Hypocrisy is a wonderful thing.

Hypocrisy is a wonderful thing.

Im not sure why people hate wow. I dont play it because I know it would take my life over if i enjoyed it (giantbomb is crack as it is), but i dont hate it. 

The people in this topic express why they don't play.

Expensive shit that requires little skill but lots of time.

Why do we constantly get threads about why people hate or love popular game X nowadays? If you don't like a popular game, you don't have to play. There's no reason to try and step on people's toes by pretending your taste is the superior. Vice versa for defenders of such games. You don't even need to defend them. WoW has several million of subscribers, evidently "people" in general don't hate it. I guess it's human nature to jump on love or hate bandwagons for popular shit but whatever, give it a rest people, enjoy what you enjoy and let others enjoy what they enjoy.

Personally? I was a huge fan of the lore created in Warcraft 3, especially, and I feel that WoW pretty much took a giant crap all over it.

Another problem I have, and this extends to a lot of MMO's, is that they never feel like the same game after a while. Personally, I enjoy a little consistency, but WoW has seen it's classes nerfed and tweaked more times than Oprah's been fat and skinny. I currently play City of Heroes, and am in the beta for Champions (am I allowed to even say that? Damn NDA's.) Personally? I enjoy City of Heroes in that it feels consistant. In the time I've played it, I've never felt that one class or another of mine plays any differently then when I started. I admit I haven't played a whole lot of WoW, but I still keep up with a lot of it. (not necessarily by choice, as all 3 of the other people I live with play it off and on, as do most of my friends.) Even amongst them, the ones who play it to a greater degree than I play any one game, a few of them admit that they don't think Blizzard has done a great job keeping the game stable.

If you ask me, the only reason WoW has surpassed over every other MMO is because it had name recognition to get that initial boost, and then it spread like a virus to people who don't even play video games. It's almost like the Wii. It's cheap, it's effective, and it's simple to get into.

 It's a great online social experience, but for my money, it's just not a very stable game. And again, I liked it better when the lore wasn't assanine. (not saying the writers are bad, but the story itself has gone to hell.)

I don't hate WoW, but I found it really boring, and I tried to get into it several times.

Everquest did a lot of things better than WoW.  More reason and interest in exploring, more of a sense of danger and involvement.  EQ didn't make everything so noob friendly.  More of a sense of 'what am I going to see and do today?' in EQ.

I think the answer to this question is simple. People like to be rebels. If something turns mainstream, people like to separate themselves from it faster than 3 shakes of a lambs tail. Works the same way with music.

WoW is a great game that will only take over your life if you let it. When I first got it I played it for maybe 6-8 hours at most, but after that I played it maybe an hour or two any given day. It's not that addicting.

I don't hate WoW, but I probably won't play it again - unless for a very short amount of time. This is just because I played it for 2 years, and the grind concept has worn out on me. It's actually hard for me to find a MMO I like anymore, because most of them do the same thing and it's boring after you've had your share of it. But the experience itself is great, especially if you have some friends to play it with.
The people who hate it most likely hate it because of the grind. Some people start to hate it quicker than other people do. I picked up on it around level 40, but managed to make it to level 65 before I had enough. I just wish the MMO games would think of something better to draw someone in.

personaly i think people hate on it because its old  looks bad  and you need to shell out  £14 a mounth  and you cant really get into it now  beacuse every one is in the lich king i think it looks ok but i cant get into it coz every ones at level 50 or what ever the level cap is

I hate WoW because its popularity has led the MMO industry to set out and try to create a WoW "killer" almost every time they start a project. WoW itself is not really what I want from an MMO, and its prevelance has done nothing good for me.

I hate the people playing WoW. Of course not everyone, but more specifically the assholes, people who grief and gank, ninja loots, stuff like that.

I understand why WoW is popular, but personally I find it a very shallow and meaningless game. I also like MMO's to need interaction with the rest of the community. And strategy is often a key ingredient in RPG style play.

Co-operation is non existent,  classes are very unimaginative, and worst of all, the skill tree system locks players in to a set play style. Skil trees should not appear in an MMO. Lazy design and a method of making players purchase extra characters.

Finally (though I could rant about this for weeks), its just too ubiquitous. It's the Myspace of MMO gaming: Just because everyone does it, doesn't mean its good. Every future MMO will be adiluted WoW clone, and the genre will suffer from it.

Wow is fine, ask their 11 bazillion strong subscriber base.

People just like to whine about what is and what isn't EZ mode.

I got out of it due to lack of time to dedicate. By the time the level cap raised to 70, I was very tired of grinding Blizzard's repetative quests.

It's too casual, and I grew out of the cartoony visual style. Still a great game though, I've just moved on to bigger and more mature things. Sometimes the casual appeal attracts dumbasses.

Because at heart it's click, watch numbers appear, repeat

I liked it, but I don't play it anymore. The reason for that is because they destroyed the reason I love WoW, the lore. Plus, they cater way too much to casual people now. For people that haven't played it, as mentioned, I think they just like to be rebels. But if they had bothered to play the game when it first came out, they might have enjoyed it more. On top of that, other people are just douchebags and think that playing a specific game will remove their social life. Well all you need is commonsense to know that is not true.

WoW isnt far off mull for destroying peoples life motivations.

