but I do wish the characters were at least triangular. Would make it a little more obvious what direction everybody is looking in. Those vision cones seem to pop up only after you've wandered into them.

I don't think the developer should be embarrassed, just that I would be embarrassed, but that was a bit of harsh of me anyway. I got a little carried away in my rent :)

Visuals are not the most important part of a game (in most cases), but they do play a important role in enhancing or diminishing the experience and I guess I'm just more sensitive about it than most.

You also make an excellent point about a missing visual cue that seems vitally important. @rox360 Also made a good point about the environment art issues, but these are of course problems that some people would not even notice or care about.

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Posted By Pires82

Definitely gonna try this.

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Posted By Scribble

@t_wester said:

@lausebub said:

Light looks like a better hacking game than Watch_Dogs.

Also, this may be the quickest of looks since like 2009.

Nah not all QL last 45 minutes or an hour, they have made plenty of shortish videos this year.

gamerun timevideo type
Light16:08QL
Valiant Hearts: The Great War19:30QL
Sixty Second Shooter Prime17:24QL
Speed Kills18:01QL
Bounden11:50Unfinished
Krautscape19:48Unfinished
Yoshi's New Island18:34QL
Hohokum13:11QL EX
Chuck's Challenge 3D19:36QL
The Floor Is Jelly15:19QL solo
Trials Fusion15:29Unfinished
NaissanceE18:42QL solo
SNOW16:54Unfinished
Gunman Clive16:21QL

Source: qlcrew.com

Wow, first time I've seen that site. It's awesome and I am now going to disappear down a rabbit hole of the finest vintage Quick Looks.

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Edited By deathfromace

@spacecouncil said:

the "dynamic fog of light" thing brad was thinking of was from Monaco pretty sure not hotline miami

I always think it was stolen inspired from Nox but I'm not sure what game did it first.

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@icyeyes said:

I'm sorry, but the visuals are irksome. Did the developer run out of time and just decide to make every character a cube? They definitely clash with the rest of the art. I have nothing against minimalism with purpose, but this just feels like laziness. I don't think I would have the guts to release a game like this and not be embarrassed.

I think "should be embarrassed" is pretty harsh, as I do generally like the look, but I do wish the characters were at least triangular. Would make it a little more obvious what direction everybody is looking in. Those vision cones seem to pop up only after you've wandered into them.

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Posted By CornBREDX

Seems cool. I like stealth games so this should be interesting.

I like the music in this- it reminds me of Crusader No Remorse and No Regret.

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Posted By Bezieh

I'd think about this after I've played all of the other games I own that are like this.

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Posted By SebW

The greenlight page seems to say Release date TBC and the steam coming soon tab doesn't show this game coming out, and googling this game is a nightmare. How do we know it's coming out on the 14th?

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Posted By Jazz_Lafayette
@icyeyes said:

I'm sorry, but the visuals are irksome. Did the developer run out of time and just decide to make every character a cube? They definitely clash with the rest of the art. I have nothing against minimalism with purpose, but this just feels like laziness. I don't think I would have the guts to release a game like this and not be embarrassed.

To me, this art style seems like something the developer would have had to absolutely commit to in order to make happen. Doesn't strike me as laziness so much as a very defined vision that you don't find appealing.

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Posted By bybeach

I liked it.

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Posted By IcyEyes

@rox360: It's also interesting to see how the art style has changed since the first trailer.

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Is it just me or is it not strange that Team 17 is "publishing" this game through Steam Greenlight?

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Posted By marblecmoney

This game looks pretty neat. I might have to check it out.

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Posted By Wienerless_Steve

Really simple art style going on here. Still looks interesting though.

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Edited By Rox360

@icyeyes said:

I'm sorry, but the visuals are irksome. Did the developer run out of time and just decide to make every character a cube? They definitely clash with the rest of the art. I have nothing against minimalism with purpose, but this just feels like laziness. I don't think I would have the guts to release a game like this and not be embarrassed.

