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@truthtellah said:

A tip: insert an image with a male butt attack as well, otherwise the thread might be closed because of not being gender equal.

Besides, yes, that's one of Peach's five butt attacks. But we must not forget that Wario and Luigi have butt attacks as well in Super Smash Bros. Brawl! This data has already been entered into the concept.

I'm not a feminist. Instead, I believe in every individual's freedom to shape their own lives however they please.

Gender stereotypes are there for a reason - not a single stereotype is made out of thin air. If certain people here can't even argue (instead just saying they're going to ignore - how conveinient) about it, I interpret that as that actually don't have anything to argue, and instead just rely of the invisible rule "gender equality" to do the job for them.

I live in Sweden, one of the most gender equal countries in the world (a lot more gender equal than the US, mind you) and I'll tell you what:

NOTHING is stopping Swedish women from doing what they want. They can take any education they want, go to work shortly after giving birth, having the father stay home with the kid all the time - nothing is impossible anymore. In school, they teach kids all about genus and gender equality. And you know what?

Men and women STILL choose different educations, different professions and women still spend more time at home with children than men do - by their own free will. Boys and girls STILL are interested in different things, in different toys etc. This despite having a whole society (media, politicians) telling them what to do - to live in "perfect" gender equality. What feminists refuse to understand is that men and women are different by nature - we look different, we're attracteded to different things and we even think different. And that's generally speaking of course - so please don't bring up the classic "but my friend isn't like that at all". Not everyone is of course, but most are.

When I get the question if I'm all for gender equality, I say no. I'm for individual freedom, not rules forcin people to live in gender equality whether they want it or not.

Feel free to add! :-D

I know. I should have a violence fetish instead, that would be so much more conveinient. But enough of that now, this thread is about butt attacks!

Didn't your mother teach you how to stay on-topic? :)

OK, it's pretty obvious that you people lock down on a certain word I wrote and take this the wrong way. I don't want to kill people. But I have felt rage when I've met people who did bad things to me, were extremely annoying or such. Also, it's natural that people won't write about openly here, because these feelings are so supressed in today's society. We're raised to be "civilized" from we're born. We learn as kids that it's wrong to fight and punch each other, even though we often do that as a response to when we don't like other kids.

Also, I've yet to see explanations WHY the characters and the gritty world of GTA is so interesting. WHY does it have to use so much drugs, theft and violence? If that doesn't matter, then why is the world of GTA full of it? And WHY are people so, as some of you described it, "fascinated" by horror movies and other violence? If you really dislike something, you don't want to watch it. There's something about it that you like. My theory about horror movies is that people want to experience excitement because the civilized world we live in is so dull that we rarely have any true excitment in it. We wake, go to work, pay ur taxes, get home and sleep. That is the standard life of many, but it has not been that way for very long if you look at the history of mankind. That's why we still have these basic instincts which shows through in various ways, either when it comes to games or when it comes to movies or other entertainment.

For example, certain TV shows about gladiators, which contains extreme violence and men doing women openly for fun, was a very popular series (forgot the name of it). Of course, you got say it became popular because it had "an interesting story and fascinating characters", but then you simplyfy it way too much as usual. WHY was the story so interesting? WHY did civilized people want to see uncivilized slaughter of people, gushes of blood and sex acts where women are used as animals? WHY was it so facinating?

Maybe it's time to step down from the high, civilized horse some of of you are sitting on, and start to think more deeply as to why the gritty world of GTA attracts you more than the civilized world of The Sims. 2001, when the Sims was new, EA estimated that 60 % of its players were girls.

http://gamestudies.org/0601/articles/paulk

When Animal Crossing: New Leaf was released in Japan, Iwata said that the game had an unusual amount of girls playing. Feminists and other people who seriously believe girls and men play the same games must not have followed studies, or noting which gender most people in the GTA or CoD que was of. Girls generally dislike violence and competition - something that men love. In Sweden and South Korea, e-sport is huge. How many girls do you see there? Almost none - it's only guys. And that's not because they lock out girls, girls are simply not interested. They have their own forums and their own communities.

