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Posted By sciential

Jesus. If adults who know they're being watched act like that, what is the average DOTA player like?

It's probably some kid whose mom is yelling at him to unload the groceries. He asked for two minutes as was back in three.

Maybe the standard etiquette is that you're all expected to be jerks to each other all the time but to an outside observer it looks like zero class.

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Posted By mfyfe15

@mcfart: You didn't have to buy anything to watch those qualifier International Matches.

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Edited By SpunkyHePanda

I could have waited two minutes.

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Posted By Vitor

Laying down the jug healing ward with pugna's anti-magic globe next to you = BAD IDEA.

Also, I'm still so unreasonably happy that Brad is getting into Dota 2.

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Posted By Blannir

@sweep said:

People bitching about unpausing: If you know in advance that you're going to need a lengthy pause in the middle of the game, you shouldn't start matchmaking in the first place. Besides the fact that it's just plain rude, it's unreasonable to expect 9 other players to sit around and wait for you.

I'm perfectly happy to wait if someone disconnects or their computer crashes, or if their game is bugged somehow, but I have a lot less patience for someone who expects complete strangers to tolerate their disorganisation.

Except things can come up unexpectedly that require you to pause the game, you know like when Skype was jacked on Sunday's stream and Brad wanted to pause for a minute to try and get it working. I guess he was in the wrong too for pausing a game, the nerve of him!

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Posted By Niacine

I have played League for the last four years or so off and on. I became a premium member to learn about some Dota 2. Brad you rule thanks.

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Posted By theuselessgod

Yeah guys, unpausing = not cool. Though I understand it for a stream, I always wait when playing pubs.

And yes, this got me back into DOTA2 after swearing it off for a year (I've been playing pretty hardcore since 2003 with the first DOTA maps and then Allstars). Amazing how much you forgot, and how much you don't forget.

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Posted By Cimpy

Dick move unpausing like that you guys. You should all feel bad.

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Edited By KarlHungus01
@cypherix said:

@larrydavis said:

@mrmazz said:

Wow that was a reaaly awesome game of DOTA

now wtf is BKB mean

I thought they were saying BKV, meaning Brian K Vaughan, noted comic writer.

That ISN'T it???

Black King Bar grants magic immunity. Duration and cooldown decrease with each use. Some Ultimate abilities are able to disable through Black King Bar.

http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Black_King_Bar

:)

Even the very rare non-ultimate can disable through BKB, such as Naga Siren's Ensnare and Lone Druid's bear's Entangle. Also Skull Basher will proc a stun that goes through BKB.

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Edited By GlacialDrift

Yeah. The unpausing was pretty BM. Totally legit, but a shitty way to play.

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Posted By Matt

@larrydavis: I think it's popular but only for people who are already into comics.

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Posted By LarryDavis

@mattas you should be

I actually saw a guy in Dota with a Saga avatar, I gave him props and he said nobody else ever mentioned it. I thought it was pretty popular.

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Posted By Edmundus

That unpausing was rather petty, poor show.

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Edited By paulunga

@sweep said:

People bitching about unpausing: If you know in advance that you're going to need a lengthy pause in the middle of the game, you shouldn't start matchmaking in the first place. Besides the fact that it's just plain rude, it's unreasonable to expect 9 other players to sit around and wait for you.

I'm perfectly happy to wait if someone disconnects or their computer crashes, or if their game is bugged somehow, but I have a lot less patience for someone who expects complete strangers to tolerate their disorganisation.

Except for the reasons Brad listed where his buddies wanted a pause. That's totally fine, right? Nah, I still think that was douchey, as if you can't wait 2 minutes.

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Posted By NauticaLNaughT

I've watched 3 of these now and just loaded up steam to do the "give dota", thanks Brad?

Could we see Brad do a true public game to give viewers an idea of what others face when they don't have dota friends to get them up to speed?

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Edited By Cautionman

Yes! more dota2!

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Posted By Ronald

I've played other online games where the game lasted for an hour and the game didn't allow pausing. So seeing Dota get paused feels really weird.

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Edited By Matt

@mrmazz said:

Wow that was a reaaly awesome game of DOTA

now wtf is BKB mean

I thought they were saying BKV, meaning Brian K Vaughan, noted comic writer.

That ISN'T it???

Nope you nailed it. We're all way into Saga!

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Posted By ectoplasma

I hope those will go one for a while, if solely for the fact that it brings tons of players to the giantbomb channel on Dota2.

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Edited By Little_Shadow

@mrmazz said:

Wow that was a reaaly awesome game of DOTA

now wtf is BKB mean

I thought they were saying BKV, meaning Brian K Vaughan, noted comic writer.

That ISN'T it???

Black King Bar grants magic immunity. Duration and cooldown decrease with each use. Some Ultimate abilities are able to disable through Black King Bar. http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Black_King_Bar

:)

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Posted By Sweep

People bitching about unpausing: If you know in advance that you're going to need a lengthy pause in the middle of the game, you shouldn't start matchmaking in the first place. Besides the fact that it's just plain rude, it's unreasonable to expect 9 other players to sit around and wait for you.

I'm perfectly happy to wait if someone disconnects or their computer crashes, or if their game is bugged somehow, but I have a lot less patience for someone who expects complete strangers to tolerate their disorganisation.

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Posted By axf4ever

enjoying these videos, i think a bit more explanation would be helpful but it is still enjoyable

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Posted By eccentrix

This is the first thing to make me want to play Dota 2, you should've waited a minute or two before unpausing, even if you were streaming, and Bodega is my favorite Giant Bomb person after the production team.

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Posted By PaulieLag92

@rptrees: I think Brad was mostly doing it for the sake of the live stream, but I see your point.

