Nintendo's Next Console Won't Arrive Before April 2012, Won't Be 3D

" Skip 3d Nintendo for the console, go with things people will actually want like better online community, HD graphics, zero friend codes, less 3rd party garbageware games. "

" Can't Nintendo just tack-on 3D at a later date via a firmware update like Sony did?  I can see it not being available out of the box, but I don't see much point in excluding the possibility at some point in the future.   "

Whoah, Nintendo is leapfrogging 3D and going straight to 4D.

"Klepek servin' up a fresh batch of Grandma's cookies! "

Agreed.  :)

This sounds pretty in line with what Norm, Will, and Gary were thinking about on the Tested Podcast last week.  No 3D and after April next year.

" @DonutFever said:

" @KaosAngel said:

" It gonna be the Dreamcast. "

The Driimcast. "

I made this joke in person the other day, although it had more to do with the screen on the controller. It makes less sense when you try to say it out loud. "

" Either way I do really hope Nintendo doesn't make the online a hassle like it has been so far. "

They are wording this as if to say its confirmed, quite a poor choice of words Giantbomb. Its all rumor and speculation, lets not forget that. 

Finally!

Watch next gen MS and Sony consoles be only 3D. Nintendo's would be the only system without a blurry mess of graphics and they score money trees because us slow adapters only have shitty HD tvs. But I guess that will all change when the 3d cable adapter transition happens in 2020 ;)

Virtual reality of some sort? Either way it's great news to know we'll at least get to see something in the near future. I have a backlog of Gamecube games and there are a few Wii titles I've been dying to check out so the if there is backwards compatibility as has been rumored that would be a compelling  argument for me to pick one up. I don't really think I can own all three major consoles though? Just don't have the room!

" They are wording this as if to say its confirmed, quite a poor choice of words Giantbomb. Its all rumor and speculation, lets not forget that.  "

Not being designed for 3D is a good move in my opinion. It'll allow the console to become more widely accepted.

Literally nobody is buying 3D TV's, so this seems like the right move.

" @Tarsier:@Tarsier said:

" thanks patrick youre way better than brad nicholson "

Harsh. You can't really compare the two and they focus on two different areas of video game news. Patrick is more insider/behind the scenes news while Brad is more press release news. Plenty of  room on the site for both of them. "

Is the new console gonna have a Blu-Ray drive that can't play Blu-Ray movies, like the Wii's Non-DVD DVD drive?

" They are wording this as if to say its confirmed, quite a poor choice of words Giantbomb. Its all rumor and speculation, lets not forget that.  "

I am glad there is no 3D

" @DivineCC said:

" @Tarsier:@Tarsier said:

" thanks patrick youre way better than brad nicholson "

Harsh. You can't really compare the two and they focus on two different areas of video game news. Patrick is more insider/behind the scenes news while Brad is more press release news. Plenty of  room on the site for both of them. "

this. "

" Whoah, Nintendo is leapfrogging 3D and going straight to 4D.

GENIUS

"

Wiimcast, CALLING IT.

I'm wondering what they will call it, wii 2, the mario, the nintendo entertainment thingy

So no 3D? That's good. Take out motion controls and you just might have me.

For once I'm glad Nintendo is behind the curve - on the 3D crap I mean. They've got the 3DS, and that's more than enough.

Saying "No 3D" is really odd, moreso when you consider that 3D wasn't really even a pipe dream when the 360 and PS3 launched, and yet they are now both capable of it.  If you want to say that 3D is not a focus of your console, that' s one thing.  But to say you're not supporting it...  well now you're already one step behind consoles released five years ago.

I'm gonna wait so hard!

" It gonna be the Dreamcast. "

They should release the console on December 21 2012... at midnight.

Hmm. Sounds just like what Nintendo said about HD when the Wii came out, not enough of an audience which was the stupidest thing I have ever heard in my entire fucking life.

I don't own a 3D set, and have no intentions of buying one in the future, but it's pretty lame that Nintendo won't even support the feature at a hardware level. If Sony could offer a firmware update for support for 3D on  the PS3, which was created well before the offical 3D standard was even created, I don't see why Nintendo couldn't as well, but I also don't understand why this new console will not even ship with such support.

Well, maybe I do. Nintendo might not want to dangle carrots out to its customers to go buy a 3D TV, since that could put dollars into Sony's pockets, especially if Sony will be getting a percentage of every game sale for the new system assuming it uses BluRay.

