... Mostly wrong anyway.
 
I have to admit, I haven't even gotten halfway through the game yet. I've only downed about 6-7 hours into it, but most of the negatives that game reviewers are leveling at this game are just flat out wrong. Almost to the point where I wonder if we were even playing the same game. For example, one of the things they complain about is how melee monsters are able to hit you from an extreme range, whereas you must actually get within melee range for your attacks to hit. I've never found that to be the case for me. I've have noticed that a lot of monsters have an alternate ranged attack that sometimes look like a melee attack (IE. There are these little gremlin guys that carry a giant leg bone, and they hit rocks at you like their playing baseball). There are also instances where you will run away from a monster right as they are gearing up to attack you, and when they actually swing you might be several strides away, but it's not at all how they make it sound. As if monsters just stand miles away, do a melee attack, and it magically hits you. 

The voice acting isn't the greatest in the world, but it's tolerable. Although, in my opinion, the voice acting in most Final Fantasy games have been pretty bad (especially FF10). This game is on par with those. Sometimes it's really, really bad, but most of the time it's ok enough that you don't really think about it.
 
The story has been pretty much on par with most JRPGS. This one feels a lot like FF12 so far. A lot of political intrigue and such. Not bad, but not great. I can't speak to the ending, as I haven't gotten there yet. Apparently it's a huge cliffhanger which pisses some people off. I guess you just have to decide if cliffhanger endings are something that anger you or not. If not, then you should be fine.
 
The combat is where this game really shines. It has a very tactical, somewhat MMO quality. I feel like I'm playing a mix of FF11-12. So if you liked the combat system in those games, then you'll love this game. Sometimes I get lost in just roaming around, fighting mobs, and seeing what loot I get. That type of "loot-lust" is amplified tenfold once you take this game online. It has a Phantasy Star Online feel to it. Where you can embark from your hub town, and take on a variety of quests. It's very addicting, especially if you have a reliable group of people to play with regularly.
 
But yeah, I've gotten to the point where I rarely listen to reviews anymore. I've came to the understanding that I have to just figure out for myself if I'm going to like the game or not. Especially with these lesser known titles. Sometimes JRPS, imports, and the like aren't peoples thing from the get go, and they are inevitably going to give the game a bad review just because, and then that spreads, and becomes the prevailing opinion. Which isn't fair to the game.
 
Do yourself a favor, and just try the game for a few hours. Don't listen to the reviewers in this instance. Maybe you will agree with them, but there is also a good chance that you won't.

Oops, wrong forum. I coulda swore I was in the right one. Meant to post it in the White Knight Chronicles forum... Won't let me delete it either. Sorry guys!
 
=/

Your talking about white knight chronicles right

Since you're posting in General Discussion, would it have killed you to at least mention the name of the game you're talking about?

" Err, woops. Wrong forum... That was wierd. Coulda swore I posted in the right spot... Won't let me delete it for some reason.  =/ "

" WHAT GODDAMN GAME ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT GODDAMMIT "

" @MAST:   It's a bug right now.  Everything gets put into General."

Lol Its a little difficult to post in the right forum. You mean to post in Whit Knight Chronicles forum but when you add a topic it automatically puts you in General Discussion. Next time you go to add topic where it asks you which topic you want to post in just type the name and it'll fill in the rest. 
 
Anyways, I understand what you mean. But everyone has their preferred site. My friend has X-play because Adam and Morgan have been around for awhile. I trust this site more because I know Jeff, Ryan, Vinny, and Brad know games. They know whats fun and they know what consoles to get it on. For example they said that both Dragon Age and Borderlands are PC games. I respect that.

I have turned this bug into a game. I always try to guess what forum someone meant to post in just from reading the thread title. 
 
 
I was wrong this time.

" I have turned this bug into a game. I always try to guess what forum someone meant to post in just from reading the thread title.   I was wrong this time. "

I dunno.  I saw the quick look for it and wasn't too impressed.  Though I am tired of the slow combat that JRPGs(usually)  have.  The story looks to be standard fare as well.  Save the princess and all that.   
 