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Posted By Dimsey

MOBAs don't interest me at all but damned if I don't mind watching you guys play one anyway.

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Posted By LarryDavis

@mrmazz said:

Wow that was a reaaly awesome game of DOTA

now wtf is BKB mean

I thought they were saying BKV, meaning Brian K Vaughan, noted comic writer.

That ISN'T it???

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Posted By Tr0n

@spicyrichter: I recommend coop vs. hard bots (5 human players vs. bots). You'll learn more and earn XP and items without the stress of win/loss stats.

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Edited By Blannir

Kinda happy to see the other team win after the un-pause fiasco. Good watch none the less.

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Posted By DoctorWelch

I don't think I will ever understand the appeal of spending money on pointless cosmetic items. You might as well flush money right down the toilet, especially when spending money on a dice roll for that pointless item.

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Posted By SpicyRichter

I've started playing against easy bots and I keep getting my ass handed to me. Does it ever get better?

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Edited By MachoFantastico

I'm terrible at this game, even against bots but enjoying these.

Wish they'd explain some of the lingo however a bit more often.

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Posted By Milkman

I'm really starting to love these. I still haven't played a real game against people but damn, these are fun to watch.

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Posted By Christoffer

Enjoyable match for sure. Why don't I get to see those kinds of defensive plays in pubs? As soon as you lose a rack people lays down and cry. If you're not too far behind, you have a good opportunity to turn it. High ground, damage and true sight from towers. Easy (well maybe not easy).

Guess it demands a bit of communications, though.

More of this please. Would love to see a captains mode sometimes for some deeper thoughts on hero composition.

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Edited By Siriusface

I'm enjoying these, but the un-pausing was a dickish thing to do!

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Edited By RaySpencer

That unpausing thing seemed really douchey to me, its such a long game with so little people I couldnt have hurt to wait at least 2 minutes before getting angry.

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Posted By SatelliteOfLove

Rucks announcer voice is the ONLY announcer voice, as far as I'm concerned.

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Posted By Bloopa79Aus

watching brad farm jungle with all that juicy farm pushing bottom tower

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Posted By Firecreed17

I gotta say watching these matches are pretty entertaining and I just finished installing Dota

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Edited By fishmicmuffin

@xanavi said:

@fishmicmuffin said:

Juggernaut's spin does damage to towers. He also attacks at 50% speed during the spin if memory serves. It's a useful tip for early game pushes. I didn't get to watch the entire video so I don't know if you used it in there, but it's a good thing to know!

None of this information is right. At least not anymore. Spin doesn't damage towers but jugg can attack while spinning which will damage anything that doesn't take damage from the spin. So only attacks will do damage when you spin at a tower. Your attacks aren't slowed either, he attacks at the regular rate.

Damn, guess my information is out of date. Thanks for clarifying. Sorry for the misinformation!

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Posted By OtterChaos

I'm actually able to follow some of the game play now. I've played a couple of bot matches and two losing PvP matches but as stated upthread the GB channel is very welcoming and easy going for matches, have had no bad experiences yet.

Having said that about following the game, that all goes out the window during team fights as so much is going on and I really can't figure out the timing of spells and attacks as they happen. It was fun to find this game on the DOTA2 site and sync it up with the Daily DOTA video, that way I could listen to the team chat and at the same time I could move the camera around the map and pick other players to check out as well as Brad.

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Posted By Hef

I'd just like to say I have no problem loading videos on any other play but yours. Literally every player runs fine but yours. I don't know if there's a way to make these videos private on youtube or something but probably 5 times out of 10 your player just doesn't load or restarts constantly.

It's really annoying.

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@horia said:

Unpausing like total dicks. This is so much more egregious than any mother insults you love to whine about. Also change bodega, pretty sure the majority find him annoying as shit

By majority you mean nobody than I concur

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Edited By Osaladin

@horia said:

Unpausing like total dicks. This is so much more egregious than any mother insults you love to whine about. Also change bodega, pretty sure the majority find him annoying as shit

I'm pretty sure the majority are just fine with bodega. So much hate.

This was an awesome game, you're definitely getting better Brad.

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Posted By MeatSim

All that pausing and unpausing was my favorite part.

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Edited By Horia

Unpausing like total dicks. This is so much more egregious than any mother insults you love to whine about. Also change bodega, pretty sure the majority find him annoying as shit

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Posted By xanavi

@fishmicmuffin said:

Juggernaut's spin does damage to towers. He also attacks at 50% speed during the spin if memory serves. It's a useful tip for early game pushes. I didn't get to watch the entire video so I don't know if you used it in there, but it's a good thing to know!

None of this information is right. At least not anymore. Spin doesn't damage towers but jugg can attack while spinning which will damage anything that doesn't take damage from the spin. So only attacks will do damage when you spin at a tower. Your attacks aren't slowed either, he attacks at the regular rate.

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Posted By Psychohead
@keen_12 said:

I've enjoyed these so far. I still suck at the game though.

What's harder to get into, fighting games or mobas?

"Get into" as in "play" or as in "watch streams of the competitive scene?"

On the playing front, fighting games have MOBAs beat, hands down. While the nuance of a given game takes time to figure out, their arcade roots provide them with a very literal pick-up-and-play style of gameplay. And while many fighting games are not without their eccentricities, precious few have the sort of learning cliff that Dota does.

As for following streams and the like, I honestly can't speak to what normal MOBA coverage looks like. But I can say that if you're looking to watch fighting games, I highly recommend checking out Level Up Live and/or Team Spooky. Both tend to be high quality and have regular content to consume. Also, any stream with Ultradavid and/or James Chen commentating is always super informative (and pretty classy).

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