Nintendo also probably doesn't want to step on the toes of the 3DS. If they offer Mario on a big screen in 3D AND HD at the same time,---potentially for around only 3 times the cost of a 3DS (you never know, some 3D sets might be around 750-800 dollars by next fall) then that would surely hurt 3DS sales. PLus Nintendo would have to backtrack on the whole "3D without the glasses is better" stance they have taken while trying to hype the 3DS.

Hopefully this is something that Nintendo plans to quietly implement via firmware within a couple of years, but then again the Wii never went past 480P here in 2011, even though the PS2 and XboX 1 had the occational 720P and 1080i games. It would be nice to know upfront that a new console purchase in 2012 for 300-plus dollars would offer any potentially important features that consoles released in 2005-2006 already offer.

Considering 3D is dying as a format: no surprise.

I just got HD, slow the fuck down people.

alright, good for nintendo.  I'm pretty  curious on what hardware guts they've spec'ed out for their new box.  It sounds like they're going for the generic baseline 3rd party ports, but maybe with some future-proofing?  It sounds like a bit of a gamble.  maybe they're going to do something nuts like run an Android core and allow Android tablet apps to run using a touch pad/screen on the controller?  Yeah, probably not but I can't wait to see what they do.

" Hmm. Sounds just like what Nintendo said about HD when the Wii came out, not enough of an audience which was the stupidest thing I have ever heard in my entire fucking life. "

" @robbob88 said:

" Hmm. Sounds just like what Nintendo said about HD when the Wii came out, not enough of an audience which was the stupidest thing I have ever heard in my entire fucking life. "

I don't know, makes sense to me. Why push something that hasn't yet been widely adopted? You're only punishing the consumers then for not having all the right tech in those cases. I mean, heck, the Wii lacked HD but still ended up on top this generation. I think that's proven that Nintendo knows what their doing in that regard. "

" @C_Rakestraw said:

" @robbob88 said:

" Hmm. Sounds just like what Nintendo said about HD when the Wii came out, not enough of an audience which was the stupidest thing I have ever heard in my entire fucking life. "

I don't know, makes sense to me. Why push something that hasn't yet been widely adopted? You're only punishing the consumers then for not having all the right tech in those cases. I mean, heck, the Wii lacked HD but still ended up on top this generation. I think that's proven that Nintendo knows what their doing in that regard. "

Yeah, how many people did you know with an HDTV in 2006? Because I knew like... one. Now almost everyone I know has one. It wasn't forward thinking, but it wasn't a dumb decision by Nintendo either. Saved them money in the long run and now the market is fully ready for HD. "

" @ArcLyte said:

" @DivineCC said:

" @Tarsier:@Tarsier said:

" thanks patrick youre way better than brad nicholson "

Harsh. You can't really compare the two and they focus on two different areas of video game news. Patrick is more insider/behind the scenes news while Brad is more press release news. Plenty of  room on the site for both of them. "

this. "

I appreciate the diplomatic kissassery but sometimes people are better at things than other people. Patrick's better than Brad N because its not Kotaku copypasta. "

I bet this will be subpar to the 360 and ps3. It wouldn't suprise me for a second.
If so, this is not a next generation console, it's a current gen console. Hardware wise, the Wii competes with the PS2 and Xbox.

Good, I say.

" @Wrighteous86 said:

" @C_Rakestraw said:

" @robbob88 said:

" Hmm. Sounds just like what Nintendo said about HD when the Wii came out, not enough of an audience which was the stupidest thing I have ever heard in my entire fucking life. "

I don't know, makes sense to me. Why push something that hasn't yet been widely adopted? You're only punishing the consumers then for not having all the right tech in those cases. I mean, heck, the Wii lacked HD but still ended up on top this generation. I think that's proven that Nintendo knows what their doing in that regard. "

Yeah, how many people did you know with an HDTV in 2006? Because I knew like... one. Now almost everyone I know has one. It wasn't forward thinking, but it wasn't a dumb decision by Nintendo either. Saved them money in the long run and now the market is fully ready for HD. "

Precisely. Back then high definition was still a new sort of unproven technology. 3D is currently in that same spot, hence why it's smart of Nintendo to not incorporate it yet because, for all we know, come the next console generation after the coming one, 3D might just die out again. Best to wait and see if the current incarnation of 3D is more than just a fad first, I'd think. "

You guys just don't get it. @Wrighteous86 said:

" @robbob88: Nobody said HD didn't exist. By your logic, the PS2 and Xbox were shitty consoles for not having true HD. It wasn't common for consumers to have HD televisions in 2006.

