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    The Xbox 360 is the second game console produced by Microsoft Corporation and is the successor to the original Xbox.

    MS Bans 1 million XBL users and their consoles

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    #1  Edited By Cheapoz

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33866696/ns/technology_and_science-games/  
     
    Fantastic. Screw the cheaters/hackers. 

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    #2  Edited By natetodamax

    LOL!

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    #3  Edited By jakob187

    LAWL  Stupid pirates.

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    #6  Edited By natetodamax
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    #7  Edited By Cheapoz

    Didn't realise this forum didn't automatically pass URLs into links. 
     
    Discussion back on topic now.

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    #8  Edited By Geno

    Wow didn't know there were so many pirates on consoles. 

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    #9  Edited By beargirl1

    owned 

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    #10  Edited By Diamond
    @Geno: Yea, surprising to me too.  I guess these are real confirmed numbers too.  'Were' being the key word here.
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    #11  Edited By Dany

    That is 400,000 more then i expected of any game. Just astounding!

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    #12  Edited By maxszy
    @Webby: Hahaha. OH I love it. He complains about getting, says he doesn't know when then at the end freely admits he paid money to get it chipped and pirated about 40 games. Oh man.
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    #13  Edited By Fbomb

    Wow. That's a lot of smug pirates who said Microsoft was all talk a week ago.

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    #14  Edited By JJWeatherman
    @Geno said:
    " Wow didn't know there were so many pirates on consoles.  "
    Yeah, that's kinda crazy. that's 1/20 of all live users according to that article.
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    #15  Edited By RHCPfan24

    Very nice. But, wow, that is 1/20 of Xbox Live users practically. 1 million fucking people. Damn, well, cheating never prevails.

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    #16  Edited By Cube

    Hahahah, tools.

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    #17  Edited By VWGTI

    Aaaaaaahahahahahahaa!
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    #18  Edited By Cheapoz

    1,000,000 x $10/month = $10,000,000/month MS just deprived themselves of. 
     
    They're taking piracy seriously, do you believe it now?

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    #19  Edited By Diamond
    @Cheapoz said:

    1,000,000 x $10/month = $10,000,000/month MS just deprived themselves of.  They're taking piracy seriously, do you believe it now?

    Actually more like 1,000,000 x $300 per new Xbox 360 sold + all the paid DLC the pirates can no longer use that MS gets.  Oh yea, and some of those pirates will probably say 'screw it' and start buying games legit.
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    #20  Edited By RoyaleWifCheese

    That's about as funny as when StripClubDJ had his erroneous Gamerscore reset to zero. Anyone remember that or is that just me?

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    #21  Edited By brukaoru

    Hopefully this doesn't affect too many people who bought their consoles second-handedly though legitimate means. Otherwise, a very bold move from Microsoft and hopefully it will stop many people from pirating games again.

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    #22  Edited By Adamantium
    @AjayRaz said:
    " owned  "
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    #23  Edited By MasturbatingBear
    @RoyaleWifCheese said:

    " That's about as funny as when StripClubDJ had his erroneous Gamerscore reset to zero. Anyone remember that or is that just me? "


    I remember that. Although I got nothing against pirates. 
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    #24  Edited By JJOR64

    Good.  Fuck pirates.

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    #25  Edited By iam3green

    ha that is great. one million people is a lot of consoles. $300 (average of the consoles) * 1,000,000= $300,000,000  + DLC  of money. that is a lot of people still. i kind of hope that people still pirate just so people will stop making PC piracy so bad. piracy is bad but  360 is even worse seeing as it is a console.

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    #26  Edited By pause422

    Hilarious news. Glad to hear it, it gave me a good laugh.

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    #27  Edited By Th3_James

    HOLY SHIT
     
    1 million users......god damn
     
    I wasn't aware that 360 piracy was that widespread. like that is insane to think of 1 million useless 360's possibly being sold to stores...or whatever...but damn, i really didnt think there were that many 360 pirates

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    #28  Edited By Brendan

    Fuck pirates, go developer money to make great games.
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    #29  Edited By Fbomb

    apparently, this is a possible source for the reported numbers... which isn't super-reliable.

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    #30  Edited By Th3_James
    @iam3green said:
    " ha that is great. one million people is a lot of consoles. $300 (average of the consoles) * 1,000,000= $300,000,000  + DLC  of money. that is a lot of people still. i kind of hope that people still pirate just so people will stop making PC piracy so bad. piracy is bad but  360 is even worse seeing as it is a console. "
    MS has gotten enough money out of me, and i don't pirate :P
     Launch console
    replacement console- warranty expired - RROD
    purchased other 360 - GPU failure - warranty expired........5 days before it failed
    now i just got an arcade on monday, because after xclamp fixing my gpu failure console numerous times it just died
     
    i reallly really hope my new console doesn't fuck up....i am getting sick of this
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    #31  Edited By wrecks

    justice.