WoW has been for me the first and probably the last MMORG in my gaming carreer. I was crazy about it the first six or eight months, then my interest wore out. I renew my account once or twice a year, just for the old times sake, but I'm not seriously interested in it  anymore. I certainly don't hate it. On the contrary I appreciate it as very few games. Paying didn't bothered me a bit, because I think that for as long as I had fun with it, its price was fair. I had such a good time with WoW, that I think it's allmost priceless really.
Why some people hate it? Perhaps some of them might like a more "serious" and less cartoonish style of playing, but on the other hand, this alone doesn't justify all this fierce critisicm against WoW. I think that it's probably the common fear, that many people feel towards something new and influential. They are afraid that WoW can suck their lives, and turn them to WoW-junkies or something similar. My answer to this is simple: Among gamers, only people who have generally a tendency to get addicted by something, will probably stick a lot with this game. I, for instance, am also addicted to smoking, and many other  not so accepted habbits/hobbies, surely I couldn't "miss" the WoW addiction. And between these "addicted" persons ("happy gamers" I would call them myself), only those who are mentally ill by their own, perhaps might have a serious problem with the game.

WoW is a great game, but God does it fuck your life up, I raided 4 nights a week in the Burning Crusade expansion and got through Black Temple and started Sunwell before I quit, and I agree that the grind sucks for anyone that does not already have a character, although it's now about 3 times as easy to get from 1 to 70 as it was when I did it back in Burning Crusade from xp-per level nerfs and quest xp buffs.

I tried starting WoW back about a month ago, and I hit 80, maybe it's because I'm not with my awesome guild anymore, but I just can't get into it again : /

With that being said though, I'm very glad I played and the 350 or so dollars I spent on the game, expansion and monthly fee were well worth it, on my main character I had 100 days of game time ;o

Because there are guilds out there and things you need to do to progress passed a certain point in the game that require more time than employed people or people in school have.

Raids and raid scheduling are such insane bullshit. That shouldn't be one of two methods of progression, the alternative being fighting people in closed-in matches. When a game forces the player to alter the scheduling of their real-life plans to play it, there's something seriously wrong. I remember on multiple occasions when I used to play that I would have to choose on certain days to either raid with the slight off-hand chance of progression or hang out with close friends. After smartening up and realizing that I had over 70 days /played on one character, I quit the shit out of WoW.

My problem with WoW is much the same as yours, Sweep. It is simply not good value considering how much work it takes to get to the fun - and they're charging you for the privilege of working towards it too.

No thanks.

Having played WoW for two years and then getting fed  up with it, all I can say is is that it is boring as fuck the only reason why i played for as long as I did was the people I was playing with --- Thats it.

Honestly I think deep down thats why alot of people still play WoW not because there having fun (hell most people constanly complain aobut WoW while they play ) but because of the people they play with and there need to have that sense of belonging to something, you take away the people and WoW is a decent  grind fest but a half assed story driven game.

I don't hate the game perse, I just don't like the idea of MMO's to start with.  Being forced to pay to play online?  Having that gameplay mode be the only way to play the game?

It costs money to play.

That's all.

Warcraft I and II were great. III took the lore those two set and up more or less raped it's face, and then World of Warcraft came out and made sure that what was left of the lore from the first two was dead by taking it behind the shed and putting it down.

However, as a game I think it's fine.

When your new game comes out and you have to retcon more-or-less all of the lore from your first games then you have done something horribly wrong.

So many dumb arguments in these comments. Let's address some of the dumbest complaints/arguments I've read:

"You need to alter your real-life schedule to play." Yes, because you're playing with OTHER PEOPLE. If that concept doesn't appeal to you, what the fuck are you doing playing an MMO? Secondly, no, you don't, you can always PUG stuff, it's your choice.

"It takes no skill/strategy/teamplay". Flat-out wrong. I'd like to see you clear Malygos, Naxxramas, Ulduar, or really any raid without a boss tactic and some discussion on who does what, and when. Everyone needs to have their shit together in a Raid. Of course, if you didn't even GET to that part, you wouldn't know this. It would be fair to say that it doesn't take any real strategy to GET to that point, though.

"Requires a ton of time". Not true at all. Leveling speed has been increased severely from level 1-70, so yeah, it takes some time compared to offline games, but it's fast compared to other MMOs. Also, raid requirements have relaxed thusly that gearing up for them isn't a sheer wall to climb or a full-time job anymore. Getting entry-level epix that will suffice for pretty much all 10-man content is quite easy nowadays. Of course, the game ENCOURAGES you to spend a lot of time on it, with daily quests and whatnot, of course. But that's what keeps many people hooked.

That's all for now. Seriously people, try a little harder. You may not like it, it may not be for you, totally fine. Don't go making up dumb shit because WOW killed your dog, ruined your life and raped your mother.

cause it wastes time, it consumes your life.  Its the only thing my brother does when he comes home from college and i hate it

see this is what i mean. WoW is like Marmite, You either love it or hate it. Sometimes at the same time.

It's also weird how people resent world of warcraft because of the effect it has on other people. I think that says a lot...

@Jensonb: of course they are, but a lot of people said shit that's just flat-out untrue. Did you even read my post? You don't have to like WoW, duh, but don't make up dumb shit.

I'm a former WoW player; liked it but started to think that the shortcomings were breaking even with the benefits. I like to think I'm pretty close to having a neutral opinion on WoW. 

People don't hate it, they just seem to envy it. At least that's what I think, when I ask why people don't like it ( even if they haven't played it) they always say something like "it's a shitty game with 11 million thousand morons playing it".
They don't really know what to say, because they have never played it. It's a social thing, kind of a society taboo.
I played it allot, ( I don't play anymore though) and it is an extremely well designed game, that is why it can be so addictive.
Then, most people that quit always say something like "that game sucks BECAUSE it takes your life away". Seriously...what the hell? A game sucks because it is addictive? Where is the logic in that? If it can hook you up then it's because it is actually GOOD! If you play too much, or if you don't have the time to devote to that game, sorry but that is your problem, not the game.

Although I got tired of it, it is definitly a great game, and one of the best games I ever played!

Hmmm, with hingsight, there was definitely too much vitriol in my first comment, and I apologize. Guess I should've taken a step back =\