You people need to think about this a lot deeper than you seem to do. It's not enough to just say it's "interesting", you must always think about WHY it's interesting. What is the founding factor that make this world or this character interesting to me? You often don't come up with answers to such questions in a minute - you have to sit down and think for a while.

Please remember to keep the discussion as non-sexual as possible (talk about violence is OK of course), or the moderators will lock it up. And even though far more women use butt attacks than men, try to keep the discussion gender equal as that will please the moderators as well. If you think this sounds like stupid hypocrisy, please use another forum to discuss this which has more open rules. Thank you for understanding.

This concept is still very new, and I'm sure there is lots more info to be filled in. By making this into a thread, I'm making more people aware of that butt attacks is now a concept. Butt attacks must NOT be confused with hip attacks - hip attacks are done with the side of the hip, butt attacks are done with the butt.

Also, it currently says Street Fighter Alpha 3 is the first game to introduce this which is wrong - I know for sure Yuri Sakazaki of Art of Fighting used butt attacks long before R. Mika, not to mention E. Honda from Super Street Fighter II (gender equality, check!). But of course, there could have been even earlier characters with butt attacks that I don't know about.

Now please fill the butt attack concept with more information! :-D

I can only write five messages a day, so this will be my last for today.

Yes, men are much more violent in nature than women. Look at the demographic for games like GTA, CoD, and other action games where there's a lot of violence. Typically, men like these games while women dislike them. I know what you're thinking now. "I'm not like that, and I know other men who aren't, either". I'm sure you do, but if you look at the big picture, a lot more males buy and enjoy vilolent games, compared to females.

Strip GTA of all its violence, and see how good it'll sell. Keep all gameplay elements intact, but remove violence as much as possible. I can guarantee you that it would sell a LOT less.

Look at videogame message boards (any). Most males, very few females. Why is that? Because females usually are active on other message boards where there are mostly females - and those message boards are not about videogames. Men and women are different. We are attracted to different things and we like to see different things. In Japan, they understand this. Over there, the debate is how to appeal to women and make products for them. In the west, the debate is about how to appeal to both men and women with the same product. Few games manage to appeal to both sexes. There are examples, but few of them. And action and sport titles, the big sellers today, are typically male oriented, because of violence and competing elements.

Look at Pokémon. One of those few games which have relatively much females playing them. Have you ever noticed what the developers are doing? They're including typical female interest such as fashion, beling able to participate with your Pokémon in fashion contests rather than battles (older Pokémon games) and having stuff like Pokémon-Amie and the boutiques in X/Y to appeal more to females. And they're succeeding on that front.

Keep GTA's gameplay intact, but rip out all violence, drugs, whores and such and replace it with cute, fluffy pink characters and bright colors. How much would it sell? A fraction of what it does now, despite having the gameplay itself intact. To just say "I think the story and characters are great" is to simplyfy it A LOT. WHY are they so interesting? WHY are they so appealing?

But what kind of characters inhabit the world of GTA? Not the most lawful bunch, right? You are simplyfying very much, saying "interesting characters". Yes, but WHY are the characters in GTA so interesting?

I don't say people are sociopats. I say that GTA lets people freely do things in a real life world that they would never (dare) to do in the real world. If people are disturbed by its content, then why do people keep playing? If people are "disturbed" by horror movies, why do they keep watching them? You're simplyfying this way too much. I don't say that everyone who plays GTA has secret murder intentions. That's not at all what I mean. I say that the world of GTA is stripped of many laws that exists in the real world, and that's why people enjoy GTA so much. It IS based on the real world, it's very gritty and very realistic.

And I don't say that people use videogames to let out their anger IRL. Never said that. Skyrim? But Skyrim takes place in a fantasy world, completely unlike GTA. You can't compare the two because of that.

I really doesn't matter what you as an individual do. Look at the demographics for GTA and the Sims. One is cearly male oriented, one is clearly female oriented - that's a fact. Then there will always be exceptions, like you for example.

Sure, but WHY is it so fun? WHAT makes it so fun?

There are lots of other games that are "fun", but they don't sell a fraction of what GTA does.