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    #32  Edited By TheKidNixon

    My general manager was one of the ones who got his console banned. To clear one thing up, this isn't a ban of the Gamertag but a ban on the console itself, if Microsoft suspects its been modded to play pirated games. In my boss's case, his 360 broke. He sent it in for repair, and about three weeks after they go it they informed him that he was in fact going to have that console banned from Live. Granted, I believe they're sending it back to him (its his property, and technically they can't prove with just the hardware he's actually pirated anything) so he could just keep playing stolen games, just not online with that console.

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    #33  Edited By jos1ah

    Hey, I'm not lobbying for pirates or anything--piracy is a problem--but to call this justice is a laugh. The failure rate of the 360 had been so bad for years that it's likely EVERY SINGLE ONE of those pirates had multiple systems die on them, or their system fuck up some games they spent $60 for. Or maybe, like me, they've had 4 recharge kits die after about 2 months of normal use. Or they spent $100 on a harddrive without enough storage only to have to buy another for 100 in a year's time, or $100 on a simple wireless receiver. The list goes on and on. I hear big companies complain about piracy and preach about digital download only to release Games On Demand games for MORE than I can buy them in the store for new (many games are 30 online, but only 20 new at retail).
    Like I said, I don't advocate piracy, and don't pirate anything myself, but it's funny to read gamers cheer for big game companies as they're getting fucked in the ass themselves.
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    #34  Edited By Fbomb
    @jos1ah said:
    " Hey, I'm not lobbying for pirates or anything--piracy is a problem--but to call this justice is a laugh. The failure rate of the 360 had been so bad for years that it's likely EVERY SINGLE ONE of those pirates had multiple systems die on them, or their system fuck up some games they spent $60 for. Or maybe, like me, they've had 4 recharge kits die after about 2 months of normal use. Or they spent $100 on a harddrive without enough storage only to have to buy another for 100 in a year's time, or $100 on a simple wireless receiver. The list goes on and on. I hear big companies complain about piracy and preach about digital download only to release Games On Demand games for MORE than I can buy them in the store for new (many games are 30 online, but only 20 new at retail).Like I said, I don't advocate piracy, and don't pirate anything myself, but it's funny to read gamers cheer for big game companies as they're getting fucked in the ass themselves. "
    Both your gripe with Microsoft at large, and the justice of banning pirates from XBL, seem mutually exclusive. One doesn't justify the other.
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    #35  Edited By cstrang
    @Th3_James:  Are you playing your X360 in a sauna or something?  Damn, man.  Sorry to hear, but that's just plain bad luck.
     
    On topic:  Good.  Screw 'em.
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    #36  Edited By TwoOneFive

    did they get refunds? 
     
    lmao.  
     
    This is why PSN is free folks. 

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    #37  Edited By TheKidNixon
    @Cheapoz said:

    " 1,000,000 x $10/month = $10,000,000/month MS just deprived themselves of.  They're taking piracy seriously, do you believe it now? "

    I feel the need to point out a few issues with this math:
     
    1. No one pays 10 bucks a month for X-Box Live. I believe the highest price is 8.99, which is yes, a dollar off, but that's a difference of one million dollars a year. That's me being a stickler, but more important is...
     
    2. It isn't Gamertags that are, on the whole, being banned, but consoles. Case in point: my boss, who was banned, is borrowing a friend of ours 360 and is able to sign into his profile just fine. He's able to pay for his account, access it and transfer it to new hard drives just fine. 
     
    In fact, if you wanna get mad conspiracy theory on this, a happy accident of all this is that all the caught pirates now each have to pay a minimum of 199 dollars for a new 360 to play all the games they've bought (though I suppose because they're pirates, that might not be much.) So there you have another 199,000,000ish dollars of revenue stream this holiday cycle...
     
    But surely, that has nothing to do with this timing.
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    #38  Edited By jos1ah

