Them re-using perks is really going to kill the whole multiplayer for you?

Hey umm mind posting a link to the particular video, story, picture that you saw this in?

maybe they're rebalancing?

Those perks in particular are not overpowered. What was overpowered in the game was cheap ass shotguns that had a ridiculous range (though to be honest, IRL that is probably the range of a shotgun blast), commando in combination of Marathon + Lightweight and numerous of other guns. 
 
Eh. Whatever. They have to reuse a few perks.

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Hey umm mind posting a link to the particular video, story, picture that you saw this in?

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 You realize only the names are the same right?? What makes you think things are being tweaked and balanced? Seriously..

I don't think anyone truly believes that this game is gonna be balanced.  There will always be some sort of thing that can be exploited.  Reality of the game. 
 
Don't mind though.  As long as bullets still bring a dude down.  Even the ones that are running unusually fast.

Yeah, cause those were the two perks that were broken. Not One man army, commando, and scavenger pro allowing you to essentially lay unlimited claymores.
 
If you want to talk about things they should not copy from mw2, talk about the killstreaks, then you have a pretty good argument going.

"Yeah, cause those were the two perks that were broken. Not One man army, commando, and scavenger pro allowing you to essentially lay unlimited claymores.  If you want to talk about things they should not copy from mw2, talk about the killstreaks, then you have a pretty good argument going. "

" Most of these perks are the same perks from MW2. Right away I see Lightweigh and Marathon..... How is that going to balance the game? I'm starting to get second thoughts about the multiplayer. Now it looks like I'm only going to look forward to the single-player. "

Marathon is going back to only allowing you to run for extended amounts of time, not unlimited amounts of times. So although they are reusing perk names they are constantly trying to tweak and balance the perks.

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" Most of these perks are the same perks from MW2. Right away I see Lightweigh and Marathon..... How is that going to balance the game? I'm starting to get second thoughts about the multiplayer. Now it looks like I'm only going to look forward to the single-player. "

They're balanced cause everyone has access to them. What's stopping you from using Lightweight and Marathon? "

They're reorganizing the perks.  
 
So, if I were you I'd be happy that the same perks exist but in better categories. Like for instance, "quick-scoping" is a thing of the past because steady aim and sleight of hand are both in the same perk category and sleight of hand does NOT work for sniper rifles anymore. they also cut marathon to just extra running. they did not include perks like commando and stopping power either.   
 
commando is what made lightweight and marathon horrible (plus the fact that marathon was unlimited) in MW2.  without commando, you're whole whining about this is nonsense. 
 

they've done a lot of work to fix and balance what infinity ward was always too stubborn to admit to doing wrong. 

Marathon is like extreme conditioning from CoD4. It just gives you a longer sprint time, not unlimited so relax. That and they're not focusing on perks really with this game. They've changed up loadouts in pretty much every way, and from what i've seen the perks list looks fine. At least they're not taking chances by creating their own perks again and risking another commando... Perks aren't really the big focus anymore. They've taken the best perks from the last games and tried to balance them. No more quick zooming for snipers with Sleigh of hand pro, no more getting noob tube ammo from scavenger pro. I really dont have a problem with what they're doing.

i just read the perks list. holy shit Ghost / Ghost Pro seems broken. 

Marathon isn't infinite sprint any more, just longer sprinting time. Lightweight is also different, it depends on the weapon you have now. If you're using an LMG you won't be as light as if you were using an SMG. They've actually taken out most of the bitch perks like Commando, One Man Army, Stopping Power and Juggernaut. Only one they've left that I've heard people hate is Last Stand. I've never had a problem with it but I can see how people don't like it.

" i just read the perks list. holy shit Ghost / Ghost Pro seems broken.  "

Always fun when people jump to conclusions before a game is even out. 
 
Though to be honest, I never thought Marathon or Lightweight were that overpowered.

Yeah, the majority of the perks are rehashes, but they're making refinements to many of them that will hopefully make the game more balanced. 
 

• Scavenger: Only reloads ammunition and primary grenades. This means no launchers, equipment, or special grenades will be replenished, making running around with a grenade launcher or a rocket launcher a less viable tactic. Not to mention there's no One Man Army or Danger Close. 
• Ghost: Makes you invisible to spy planes (UAV) and Blackbirds (super-UAV). Killstreaks can still detect and shoot at you, so running around with the perk on will not make you near invincible to killstreaks. And in a game so focused on killstreaks, especially since MW2, I think that's a good thing.  
• Hardline: Pro version will let you re-roll the figurative care package dice once if you end up with a shitty care package reward.
• Sleight of Hand: Sleight of Hand Pro's effect (aim down sights faster) does not work on sniper class weapons, making it significantly harder to run around the map quick scoping everybody. So snipers will actually have to play like snipers. 
• Marathon: No more unlimited sprint. Just increases sprint time, just like Extreme Conditioning. 
• Second Chance: It's Last Stand, except teammates can revive downed players. This was pretty cool in WaW., so I'm glad they're bringing it back. I will say it is kind of annoying to shoot someone and then have to wait for them to finish their "down" animation before you can finish them off, but this is the case with Last Stand too. 

My name is Seth.  There are other people named Seth.  I can bet you that we are not the same thing.

" @Gamer_152: No, its the fact that I remember people kept saying this game was going to be more balanced and seeing two perks right away that helped unbalanced the game in the first place is pissing me off. I don't mind them re-using perks but having them in the order where they can be used at the same time upsets me. I thought they were going to put Marathon and Lightweight in the same perk class so they wouldn't help unbalance the game. "

They're moving perks around. 
 
You will no longer be able to have ninja and marathon. Or ninja and commando. 

In addition to slight alterations to the perks, they seem to have re-organized them as well, meaning the possible combinations have been changed. 
That's something, I guess.

It seems more balanced to me, from a glance (obviously, without playing, not much else can be said with confidence). 
Scavenger doesn't allow you to reload noobtubes/claymores. One many army doesn't exist. Danger close doesn't exist. Commando doesn't exist. I had few complaints about MW2 that weren't related to these 4 perks. 
Marathon & Lightweight were never broken to begin with. Ninja can't be combined with Marathon and Lightweight, so you can hear these people from a mile away and commando is gone. Boom, the two top perks used with Marathon and Lightweight are no longer viable. 
In addition to that, stopping power is gone, which evens the playing field for everyone in terms of gun fights. 
Killstreaks no longer count towards the next killstreak, so killstreak whoring will be toned done/require skill to acquire higher level kill streaks. 
And, the guns seem to have more recoil that in MW2, although the full extent of the guns has yet to be seen. 
Seem a lot more balanced to me, though.

not being able to refill your claymores seems pretty crappy, is that confirmed?

" not being able to refill your claymores seems pretty crappy, is that confirmed? "

If they made it so that Scavenger doesn't refill explosives, it would be absolutely fine and balanced.

Marathon is a basic perk that has been used even in the first Modern Warfare and i have no problem with that, now if they reuse danger close I'm going to be pissed

Well I hate changes :P

this thread just goes to show you can't felate everyone.

How about we wait until the game actually comes out to complain about this stuff?