I agree, but in the other direction. It's not the characters that's the problem, it's the environment! Every obstacle seems to block line of sight, which is easy to make sense of in a more abstracted environment like, say, Frozen Synapse, but when I can clearly see that the character is hiding behind a coffee table or a regular chair, that gets harder to swallow. That conflict could have been solved by having a less detailed environment. Odd!

Also, the environment looks really large but the characters still feel like they move too erratically. Very curious disconnect, there.

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Posted By onkel

I approve of any video that talks Johnny Mnemonic. Man, Ice T was in that movie.

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Posted By IcyEyes

@icyeyes said:

I'm sorry, but the visuals are irksome. Did the developer run out of time and just decide to make every character a cube? They definitely clash with the rest of the art. I have nothing against minimalism with purpose, but this just feels like laziness. I don't think I would have the guts to release a game like this and not be embarrassed.

For the sake of varying opinions, I think it looks pretty great!

Most people here seem to think the same, so I'm not sure that's really a "varying opinion" :P but I'm glad not everyone agrees with me. This is just my own view, but maybe the developer is on to something...

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Posted By JimiPeppr

This seems like that Monaco game that I didn't play because of the messy-looking art but with sharp-looking art. I'd play that!

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Edited By gulinotm

Defcon is pretty awesome

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Posted By kcin

@brad@jeff Is this game gonna be a Steam release? I can't find it in the store. I know it comes out in two weeks, but often games will have Steam pages up in advance of release. Thanks!

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Posted By Castiel

Weird, but cool, to see something from Team 17 that isn't a Worms game.

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Edited By development

I watched Johnny Mnemonic because it was one of those movies people always reference. I regret that decision. Just kinda boring. The very end is dumb enough, but... yeah, it's mostly boring.

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Posted By heatDrive88

My name is Werner Brandes. My voice is my passport.

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Posted By SpaceCouncil

the "dynamic fog of light" thing brad was thinking of was from Monaco pretty sure not hotline miami

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Edited By Rasrimra

Hmm I don't mind the clean visuals at all.

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Posted By Brad

@shtinky said:

Any ETA when we'll see a Vinny/Alex Quick Look? Or is it still too early?

They're still very light on equipment, but I think they're hoping to put one together this week (don't hold them to that though).

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Posted By CitizenJP

That soundtrack tho

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Posted By Nicked

I just watched Johnny Mnemonic a few days ago! I actually do think it holds up in terms of stuff going on with the NSA/Wikileaks/Snowden/journalism in general. It also gets into 'information addiction' which in the movie becomes a disease--kind of parallels how some people can't be without their smartphones for even a day.

So yeah it's a dumb movie, but had some good ideas.

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Posted By kubqo

This looks a bit "Gunpoint-y"?

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Posted By ripelivejam

@shtinky: vinny's waiting for the trash can.

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Posted By mshaw006

Jeff sounds excited again!

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Posted By millidooms

When he put the red disguise on, the radius of the guard's view was smaller looked like.

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Posted By CptMorganCA

@icyeyes said:

I'm sorry, but the visuals are irksome. Did the developer run out of time and just decide to make every character a cube? They definitely clash with the rest of the art. I have nothing against minimalism with purpose, but this just feels like laziness. I don't think I would have the guts to release a game like this and not be embarrassed.

For the sake of varying opinions, I think it looks pretty great!

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Posted By Zefpunk

If Jeff and Brad like this they definitely should go back to Monaco. It had so much style, and that is where the dynamic light source Brad is thinking of came from.

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Posted By HerbieBug

Oh fuck yes! Hadn't heard of this game until now. I have been wanting someone to make Hitman: The In-Game Map: The Game for ages now. Monaco was too um, busy, i guess. Didn't have the right quiet feel to it. Hitman puzzle game was IOS only. But this! This might be it.

INSTANT SOLD. D:

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Edited By Beyond_Recall

Hotline Miami didn't have a dynamic light source...

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Posted By Naoiko

Wooo! New quick look!

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