Remember when the government set up the Digital TV transition, making all television signals HD compliant?  They set that up in 2005, and had it scheduled for February 2009 because they knew the country wasn't ready yet.

The DTV Delay Act changed the mandatory analog cutoff date to June 12, although stations were permitted to cease analog transmissions before the new mandatory cutoff date. The legislation was enacted on February 4, 2009, and on February 11, 2009, President Barack Obama signed it into law. The purpose of the extension was to help the millions of households who had not been able to get their coupons and converters because demand for coupons exceeded the funding provided for in the initial bill, leaving millions on a waiting list to receive coupons. 

So, even with four years notice that they would either need to get and HDTV or and HD converter, millions of Americans still weren't ready for the switch to HD. I understand with you and your gamer friends, you all probably had widescreen HDTVs in your living room, but many people didn't, and that was only two years ago.

Now, look at what Nintendo hoped to accomplish with the Wii: they wanted it to be really cheap, really easy to use, and approachable to non-gamers and families. The same millions of non-gamers and families that didn't get their HD-shit together for 4 years as recently as 2 years ago. Just because you didn't like it, doesn't mean it didn't make good business sense. It made the system worse, but it didn't affect their success in any way... much like their (basically) lack of an online component. Up until last year, less than 3 of every 4 PS3s were connected to the internet, and the other two systems were lower than that. Go back a year or two, and that percentage drops dramatically.

Now internet and HD are expected, so now they'll be putting them in. Again, it sucks that they aren't being more forward thinking, but those were pretty smart cost-cutting choices.

"

" You guys just don't get it.  @Wrighteous86 said:

" @robbob88: Nobody said HD didn't exist. By your logic, the PS2 and Xbox were shitty consoles for not having true HD. It wasn't common for consumers to have HD televisions in 2006.

Remember when the government set up the Digital TV transition, making all television signals HD compliant?  They set that up in 2005, and had it scheduled for February 2009 because they knew the country wasn't ready yet.

The DTV Delay Act changed the mandatory analog cutoff date to June 12, although stations were permitted to cease analog transmissions before the new mandatory cutoff date. The legislation was enacted on February 4, 2009, and on February 11, 2009, President Barack Obama signed it into law. The purpose of the extension was to help the millions of households who had not been able to get their coupons and converters because demand for coupons exceeded the funding provided for in the initial bill, leaving millions on a waiting list to receive coupons. 


So, even with four years notice that they would either need to get and HDTV or and HD converter, millions of Americans still weren't ready for the switch to HD. I understand with you and your gamer friends, you all probably had widescreen HDTVs in your living room, but many people didn't, and that was only two years ago.

Now, look at what Nintendo hoped to accomplish with the Wii: they wanted it to be really cheap, really easy to use, and approachable to non-gamers and families. The same millions of non-gamers and families that didn't get their HD-shit together for 4 years as recently as 2 years ago. Just because you didn't like it, doesn't mean it didn't make good business sense. It made the system worse, but it didn't affect their success in any way... much like their (basically) lack of an online component. Up until last year, less than 3 of every 4 PS3s were connected to the internet, and the other two systems were lower than that. Go back a year or two, and that percentage drops dramatically.

Now internet and HD are expected, so now they'll be putting them in. Again, it sucks that they aren't being more forward thinking, but those were pretty smart cost-cutting choices.
"

You guys just don't get it. 
 HD is just higher resolutions. It was the next logical step in the evolution of TV. It was going to happen. And it was going to become popular in the mid to late 00's which is exactly what happened but Nintendo's Wii console was not HD ready when it should have been. Why? Because it was going to be a console for the mid to late 00's which was when HD finally became widespread. It should have AT least been HD ready because it released at a time when HD was just about to take off. There are no excuses for Nintendo not including some sort of HD output. 

And like I said earlier, 3D is just a fad. It is NOT the next LOGICAL step in the TV evolution. TV has always been a moving picture set at a certain resolution with those resolutions getting higher and higher as technology got better.

3D is just an expensive UNNECESSARY accessory.  

"

" @robbob88 said:

" You guys just don't get it.  @Wrighteous86 said:

" @robbob88: Nobody said HD didn't exist. By your logic, the PS2 and Xbox were shitty consoles for not having true HD. It wasn't common for consumers to have HD televisions in 2006.