    @Fbomb:  I never said those gripes justify piracy.  Gaming is not a necessity for survival so it's not like they were stealing bread and water.  The main point was that it's bizarre for me to see gamers root for this as justice.
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    #39  Edited By Diamond
    @iam3green said:
    i kind of hope that people still pirate just so people will stop making PC piracy so bad. piracy is bad but  360 is even worse seeing as it is a console.
    As bad as it is, PC piracy is far worse.  Proportionally and sales wise.  A PC game will sell less, and have a higher percentage of pirates.  Finally, MS can do something about piracy on 360, as they probably just chopped off 90% of the pirate population, forcing them to pay more money to MS (at least) to even play games.
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    #40  Edited By Fbomb
    @jos1ah said:
    " @Fbomb:  I never said those gripes justify piracy.  Gaming is not a necessity for survival so it's not like they were stealing bread and water.  The main point was that it's bizarre for me to see gamers root for this as justice. "
    Okay, point taken. I think people root for it, because they've spent $60 of their own money for each of the games they play, and yet, others out there are playing for free and rubbing it in everyone's faces. It feels like a win, when everyone has to pay the same amount for the chance to play games. I don't think many people are so much cheering for the companies' moral victory, but for the satisfaction in knowing that their purchase value isn't being diminished by people who found a way to cheat the system, pay nothing, and still get the same privileges as a paying customer.
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    #41  Edited By SonicFire
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    #42  Edited By Fbomb
    @Diamond said:
    " @iam3green said:
    i kind of hope that people still pirate just so people will stop making PC piracy so bad. piracy is bad but  360 is even worse seeing as it is a console.
    As bad as it is, PC piracy is far worse.  Proportionally and sales wise.  A PC game will sell less, and have a higher percentage of pirates.  Finally, MS can do something about piracy on 360, as they probably just chopped off 90% of the pirate population, forcing them to pay more money to MS (at least) to even play games. "
    Well... online anyway. A pirate is still able to play all of the offline games they want. It's a partial victory, anyway.
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    #43  Edited By unsolvedparadox
    @Maxszy said:
    " @Webby: Hahaha. OH I love it. He complains about getting, says he doesn't know when then at the end freely admits he paid money to get it chipped and pirated about 40 games. Oh man. "
    And his justification is that there are too many good games? 
     
    If it makes him feel any better, I'm guessing all of his fellow pirate buddies got banned too. They can all sit at home, staring at their bricked consoles in unison...
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    #44  Edited By Diamond
    @Fbomb said:
    Well... online anyway. A pirate is still able to play all of the offline games they want. It's a partial victory, anyway.
    Yea I guess that's true, if they're going to revoke DRM, not allow connection to Live, and not allow HDD installs, why not just disable the whole thing?
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    #45  Edited By Fbomb
    @Diamond said:
    " @Fbomb said:
    Well... online anyway. A pirate is still able to play all of the offline games they want. It's a partial victory, anyway.
    Yea I guess that's true, if they're going to revoke DRM, not allow connection to Live, and not allow HDD installs, why not just disable the whole thing? "
    Yeah, just silently induce RROD. :P Electronic version of lethal injection.
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    #46  Edited By Th3_James
    @SonicFire said:
    " @Webby said:
    "
    This is the best. lol 
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/technology/newsid_10000000/newsid_10002900/10002915.stm     "
    Haha, nice link... seriously, this guy steals thousands in video games and decides to play the victim?? "
    WOW.....This guys a joke. Just because there are soo many good games coming out doesn't mean that you must play them all....if you can't afford to play them all, your out of fucking luck...
     
    My friends and I exchange games alot. Its a great way to play most of the games out there, but I still end up spending alot on XBOX related shit
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    #47  Edited By crunchUK

    What i find even more amazing is that this was headline news in the metro newspaper 

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    #48  Edited By Shadow

    I knew at least one of the people effected by this.  The unapologetic way in which they pirate games...all I have to say is FUCK YEAH!

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    #49  Edited By WinterSnowblind
    @Th3_James said:

    " @SonicFire said:

    " @Webby said:
    "
    This is the best. lol 
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/technology/newsid_10000000/newsid_10002900/10002915.stm     "
    Haha, nice link... seriously, this guy steals thousands in video games and decides to play the victim?? "
    WOW.....This guys a joke. Just because there are soo many good games coming out doesn't mean that you must play them all....if you can't afford to play them all, your out of fucking luck...   My friends and I exchange games alot. Its a great way to play most of the games out there, but I still end up spending alot on XBOX related shit "
    That's hilarious.  I agree that games here are definitely too expensive, but if you can't afford to play them you can simply wait a few months and buy them when they're going cheap.  Many new games are dropped to the £20 range fairly quickly these days.  The fact he's the one feeling betrayed for stealing these games is a little sad, and the fact the BBC don't really point out that he's doing anything illegal is pretty bad as well.  I'm not sure why he thinks jumping to the PS3 is going to help the problem. 
     
    He won't get banned, but what's he going to do when he realises he can't pirate games and actually has to pay money to play them legally?
     
    @TwoOneFive said:
    " did they get refunds?  lmao.   This is why PSN is free folks.  "

    I don't understand this at all.  Would somebody who robbed from a supermarket get a refund, because they bought something from there previously?
    PSN is free, simply because they couldn't justify having to charge for it.  It's been vastly inferior to XBL up until more recently, and then only because they've copied practically every feature.
     
    That aside, if it were possible to hack the PS3, you can bet your life they'd be banning people in the same fashion.
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    #50  Edited By The_Ish

    They will simply find another way to leech off of Microsoft. 

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