New Achievement Animation

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#51 Posted by LiquidPrince (16859 posts) -

@theht: I've already explained why I "vastly" prefer them. I think that is a pretty big difference.

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#52 Posted by Video_Game_King (36564 posts) -

To everybody saying that the "Hold Guide" prompt is useless: who's the target audience, again?

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#53 Posted by bigjeffrey (5282 posts) -

@isomeri said:

I don't want to make a new thread for this and it might have been linked somewhere else already, but hey here's the new boot animation for Xbox One.

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DAT 1 is fan made

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#54 Edited by Sergio (3538 posts) -

@nubikal said:

The Xbox One pop-up feels too flashy to me, it kind of intrudes and draws too much attention to itself with all the animation. It could do without the whole 'hold guide for details' thing as well, you don't need to be told that every time you get an achievement.

This.

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#55 Posted by isomeri (2772 posts) -

@isomeri said:

I don't want to make a new thread for this and it might have been linked somewhere else already, but hey here's the new boot animation for Xbox One.

DAT 1 is fan made

Really? Some impressive work then. Also, why would someone make a fake boot animation? Internet you so crazy.

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#56 Edited by Nodima (1971 posts) -

I prefer trophies because of the chime noise they use, I feel like a success. I also like the tiered trophies; I get that having higher point values is essentially the same thing, but there's something about the levels of trophies that feels more distinct or binary: here, you did something we consider pretty gnarly, have a gold trophy.

That said I don't know enough people that play video games IRL to really care much about trophies and I maybe compare mine to others' two or three times a year. But I do feel really good when I get one, and I've never felt that way with achievements, at least not since trophies dropped.

As for the sum total argument, I care more about achievements game-by-game than overall score when I'm comparing. I only glance at the level before deep-diving into the games we've both played and seeing which ones we've done that the other hasn't; perhaps I feel this way because, again, I don't know many game players and the ones I do know aren't the type of person to go out of their way for trophies, so it's more like comparing play styles.

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#57 Posted by SpaceInsomniac (5953 posts) -

To everybody saying that the "Hold Guide" prompt is useless: who's the target audience, again?

In other words, the "hold guide" prompt exists so that when brain-dead football fans earn an achievement by watching the superbowl, Microsoft tech support doesn't want to have to deal with 100,000 calls asking about it.

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Yeah, I guess this was the way to go.

@nodima said:

As for the sum total argument, I care more about achievements game-by-game than overall score when I'm comparing. I only glance at the level before deep-diving into the games we've both played and seeing which ones we've done that the other hasn't; perhaps I feel this way because, again, I don't know many game players and the ones I do know aren't the type of person to go out of their way for trophies, so it's more like comparing play styles.

My favorite thing about achievements is being able to see what your friend has done in a game that you're also playing. It really helps you to be able to talk about the game without worrying about spoilers.

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#58 Posted by Video_Game_King (36564 posts) -
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#59 Edited by SpaceInsomniac (5953 posts) -

@video_game_king said:

@spaceinsomniac:

Because fuck people outside our own group!

Not quite. I think the vast majority of football fans could figure out the achievement system without specific prompts. I'm just saying that they're designing their system with the lowest common denominator in mind, and treating everyone like idiots, because of the handful of people who actually are idiots. See the video I posted on the first page for a better explanation. For another example:

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Just because people like this stupid woman exist, that doesn't mean that there should be a sign outside Burger King telling customers that they shouldn't call 911 if they're unhappy with their service.

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#60 Edited by Video_Game_King (36564 posts) -

@spaceinsomniac:

I like how his examples are of basic gameplay features that people probably wouldn't have understood without the aid of the prompt. Hindsight is 20/20. Oh, and how he's completely ignoring how video games have become far more complex over the years, thus necessitating the more explicit hand-holding that we've come to see. I've heard a non-gamer express confusion over the FPS control scheme of "left stick to move body, right stick to move head" (about verbatim). This is more than non-gamers being pants-shittingly moronic; it's about the medium not being as accessible as we'd like it to be.

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#61 Edited by ILikePopCans (939 posts) -

Not a big fan of how long the hold for details thing stays up, but I like it over all.

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#62 Posted by ValeYard (150 posts) -
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#63 Posted by sentuamessage (6 posts) -

I'm enjoying the xbox one animations there pretty cool so looking forward to them

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#64 Posted by ValeYard (150 posts) -

@sentuamessage: me too, I mean, unless the world ends in November I'm locked in for Xbox One anyway! I've never had a console launch before, although my first console was a Genesis/Megadrive! With all the GUI and network capabilities I'm sure there will be lots of interesting glitches, crashes etc. on day one.

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#65 Posted by Zaccheus (1981 posts) -

@isomeri: Ugh, really dislike the flashing. Otherwise it would be nice, fast and simple.

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#66 Posted by chick3n (7 posts) -

@video_game_king said:

To everybody saying that the "Hold Guide" prompt is useless: who's the target audience, again?

It sounds like it's because the Guide button has changed from the 360. On the 360 tapping the guide button was for opening notifications and opening the guide. On the Xbox 1 (it sounds like) it's tap to go to the dashboard, hold to open/interact with notifications and double tap to switch between the snapped app/game.

If they didn't make it clear that viewing the achievement list/opening a party/game invite/responding to a message was now hold instead of tap, no returning 360 players would've realised and would've thought it was "broken".

I've just started up a game, the "X friends have played this game recently" notification pops up, I've got an App snapped to the side, and then I hit the guide button. What am I trying to do? Go to the dashboard? Look at a list of friends that played the game recently? Open my friends list to join their party? Trying to interact with the snapped app?

Microsoft splitting the Guide button out into tap/hold/double tap is great. There's been dozens of times on my 360 where the guide button hasn't done what I wanted it to and it's always been frustrating. The Giantbomb guys have also seen it when they're livestreaming a game with notifications that keep popping up and hijacking their guide button.

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#67 Posted by ValeYard (150 posts) -

@chick3n: wow, a differentiation of tap vs. hold sounds interesting, hopefully not confusing! major nelson mentioned something about this on his recent podcast, but he said they'd taken away the complicated functionality of the guide button. I guess we'll see in a few weeks.

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#68 Edited by Slaegar (837 posts) -

@spraynardtatum said:

@mideonnviscera said:

Trophies will always be inferior, even if the achievement animation has ads.

Trophies will be inferior UNTIL the achievement animation has ads

I think we all know that day is coming. "Congratulations, you completed the tutorial! You earned 50c off a Pizza Hut stuffed crust! Just say 'Pizza Hut' in Bing!"

I'm so sorry, but I've wanted to post this for so long.

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This gem actually popped up while the Xbox One still had the always online DRM.

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#69 Edited by T0MBraider (49 posts) -

@isomeri said:

I don't want to make a new thread for this and it might have been linked somewhere else already, but hey here's the new boot animation for Xbox One.

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That won't be an accurate representation of the final dashboard, leading up to launch they tend to change/tweak the UI (and boot animations). In-fact here is a recent video showing of what is presumably the latest build of the Xbox One dashboard:

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