Remember when the government set up the Digital TV transition, making all television signals HD compliant?  They set that up in 2005, and had it scheduled for February 2009 because they knew the country wasn't ready yet.

The DTV Delay Act changed the mandatory analog cutoff date to June 12, although stations were permitted to cease analog transmissions before the new mandatory cutoff date. The legislation was enacted on February 4, 2009, and on February 11, 2009, President Barack Obama signed it into law. The purpose of the extension was to help the millions of households who had not been able to get their coupons and converters because demand for coupons exceeded the funding provided for in the initial bill, leaving millions on a waiting list to receive coupons. 


So, even with four years notice that they would either need to get and HDTV or and HD converter, millions of Americans still weren't ready for the switch to HD. I understand with you and your gamer friends, you all probably had widescreen HDTVs in your living room, but many people didn't, and that was only two years ago.

Now, look at what Nintendo hoped to accomplish with the Wii: they wanted it to be really cheap, really easy to use, and approachable to non-gamers and families. The same millions of non-gamers and families that didn't get their HD-shit together for 4 years as recently as 2 years ago. Just because you didn't like it, doesn't mean it didn't make good business sense. It made the system worse, but it didn't affect their success in any way... much like their (basically) lack of an online component. Up until last year, less than 3 of every 4 PS3s were connected to the internet, and the other two systems were lower than that. Go back a year or two, and that percentage drops dramatically.

Now internet and HD are expected, so now they'll be putting them in. Again, it sucks that they aren't being more forward thinking, but those were pretty smart cost-cutting choices.
"

You guys just don't get it. 
 HD is just higher resolutions. It was the next logical step in the evolution of TV. It was going to happen. And it was going to become popular in the mid to late 00's which is exactly what happened but Nintendo's Wii console was not HD ready when it should have been. Why? Because it was going to be a console for the mid to late 00's which was when HD finally became widespread. It should have AT least been HD ready because it released at a time when HD was just about to take off. There are no excuses for Nintendo not including some sort of HD output. 

And like I said earlier, 3D is just a fad. It is NOT the next LOGICAL step in the TV evolution. TV has always been a moving picture set at a certain resolution with those resolutions getting higher and higher as technology got better.

3D is just an expensive UNNECESSARY accessory.  

"

Um... you're agreeing with me... 
The rise of HDTVs among the average consumer occurred during the lifespan of the Wii. Therefore, most people didn't have HDTVs when the Wii was released, but they do now. Nintendo knew this would be the case, and didn't want to waste money at launch on a feature that most people wouldn't be able to take advantage of, even if it was going to become mainstream in the next few years. It was a cost-cutting measure. Now that HD is mainstream, everyone will benefit from it, and thus it's practically a necessity for their next console. We agree on the facts, I was just explaining why they did what they did. Wasting money to benefit a small portion of their userbase wasn't cost-effective, and cost-effectiveness is why Nintendo is as successful and secure as it is.


I agree that 3D is probably a fad and not an inevitability like HD was, but it's not really relevant to this discussion. Nintendo knew HD would inevitably be mainstream, it just wasn't when they launched the Wii.

They hedged their bets that most people wouldn't care about HD until about the time they were ready to release a new system, and for the most part (when it comes to the average consumer and not "hardcore gamers") they were right. Now regular people are starting to get HDTVs and Blu-Ray players, so now it makes sense to release an HD console, since the technology is practically mandatory and is cheaper to produce. "

very old article , found that out on gamespot along time ago , but since then they said its capable , they just not going to put effort into their titles at the mean time ,

its up to developers to try it out , theres already 3d wii 1` games lol , -i got one of them they come with these blue and red glasses,

so saying wii u isnt 3d capabile is hores #### if the wii 1 is , then t he wii u wis more then likely capable , they just not marketing wii u as a 3d capable machine , for some reason they never did ,

also , id agree on nintendos notion about 3d gaming at least for tvs , these 3d tvs are still to expensive for the average gamer /home owner,

not a big market just yet ,3ds is a entirely different story cause its only 169,99 and no glasses required,

that as we all know got off to a slow start in it self so , itll take time for nintendo them selfs to enter fully 3d , once reg hd tvs are discontinued, and 3d tvs take their prices , that will be when nintendo probably jumps on the bandwagon

already sorta confirmed by the darksiders 2 release date , summer release is more likely ,