Does it deviate from this at all?  Is it the "here is your overarching quest but please do this menial side quest even though it has no bearing on the main quest at all?"

moved this to the White Knight board for ya.

No, they are not "wrong", whether partially or fully.  They just have a different opinion than you do.  Reviews are for people who have yet to make up their mind about a game, but are curious.  You obviously made up your mind to buy it well before reviews came in, so the reviews are not meant for you.

" I dunno.  I saw the quick look for it and wasn't too impressed.  Though I am tired of the slow combat that JRPGs(usually)  have.  The story looks to be standard fare as well.  Save the princess and all that. "

So only one complaint you lodged is really something where you can go "no that's not correct" and the rest are you having different tastes. Game looks slow and boring to me. Rat mazes and 'real time' combat that's actually slower than turn based would be. I get sleepy just talking about it. 

The online looks really awesome about this game. When I was watching the quicklook and it got to that part, where the party members started running towards that big enemy, I thought it looked really neat.

I am also about 7 nor 8h in. Just returned to the desert town from the ruins.
The combat system is incredibly deep and quickly growing on me, although I am only very slowly finding out all the subtleties.
The online is pretty cool and I have coop'ed w/ folks that so sick damage on their combos, so I really look forward to dabbling a bit more.  
And they hinted at the next area having lots of ores so I will be able to bind better weapons.
 
What is so bad about this story and so good about Uncharted's will forever remain a mystery to me.

" No, they are not "wrong", whether partially or fully.  They just have a different opinion than you do."

"Is it the "here is your overarching quest but please do this menial side quest even though it has no bearing on the main quest at all?" "

The "unofficial" reviewers are wrong. The game is indeed only average or good.

Opinions aren't wrong.  
 
@MurderByDeath said:

" Since you're posting in General Discussion, would it have killed you to at least mention the name of the game you're talking about? "

" The "unofficial" reviewers are wrong. The game is indeed only average or good. "

" So only one complaint you lodged is really something where you can go "no that's not correct" and the rest are you having different tastes."

That thing about monsters hitting you when you're not close to them is true.  IGN's video shows it clear as day.

" That thing about monsters hitting you when you're not close to them is true.  IGN's video shows it clear as day. "

@MurderByDeath said:

" Since you're posting in General Discussion, would it have killed you to at least mention the name of the game you're talking about? "

Calm the fuck down.  There's a bug on the site causing threads posted in game-specific forums to get floated out to General Discussion.  It's been happening for quite a while now.  Like 3 days. Which is around 5 years in internet time.   

im about 3 hours in (just got the knights power) and i can already agree. i looked through the gamespot review and i got to ask just like one of my friends.. did he even PLAY the game?? he completly misses some key parts of battles (like AC) and the part on the characters. i like the characters and him (and ign) keep saying that they are laughable cause of voices but that isnt that bad really :S
 
i could go on but i would be here a while and you covored most of it..

" That thing about monsters hitting you when you're not close to them is true.  IGN's video shows it clear as day. "

