Don't know why it isn't showing my first post. Must be my browser. 
 
The concept videos look too good to be true and in my experience when tech looks too good to be true- thats probably the case. Curious what your prediction is.

I think its way to early for this type of thing.  That is this topic..not Natal

In terms of what?
 
I think it will be a perfectly functional motion sensor.
In terms of the Milo thing, is that natal or more of an AI based thing?
 
And from what I've seen, yes, it'll work as to how fun or useful it'll be that's questionable, to me it seems like a high quality eye toy, and why would I ever need one of those? 
 
And on evaluation I picked C, because I think it'll work, but you'll have to compensate for certain things if it were to be used in a more practical manner. I.e. in an FPS, for commands you'd be sat down playing an FPS, but you'd have to be sat in such a way that you're able to make the movements.
 
 @Jeffsekai: There's still been a tonne of demos, maybe not of the final product, but enough to make an impression.

" I think its way to early for this type of thing.  That is this topic..not Natal "

it will work fine but not as good as advertized

" In terms of what?
 
I think it will be a perfectly functional motion sensor.
In terms of the Milo thing, is that natal or more of an AI based thing?  "

I think taking the Wii as an Idea and giving it a more powerful platform is a good idea but my biggest fear is companys getting cheap and the games that come out for it are what comes out for the Wii nonstop, shovelware.

yeah it'll work but it will be like the motion plus or balance board or wii speak 
as in being really hot for like two months and then everyone will go back to playing games normally .

" @MysteriousBob: In that case, yes it'll work. Everything shown of it in relation to that part works, obviously it's probably selected footage, and practiced events but even then, the eyetoy works for what it is and that's not the most advanced of things. "

To quote a developer from Eurogamer:
 
" Got to to toy around with some new Unreal Engine powered Natal demo's today. Surprised to see Epic go all out to support the Natal with it's engine tech, Microsoft have pretty much positioned it as the unofficial official natal game engine now.

One of the demonstrations is really awesome, it's hard to go back to playing the Gears of War games without being able to do it (can't go into details). The best example I can give is how my kids can't play mario kart on the DS because they keep trying to rotate the DS to steer, sometimes something just feels right and it becomes common sense, and after that gets inprinted into your brain it feels wrong to do it any other way.

The more I toy with it the more I think they're going to have to also refresh the joypad. They had one demo where you have a shield which you hold with your hand (just make a fist and wave it about) and it deflects projectiles etc, but the pad is neither weighted for one handed usage, or really that usable (one analogue stick cripples you somewhat in an FPS). They need to make the pad split into two or something so you can still hold it while waving imaginary shit around. Nintendo had the right idea with the nun-chuck."

" To quote a developer from Eurogamer:
 
" Got to to toy around with some new Unreal Engine powered Natal demo's today. Surprised to see Epic go all out to support the Natal with it's engine tech, Microsoft have pretty much positioned it as the unofficial official natal game engine now.

One of the demonstrations is really awesome, it's hard to go back to playing the Gears of War games without being able to do it (can't go into details). The best example I can give is how my kids can't play mario kart on the DS because they keep trying to rotate the DS to steer, sometimes something just feels right and it becomes common sense, and after that gets inprinted into your brain it feels wrong to do it any other way.

The more I toy with it the more I think they're going to have to also refresh the joypad. They had one demo where you have a shield which you hold with your hand (just make a fist and wave it about) and it deflects projectiles etc, but the pad is neither weighted for one handed usage, or really that usable (one analogue stick cripples you somewhat in an FPS). They need to make the pad split into two or something so you can still hold it while waving imaginary shit around. Nintendo had the right idea with the nun-chuck." "

" Few things rarely do "

Microsoft's New Camera is will do all right.

This kind of technology doesn't work the way it's supposed to til the tech has been out for about 5-10 years. By the time it does work correctly, the game play won't be fresh anymore because everyone will be used to the janky-ness.

" Microsoft's New Camera is will do all right. "

From impressions, it seems to work pretty well.
 
I'm guessing you will have to set it up well for best performance, especially for a device that uses a camera.

" @ThePhantomnaut said:

" Microsoft's New Camera is will do all right. "

I don't know how you can describe Natal as just a camera. 
 
XBox Live Vision is a camera. A device that can read your body movements may contain a camera or even be based around a camera but it is much more than just "a new camera". "

" @MysteriousBob said:

" @ThePhantomnaut said:

" Microsoft's New Camera is will do all right. "

I don't know how you can describe Natal as just a camera. 
 
XBox Live Vision is a camera. A device that can read your body movements may contain a camera or even be based around a camera but it is much more than just "a new camera". "

The gist of it is. Also I don't like calling it Natal as it's still in codename stage. For me it's like saying that if if Windows 7 was just called Blackcomb and everybody preferred that. "

" @ThePhantomnaut said:

" @MysteriousBob said:

" @ThePhantomnaut said:

" Microsoft's New Camera is will do all right. "

I don't know how you can describe Natal as just a camera. 
 
XBox Live Vision is a camera. A device that can read your body movements may contain a camera or even be based around a camera but it is much more than just "a new camera". "

The gist of it is. Also I don't like calling it Natal as it's still in codename stage. For me it's like saying that if if Windows 7 was just called Blackcomb and everybody preferred that. "

"Natal" is easier than "The Weird Motion Detection Thing From Microsoft That Hopes To Capitalize On The Success Of The Wii".  Did you get as pissed off when people call the Wii the Nintendo Revolution? "

I don't doubt the hardware, the hardware looks decent enough & I'm sure it'll work as advertised - but I do doubt how much support it will get from developers. And if it doesn't get support, it'll be a failure regardless of how well the hardware works.

B.

Call me paranoid...but doesn't anyone this it's a bit creepy that it has facial and voice recognition? I think this is a bit much for gaming.
Also, controllers have been the most integral parts of gaming systems since "back in the day". Until I've seen it in action and it proves me wrong, I don't plan on buying one.

i don't think it will work to how microsoft wants it. it will be decent but there could be a lot of fixes to it. i don't care to much about motion sensors to play with. i just want to play my games with a regular controller.

" @MysteriousBob said:

" @PeasForFees said:

" Few things rarely do "

What sort of statement is that? My toaster works fine. This chair I'm sitting in is fine. Care to be more specific? "

In terms of videogame peripherals "