" ... Mostly wrong anyway.  I have to admit, I haven't even gotten halfway through the game yet. I've only downed about 6-7 hours into it, but most of the negatives that game reviewers are leveling at this game are just flat out wrong. Almost to the point where I wonder if we were even playing the same game. For example, one of the things they complain about is how melee monsters are able to hit you from an extreme range, whereas you must actually get within melee range for your attacks to hit. I've never found that to be the case for me. I've have noticed that a lot of monsters have an alternate ranged attack that sometimes look like a melee attack (IE. There are these little gremlin guys that carry a giant leg bone, and they hit rocks at you like their playing baseball). There are also instances where you will run away from a monster right as they are gearing up to attack you, and when they actually swing you might be several strides away, but it's not at all how they make it sound. As if monsters just stand miles away, do a melee attack, and it magically hits you.  The voice acting isn't the greatest in the world, but it's tolerable. Although, in my opinion, the voice acting in most Final Fantasy games have been pretty bad (especially FF10). This game is on par with those. Sometimes it's really, really bad, but most of the time it's ok enough that you don't really think about it.  The story has been pretty much on par with most JRPGS. This one feels a lot like FF12 so far. A lot of political intrigue and such. Not bad, but not great. I can't speak to the ending, as I haven't gotten there yet. Apparently it's a huge cliffhanger which pisses some people off. I guess you just have to decide if cliffhanger endings are something that anger you or not. If not, then you should be fine.  The combat is where this game really shines. It has a very tactical, somewhat MMO quality. I feel like I'm playing a mix of FF11-12. So if you liked the combat system in those games, then you'll love this game. Sometimes I get lost in just roaming around, fighting mobs, and seeing what loot I get. That type of "loot-lust" is amplified tenfold once you take this game online. It has a Phantasy Star Online feel to it. Where you can embark from your hub town, and take on a variety of quests. It's very addicting, especially if you have a reliable group of people to play with regularly.  But yeah, I've gotten to the point where I rarely listen to reviews anymore. I've came to the understanding that I have to just figure out for myself if I'm going to like the game or not. Especially with these lesser known titles. Sometimes JRPS, imports, and the like aren't peoples thing from the get go, and they are inevitably going to give the game a bad review just because, and then that spreads, and becomes the prevailing opinion. Which isn't fair to the game. Do yourself a favor, and just try the game for a few hours. Don't listen to the reviewers in this instance. Maybe you will agree with them, but there is also a good chance that you won't. "

" @King9999 said:

" That thing about monsters hitting you when you're not close to them is true.  IGN's video shows it clear as day. "

Having finished the entire game, I can confidently say it is not true.  Enemy attacks have limited range, and that range is quite logical.  However once they "lock" onto you and begin an attack, you can't move back to a distance and doge the hit.  You can call that poor design, but it is certainly not buggy. "

" It's proven in the fact that bad reviews greatly effect the sale of a game. Which is unfortunate, because some games don't deserve half the gripes that they get."

"This.  After beating the game last night...yes the reviews are wrong and no it's not a matter of "well it's their opinion".  (Their cons are flat out wrong.)  As has been stated the enemies CAN NOT hit you from an unlimited  range.  "

" @nerdboy said:

"This.  After beating the game last night...yes the reviews are wrong and no it's not a matter of "well it's their opinion".  (Their cons are flat out wrong.)  As has been stated the enemies CAN NOT hit you from an unlimited  range.  "

So you're accusing IGN of doctoring the footage they showed that proves that it does happen? "

" @nerdboy said:

"This.  After beating the game last night...yes the reviews are wrong and no it's not a matter of "well it's their opinion".  (Their cons are flat out wrong.)  As has been stated the enemies CAN NOT hit you from an unlimited  range.  "

So you're accusing IGN of doctoring the footage they showed that proves that it does happen? "

i have to say that around the 10 hour mark, i would have mostly agreed with you. one of my big problems with the game, though, is that the game never evolves beyond that point. It's a 40-50 hour game, and at the 50 hour mark it basically felt and played the same as it did at the 10 hour mark. it never even got more challenging. in fact, it got less challenging as it went on. anyway, to see all of my issues with the game (having just finished it) you can check out the review i just posted. and like i said, i completely disagreed with the "official" reviewers as well at first... "

" @nerdboy said:

"This.  After beating the game last night...yes the reviews are wrong and no it's not a matter of "well it's their opinion".  (Their cons are flat out wrong.)  As has been stated the enemies CAN NOT hit you from an unlimited  range.  "

So you're accusing IGN of doctoring the footage they showed that proves that it does happen? "

"So you're accusing IGN of doctoring the footage they showed that proves that it does happen? "

"Yet games that get great reviews fail all the time.  I'd like you to link me to whatever study you seem to be referring to that found a direct correlation between bad reviews and bad sales, please. "

Like I said, I will definitely rent the game and play through it for a couple of hours before I really have anything to say.

" No, they don't fail all the time. You... Are... Wrong. Let that sink in for a bit. Games that get "great" reviews. Let's say 90+ on Metacritic almost always sell well. Maybe there are occasions when they don't, but the majority of the time they do. "